Biden wants Pakistan to "do more" in Afghanistan

[Turcici Imperium]

because Pakistan and Afghanistan are not at war with each other

There is sadly no such thing as Afghanistan. It really doesnt matter even if whole UN members claim that there is such an entity, if it de-facto doesnt exist. You would go to Kabul and would make agreements with people in suit there; those agreements have no value if they wont be executed and applied in real life.

Afghanistan is bunch of different organisations with foreign supports, where some of those groups actually attack Pakistan borders, or smuggle illegal stuff. Making agreements with Kabul then hoping that things will hopefully go well for Pakistani interests is a theory that we foolishly tried in Turkey, costed thousands of lives from both civilians and military in last decade, then we stopped hoping things and started changing things on the ground to create de-facto realities for others to swallow.

Whichever path Pakistan choses, i hope she will be a lot more luckier than Turkey, we didnt have any luck so had to create our own luck.

 

[User]

Watch from 8:53

Joe Biden's full speech: US to withdraw troops from Afghanistan - CNN Video

President Joe Biden explains why he's ordering US troops to leave Afghanistan, a decision that would end the United States' longest war.

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His speech reminded me what I wrote yesterday.

All US troops to leave Afghanistan by September 11, 2021

We came there and changed the regime, instilled democracy, the beginnings of them being part of the world order. A small contingent of our troops will always be there permanently. Your anti-American dream and wishful thinking will need to be on hold. Meanwhile, enjoy living off the welfare our...

defence.pk

 

[Enigma SIG]

Can we annex the Wakhan Corridor? Wouldn't even need much firepower.

May be his administration will make an offer Pakistan cannot refuse?

F-35 ?
But seriously we don't have the cash for it. Unless we sell Jati Umra

 

[arjunk]

F-35

They will give us a castrated version of the F-35 while India will get an F-36 or something to keep the balance of power intact. It will also cause problems with China.

 

[Enigma SIG]

They will give us a castrated version of the F-35 while India will get an F-36 or something to keep the balance of power intact. It will also cause problems with China.

I don't want it anymore though. I love the J-10 but the PAF doesn't want it

 

[SD 10]

Watch from 8:53

Joe Biden's full speech: US to withdraw troops from Afghanistan - CNN Video

President Joe Biden explains why he's ordering US troops to leave Afghanistan, a decision that would end the United States' longest war.

edition.cnn.com

chal nikal

 

[SABRE]

What would pakistani friends think about the idea of a pak-army buffer zone deep into afghanistan, would that serve the security interests of pakistan?

That would aggravate the security situation. Both sides must learn to respect each other's boundaries.

 

[graphican]

Banned our 8 F-16s
blocked our AH-1Zs
release our coalition support money

If the above list is provided, still Pakistan will not permit the USA to create havoc in Afghanistan and Pakistan. It's time we finally see peace in the region.

 

[VCheng]

F-35 ?
But seriously we don't have the cash for it. Unless we sell Jati Umra

I am sure something can be worked out.

 

[koolio]

What makes this senile old fool think Pakistan would listen to him after several high profile snubs.
This man in his 100 days of office has managed to bring his country to the brink of war with Russia, is making plans to face China, has more or less ended the relationship with Turkey, ignores Pakistan, is leaving Afghanistan, has shut off Central Asia to the US (see Russia) and so on.
This has to be the worst state I have ever seen US foreign policy in, and that's saying something.
From Reagan to this! Trump WILL come back storming in 2024.

You are right Waz, Biden's foreign policies is far more dangerous than Trump. Biden's relationships with most countries is getting worse.

 

[Hakikat ve Hikmet]

Pak is indeed doing more, and this “more” will be getting exponentially “morer” with each passing day.....

 

[Rafi]

Can we annex the Wakhan Corridor? Wouldn't even need much firepower.

F-35 ?
But seriously we don't have the cash for it. Unless we sell Jati Umra

No we can't, but we can get the locals to do it, Crimea style.

 

[waz]

American Foreign Policy will stay the same and it has, this is nothing different from Trump. He wanted to leave Afghanistan and Biden is doing the same, Turkey is still in NATO last i checked so when they ain't then i'll believe their relationship has 'ended'. What brink of war are you referring to? US has backed out all the time in defending Ukraine and left it to its own devices and is bound to do the same given the language and actions currently seen. Also same thing in regards to China, Trump to Biden i haven't seen much change i'll be honest other than delaying the eventual pullouts from Europe and Afghanistan and shifting towards China.

Nope there's a difference. When Trump first spoke of the pullout the democrats said it would be a mistake, because of public perception they have been forced to stay the course the previous president chartered.

You need to look at just what has been happening with Turkey, them being in NATO is just symbolic now. They've been sanctioned, NATO members are actively working against Turkish interests the chief of those being France, and that to with the present US's administration's blessing.

With the Ukraine situation there's also change. Biden is a known Russian hater, a relic of the cold war years and has placed backing their government against Russia as a major foreign policy pledge. NATO has already reaffirmed it's unwavering support for Ukraine’s sovereignty and territorial integrity, and the Ukrainian FM now directly briefs NATO now.

NATO-Ukraine Commission addresses security situation in and around Ukraine

The NATO-Ukraine Commission met at NATO Headquarters in Brussels on Tuesday (13 April 2021) to address the security situation in and around Ukraine. Ukrainian Foreign Minister Dmytro Kuleba briefed Allies on the latest developments in the region.

www.nato.int

This is why Russia is very edgy, there's a military build up and why Putin and Biden had a rather unpleasant exchange directly on the phone. Trump actually had respect for Putin, which bought him much stick.

Readout of President Joseph R. Biden, Jr. Call with President Vladimir Putin of Russia | The White House

President Joseph R. Biden, Jr. spoke today with President Vladimir Putin of Russia. They discussed a number of regional and global issues, including the intent of the United States and Russia to pursue a strategic stability dialogue on a range of arms control and emerging security issues...

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China I'll agree with but it's become far more prominent.

 

[Hakikat ve Hikmet]

If we do anymore then Pakistan ISI will have to push Taliban into Washington DC

Unfortunately, the White Supremists have already been there! And, that too with ropes in their hands.....

 

[waz]

You are right Waz, Biden's foreign policies is far more dangerous than Trump. Biden's relationships with most countries is getting worse.

Thanks bro, even the Americans on their forums are speaking about this and they're worried.