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according to pakistan defence-india didnt exist untill 1947.

I think Bharat as a nation state did not exist until 15th August 1947. However as a civilization of course. Indeed Indian civilization takes origin in today's Pakistan even before the Vedic times began. India takes its name from a river in today's Pakistan. Pakistanis have claim to this history as much as today's Bharat plus we have claim to the Muslim history of the Subcontinent especially concerning today's Pakistan.

There were these people called the Mauryans...
 
I think Bharat as a nation state did not exist until 15th August 1947. However as a civilization of course. Indeed Indian civilization takes origin in today's Pakistan even before the Vedic times began. India takes its name from a river in today's Pakistan. Pakistanis have claim to this history as much as today's Bharat plus we have claim to the Muslim history of the Subcontinent especially concerning today's Pakistan.

So the millons of Indian muslims and Bangladeshis don't have 'claim' to that history? Pretty rich claim considering that the power centre of Islamic states in India was never in the west but in Bengal and Delhi and Agra. The western areas were always second fiddle to them.
 
So the millons of Indian muslims and Bangladeshis don't have 'claim' to that history? Pretty rich claim considering that the power centre of Islamic states in India was never in the west but in Bengal and Delhi and Agra. The western areas were always second fiddle to them.
I did not say it was an exclusive claim.
 
India didn't exist until 15th of August 1947. Before that India was just a geography ruled by the British empire.
 
British united India and intelligently partitioned to save Hindustan from the majority Muslim areas. Had it been otherwise, civil war condition is what we can expect. India never existed historically as one country but the same(similar) culture existed