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The Pakistan Air Force’s JF-17s have logged over 19,000 operational flight hours, talks are also underway with up to eight countries interested in the Thunder

By Bilal Khan

Alan Warnes, an aviation journalist and leading Pakistan Air Force (PAF) watcher, recently reported that the PAF’s JF-17s have logged more than 19,000 operational fight hours since the fighter’s induction into active service in 2011. There are 65 JF-17s in the PAF (allocated to three operational fighter squadrons and a training unit belonging to Combat Commanders School).

Although the dual-seat JF-17B is slated for induction by April 2017, Alan Warnes was able to learn from PAF officials that the first JF-17B will be delivered to Pakistan by December of this year.

Elsewhere, Pakistan’s Minister of Defence Production, Rana Tanveer Hussain, told Pakistani media outlets that Pakistan Aeronautical Complex (PAC) was in talks with “seven or eight” countries over the possibility of selling JF-17s. Details into which countries were not disclosed.

Comment & Analysis

It will be interesting to see how the introduction of the JF-17B will impact those talks. The dual-seat JF-17B is expected to strengthen PAC’s ability to market the Thunder to prospective buyers.

Not only will it offer a familiar means for training and converting to the JF-17, but the PAF could even market the JF-17B as a stand-alone solution. For example, the JF-17B will essentially be used as a lead-in fighter trainer (LIFT) or fighter conversion unit (FCU) platform in the PAF. PAC could market the JF-17B as a low-cost LIFT, one with a comprehensive training package involving high-fidelity simulators as well.

Alternatively, integration with a competitive targeting pod and a wide range of air-to-ground munitions (such as laser-guided bombs, missiles and rockets) and stand-off weapons (such as anti-ship cruise missiles and glide-bombs) could position the JF-17B as a low-cost attack fighter.

For air forces with limited funding and/or access to Western goods, a JF-17B strike platform could be an interesting means to both replace far less capable older jets (such as the MiG-21) as well as affordably build modern qualitative capabilities – such as precision-strike and anti-ship warfare.

In fact, packaging an end-to-end solution that includes various air-to-ground munitions could open up an opportunity for Pakistan to vertically integrate customers, and thus, open up additional opportunities for the Pakistani defence industry.

By being the primary source of the JF-17’s munitions, organizations such as Global Industrial Defence Solutions (GIDS), National Engineering and Scientific Commission (NESCOM), and Pakistan Ordnance Factories (POF) could enhance the JF-17’s value proposition as well as increase the revenue accrued from its sale. This could also be way to offset the cost of raising local production capacities for munitions, particularly expensive ones such as anti-ship missiles or new-generation air-to-air missiles.

http://quwa.org/2016/04/29/jf-17-logs-19000-operational-flight-hours/



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Not long ago I Saw the first rolled out JF-17 for the first in Green and Red :pakistan::china: back in 2007 live,now after 9 years i am seeing the 65th can't get more proud on that.
Whereas on the other side of the border :cheesy: is ready for making a squad of 4 aircraft after well......a mere 3 decades.
A difference between determination to achieve make in home and bitching about make in home,it is all clear now.
 
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The Pakistan Air Force’s JF-17s have logged over 19,000 operational flight hours, talks are also underway with up to eight countries interested in the Thunder -
Alan Warnes, an aviation journalist and leading Pakistan Air Force (PAF) watcher, recently reported that the PAF’s JF-17s have logged more than 19,000 operational fight hours since the fighter’s induction into active service in 2011. There are 65 JF-17s in the PAF (allocated to three operational fighter squadrons and a training unit belonging to Combat Commanders School).

Although the dual-seat JF-17B is slated for induction by April 2017, Alan Warnes was able to learn from PAF officials that the first JF-17B will be delivered to Pakistan by December of this year.

Elsewhere, Pakistan’s Minister of Defence Production, Rana Tanveer Hussain, told Pakistani media outlets that Pakistan Aeronautical Complex (PAC) was in talks with “seven or eight” countries over the possibility of selling JF-17s. Details into which countries were not disclosed.

Comment & Analysis

It will be interesting to see how the introduction of the JF-17B will impact those talks. The dual-seat JF-17B is expected to strengthen PAC’s ability to market the Thunder to prospective buyers.

Not only will it offer a familiar means for training and converting to the JF-17, but the PAF could even market the JF-17B as a stand-alone solution. For example, the JF-17B will essentially be used as a lead-in fighter trainer (LIFT) or fighter conversion unit (FCU) platform in the PAF. PAC could market the JF-17B as a low-cost LIFT, one with a comprehensive training package involving high-fidelity simulators as well.

Alternatively, integration with a competitive targeting pod and a wide range of air-to-ground munitions (such as laser-guided bombs, missiles and rockets) and stand-off weapons (such as anti-ship cruise missiles and glide-bombs) could position the JF-17B as a low-cost attack fighter.

For air forces with limited funding and/or access to Western goods, a JF-17B strike platform could be an interesting means to both replace far less capable older jets (such as the MiG-21) as well as affordably build modern qualitative capabilities – such as precision-strike and anti-ship warfare.

In fact, packaging an end-to-end solution that includes various air-to-ground munitions could open up an opportunity for Pakistan to vertically integrate customers, and thus, open up additional opportunities for the Pakistani defence industry.

By being the primary source of the JF-17’s munitions, organizations such as Global Industrial Defence Solutions (GIDS), National Engineering and Scientific Commission (NESCOM), and Pakistan Ordnance Factories (POF) could enhance the JF-17’s value proposition as well as increase the revenue accrued from its sale. This could also be way to offset the cost of raising local production capacities for munitions, particularly expensive ones such as anti-ship missiles or new-generation air-to-air missiles.

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can you put sniper and GBU-54 on the JF-17?

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can you put sniper and GBU-54 on the JF-17?

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Even if we can and USA allow. We should never. It only means giving Americans access to jf17 software systems. Jf17 should incorporate Turkish aselan or indigenous or Chinese targeting pod only.
 
19000 hrs are for a single JF-17 or accrued by the flights all JF17s. Anyway, seems to be some milestone so congratulations to all.
 
can you put sniper and GBU-54 on the JF-17?

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Depends on if LM gets the ok for it and we are able to allow LM to come in and look at integration processes.
As such, there is nothing in the JF-17's architecture(rather more for it) to allow ANY weapon to be integrated.


I always had wishful thinking of Northrop Grumman being involved in a JF-17 block for export by providing radar and other ancillary avionics.. After all, the story of the JF-17 began at Grumman.
 
can you put sniper and GBU-54 on the JF-17?

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As per the export license of these systems, they are only allowed for F16 platform.

JF17 is and continues to be a real success story in LCA development and deployment. This platform holds a lot of promise for PAF service and for export. Both fans and critics watch the development process closely, and a lot is said and deliberated about it online and offline. We all look forward to the continued sensation that JFT brings to the masses, and to the utility it adds to the operational commanders.
 

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