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Aik Din Geo K Saath with Maulvi Burka and his goons (Must watch).

If that's what Indians did everyday, there wouldn't be 12 million Kashmiris and 180 million muslims living in India in more peace and tranquility than your "pure land." How many muslims has your country killed? How many muslims has the actions and beliefs of the burqa aunty you are cheering for, killed?

I've already shut-up many of your country man about the crimes against humanity committed in IOK? 7,000+ rapes of my sisters in one report!!!! So don't come here and preach to me of your nations humanity! A country that gang rapes its own women on buses and streets has NO moral standards

What we do in our country is non of you business!

It is clear that you have a lot of hatred in your heart. So you may vent and screech at India all you want. But don't presume to speak for Indian muslims or women, and don't make either group your convenient tool for that purpose. Neither muslims nor women are looking to you for sympathy. If anything, we are looking at you with pity.

Actually, I'm a Sufi and all love. I don't harbor any ill any hatred for my fellow man. Dislike and hatred are two different things. I suggest you look up the definition.

Now, you're completely off your rockers! When did I speak for Indian Muslims? Irrespective of what you say, it is incumbent on the land of the pure to defend the honour, dignity of our brothers and sisters where ever they maybe. And Allah knows best.

India is also irrelevant for this thread. So take your anti India screeds elsewhere. Funny you should boast how India is irrelevant to you, and yet talk about India on a thread that is not about India, or Indian muslims, or Indian women. You have just demonstrated who is obsessed with what.

You are an Indian and came here hooting and tooting in our business. I suggest you look before your post, no mention of any Indian Muslims, etc. Then your Pal, the LYING ANJIT KUMAR starting making comments about Issues that has nothing to do with him and you.
 
LIAR! :police: You've been exposed as a LIAR! :yahoo: Your lying antics has exposed your hatred for Muslims:taz: LIAAAAAR! LIAAAAR! AJJJJJIT is a LIAAAR! :bunny:
You are a Liar and supports extremism. In this thread also you support extremists. Liar Liar Liar.

I've already shut-up many of your country man about the crimes against humanity committed in IOK? 7,000+ rapes of my sisters in one report!!!! So don't come here and preach to me of your nations humanity! A country that gang rapes its own women on buses and streets has NO moral standards

What we do in our country is non of you business!



Actually, I'm a Sufi and all love. I don't harbor any ill any hatred for my fellow man. Dislike and hatred are two different things. I suggest you look up the definition.

Now, you're completely off your rockers! When did I speak for Indian Muslims? Irrespective of what you say, it is incumbent on the land of the pure to defend the honour, dignity of our brothers and sisters where ever they maybe. And Allah knows best.



You are an Indian and came here hooting and tooting in our business. I suggest you look before your post, no mention of any Indian Muslims, etc. Then your Pal, the LYING ANJIT KUMAR starting making comments about Issues that has nothing to do with him and you.
What about you pious people who wanted Kashmir without Kashmiri Pundit men but with with their woman. You speak of muslims only and non-muslims lives have no value for you. That is why you glorify terrorists who Kill hindus. You really are a Liar terrorist sympathizer. You are one of them who likes to oppress non-muslims. Your kinds have raped Kashmiri Pundit women and make them flee from Kashmir. You are a Black Spot in the name of Islam.
 
@Azad-Kashmiri where have you been dear. You don't even know Mullah (Burqa), his intentions, his belief, background, anything. You're welcome to talk about religion etc. but not in this thread, not under his shadow. You won't be taken seriously. So please save your energies.
 
@Azad-Kashmiri where have you been dear. You don't even know Mullah (Burqa), his intentions, his belief, background, anything. You're welcome to talk about religion etc. but not in this thread, not under his shadow. You won't be taken seriously. So please save your energies.

We heard of the attack on Lal Masjid, but not what people are saying on here. What we heard was some sisters detained Chinese prostitutes and their ''clients'' did not like it and attacked the house of Allah. Like I said before, what the Molana is saying in OP footage there is nothing wrong with it Islamically and his comments are commendable. Molanda's focus on Jihad side of syllabus is strange, when compared to our daras nizami course. Never the less, Islamically it is still fine. We focus on thasawaf and how to get closer to Allah. But, hey, there are many areas of Islam that a person can specialise in. This is one of many beauties about our religion where a person can specialise in different areas.

You are a Liar and supports extremism. In this thread also you support extremists. Liar Liar Liar.


What about you pious people who wanted Kashmir without Kashmiri Pundit men but with with their woman. You speak of muslims only and non-muslims lives have no value for you. That is why you glorify terrorists who Kill hindus. You really are a Liar terrorist sympathizer. You are one of them who likes to oppress non-muslims. Your kinds have raped Kashmiri Pundit women and make them flee from Kashmir. You are a Black Spot in the name of Islam.

Ajit, when did i glorify killing of non-Muslims in Kashmir or in any other place? Telling lies, whether 10 times or 100 times won't make it true. I can never go against Islam - it is HARAM to target civilians; Muslim and non-Muslims alike.

I may well be a black spot of Islam - I never said I'm perfect!
 
We heard of the attack on Lal Masjid, but not what people are saying on here. What we heard was some sisters detained Chinese prostitutes and their ''clients'' did not like it and attacked the house of Allah. Like I said before, what the Molana is saying in OP footage there is nothing wrong with it Islamically and his comments are commendable. Molanda's focus on Jihad side of syllabus is strange, when compared to our daras nizami course. Never the less, Islamically it is still fine. We focus on thasawaf and how to get closer to Allah. But, hey, there are many areas of Islam that a person can specialise in. This is one of many beauties about our religion where a person can specialise in different areas.



Ajit, when did i glorify killing of non-Muslims in Kashmir or in any other place? Telling lies, whether 10 times or 100 times won't make it true. I can never go against Islam - it is HARAM to target civilians; Muslim and non-Muslims alike.

I may well be a black spot of Islam - I never said I'm perfect!
Just tell me what is your stance on exodus of Kashmiri Pundits in the name of Jihad, which is done by Ordinary Kashmiri Muslims. Why did you never raised against this exodus and remained silent when your compatriots are happily calling them traitors and cowards ? Have you ever asked your Maulana shab that why their mosques spew venoms against oridinary Kashmiri Pundits, who have nothing to do with Jihad or freedom ? Do you like to oppress non-muslims in the name of your religion ? Why so selective Azad ? Why ? Its because you hate anything that is non-muslim and you raise your voice only when only muslims suffered. I have yet to see your voice in support of Kashmiri Pundits. Your support for persecution of Kashmiri Pundits by ordinary Kashmiri Muslims is understandable from your silence.
 
atleast give him little respect we all are responsible for people like him become leaders we must first criticise us
How we are responsible. ...
Right or wrong ,They are just following what Quran says.

Surah At-Taubah 9:73

يَا أَيُّهَا النَّبِيُّ جَاهِدِ الْكُفَّارَ وَالْمُنَافِقِينَ وَاغْلُظْ عَلَيْهِمْ وَمَأْوَاهُمْ جَهَنَّمُ وَبِئْسَ الْمَصِيرُ


“O Prophet, make war on the unbelievers and the hypocrites and deal rigorously with them. Hell shall be their home: an evil fate”


Surah Al-baqarah ayat 146
"there is no compulsion in religion."

As there is some Peace education , it also encourages to incite violence ..
The way they broke idols is Makkah,
this is violence or not. This is open attack on other religion & their believers. Even Islam doesn't allow freedom of expression against Mohammad..Here Federal sharia courts and decisions based on Islamic constitution, they hanged many people due to blasphemy in Pakistan. It happens almost every year.
 
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How we are responsible. ...
Right or wrong ,They are just following what Quran says.

Surah At-Taubah 9:73

يَا أَيُّهَا النَّبِيُّ جَاهِدِ الْكُفَّارَ وَالْمُنَافِقِينَ وَاغْلُظْ عَلَيْهِمْ وَمَأْوَاهُمْ جَهَنَّمُ وَبِئْسَ الْمَصِيرُ


“O Prophet, make war on the unbelievers and the hypocrites and deal rigorously with them. Hell shall be their home: an evil fate”


Surah Al-baqarah ayat 146
"there is no compulsion in religion."

As there is some Peace education , it also encourages to incite violence ..
The way they broke idols is Makkah,
this is violence or not. This is open attack on other religion & their believers. Even Islam doesn't allow freedom of expression against Mohammad..Here Federal sharia courts and decisions based on Islamic constitution, they hanged many people due to blasphemy in Pakistan. It happens almost every year.

Read the as'balal nazool of the ayah! Instead of quoting verses without comprehending the reasons for the revelation.
 
We heard of the attack on Lal Masjid, but not what people are saying on here. What we heard was some sisters detained Chinese prostitutes and their ''clients'' did not like it and attacked the house of Allah. Like I said before, what the Molana is saying in OP footage there is nothing wrong with it Islamically and his comments are commendable. Molanda's focus on Jihad side of syllabus is strange, when compared to our daras nizami course. Never the less, Islamically it is still fine. We focus on thasawaf and how to get closer to Allah. But, hey, there are many areas of Islam that a person can specialise in. This is one of many beauties about our religion where a person can specialise in different areas.

What specialization? Devil comes to you with beard and cap and talking sweet, you say SubhnAllah. He holds you hand and takes you to hell, you end up saying SUBHAN ALLAH SUBHAN ALLAH. No doubt Satan misguides a knowledgeable person with knowledge and ignorant with ignorance. You are dying under the burden of your knowledge.

At least learn from Mufti Sarfraz Naimi. Who spoke against them and got Shahadah. You are continuously supporting them. Shame on you! Our fight is not against Sufis, neither their madrasas. When we say bad mullahs we mean those not you. Why do you come in the line of fire.
 
What specialization? Devil comes to you with beard and cap and talking sweet, you say SubhnAllah. He holds you hand and takes you to hell, you end up saying SUBHAN ALLAH SUBHAN ALLAH. No doubt Satan misguides a knowledgeable person with knowledge and ignorant with ignorance. You are dying under the burden of your knowledge.

At least learn from Mufti Sarfraz Naimi. Who spoke against them and got Shahadah. You are continuously supporting them. Shame on you! Our fight is not against Sufis, neither their madrasas. When we say bad mullahs we mean those not you. Why do you come in the line of fire.

Bhai! if you read my post carefully, I'm making an observation on what he said. I've NEVER heard of this Molana before. If I remember correctly from the footage, he said he wants to bring sharia in Pakistan. He never mentioned with a gun! How do I know what is in someone's heart? Like I said, i can only comment on what I hear, not what they conceal in their breast. We look at the message and not the messenger. This is husna zan! If someone says, bhai do more zikr Allah, what is wrong with that advice? Whether the person who is advising is a Jew or a Muslim, it's irrelevant. What is important is what is being said.

Now, you're attributing the qatal of Muft Naimi saab (Shaheed insha'Allah) to him? I thought it was TTP who killed him?

Hang on Bhai Jan! I don't ''support'' ANYONE who commits fasad and definitely don't support khawrij.

Ofcourse i was fooled by his sweet words of Sharia and even our Ulema Ikram would not diagree with that. Where we disagree is the methodology of bringing it? We believe in peacful way and educating the awam.

As for the ''specialisation''? This is covered in Hanafi texts like 'Fath AL-Qadir'. Just because we don't delve into it, it does not make it wrong for those who do.

And Allah knows best!
 
Now, you're attributing the qatal of Muft Naimi saab (Shaheed insha'Allah) to him? I thought it was TTP who killed him?

Hang on Bhai Jan! I don't ''support'' ANYONE who commits fasad and definitely don't support khawrij.

TTP, this mullah, other militant jihadi organizations all hail from one ideology bro. 'That' ideology is corrupt, you know better than us. So even don't assume they are in the right direction.
 
TTP, this mullah, other militant jihadi organizations all hail from one ideology bro. 'That' ideology is corrupt, you know better than us. So even don't assume they are in the right direction.

O Mere bhai jano! Ghalithi hogay hai, Allah ka wasta marfkardu. Muje nahai maloom th yer vohi lok hai. I latched onto his words about sharia and went along with it.
 
Old video but still . How funny when the journalist asked him about the Burqa incident Lmao. :omghaha:






:astagh::astagh::astagh:
they even got Osama library in there
and not sure if they gave back the capital library premises they usurped during their uprising

Azad Terrorist.
the tragedy of Pakistan
he roams free and gets praise while the COAS who ordered the raid against his violence is facing treason and murder charges
 
I saw the rest of it now. I must confess his focus on Jihad aspect is interesting as it's not a focus in Brevali Madaris curriculum. However, ISLAMICALLY he has said nothing wrong. In fact, I was hoping he or the Muftia would say something heretic to expose them. They're on the haq! Very strong Muslims with convictions.

Stop exaggerating he implied' a pistol and kalashnakof with a LICENSE. If you go to a bank, makma, all have guns for security. This is a boarding for girls and If I was a father, I would EXPECT my daughter is safe.

As you're living in the capital of the LAND OF THE PURE! You need to understand why this land is pure?

Sure, go blind in supporting these terrorists of your sect. And discount his past adventures including but not limited to spreading radicalization and extremism in the kids coming to learn in the filthy place that Red Mosque and Jamia Hafsa have been for long, converting a place of worship of God into a bunker to fight against the state and spread anarchy in the land, stockpiling weapons and gas masks to pursue a path of violence against those who disagree with their terror interpretations and the forces asking them for surrender and honoring the writ of the state, running a freak show with the stick laden and burqa clad women to put the Govt in a defensive, weak and compromising position, acting as self-employed police occupying the nearby library and kidnapping Chinese forcing them to an attire not consistent with their beliefs, firing at the forces and putting the students in harm's way by stopping them from coming out despite various extensions of the time limit with the guarantee to spare those lay down weapons and Govt's assistance provided by the state for them for their rehabilitation. You only support them because you are just another terrorists supporters with non-existent free critical thinking mind and blind following! Because there's no rational justification to support these animals.

I'm confused by them. Anyway, what we can agree is their methodology is wrong. I know when I'll ask the Mufti saab, I'll agree with him. Attacking the State only weakness us and opens us to invasion from the Mushrikoon.

And thank you for some clarification.

Alright, so now you rather thinking from the freaking mind the God gave you would rely on some Mufti's word for a matter pertaining to a factual question? This isn't a religious debate or issue, the state has all the right to deal with bastards who stockpile weapons, convert students into fighters, take law into their hands and fire at the forces when asked to surrender. Blindness level: Azad Kashmiri, boys!

O Mere bhai jano! Ghalithi hogay hai, Allah ka wasta marfkardu. Muje nahai maloom th yer vohi lok hai. I latched onto his words about sharia and went along with it.

And that's nothing surprising coming from you people! You just latch to anyone word's on religion and go along with it. Similar story to millions of terrorists sympathizers in Pakistan! Start using your own mind, will you? Even being religious is no excuse from refraining from its use.

Don't you have your own Brain?? Why don't you use it instead of relying on other Mullahs ?

Ask an opiate addict to talk sense when naloxone is being administered! :D

Come on, hell has slightly better odds of freezing over.

@Azad-Kashmiri where have you been dear. You don't even know Mullah (Burqa), his intentions, his belief, background, anything. You're welcome to talk about religion etc. but not in this thread, not under his shadow. You won't be taken seriously. So please save your energies.

Nah, not unaware, don't get confused. Just acting like one to prove that he wasn't wrong on supporting Maulana in the first place on seeing such strong opposition to these terrorists as if living under a rock when the events of Red Mosque transpired back in '07. Would you believe anyone who claims awareness of this Mullah's message but not of his actions and intentions and then taking the evasive "religion road" to get away by using the Islamic examples of not delving over the intentions of anyone? Never heard a Sufi support these animals ever, those people don't concern themselves with these messages of hatred and terror!
 
Sure, go blind in supporting these terrorists of your sect.

I've already answered this but, I'll repeat myself as you seem to be a late comer.

If you understand Islamic etiquette, you'll understand we look at the message and not the messenger. The messenger can be a non-Muslim and if he/she is advising good, then we take it. At no point did the Molanna threaten to use violence, so his message was sound Islamically. I've never heard of this Molanna before this OP.

Alright, so now you rather thinking from the freaking mind the God gave you would rely on some Mufti's word for a matter pertaining to a factual question? This isn't a religious debate or issue, the state has all the right to deal with bastards who stockpile weapons, convert students into fighters, take law into their hands and fire at the forces when asked to surrender. Blindness level: Azad Kashmiri, boys!

This question has been given enough time and answered clearly. Islam is not about EVERYONE having an unqualified opinion. In the same way a person goes to a doctor and can get a second opinion from another DOCTOR.
 

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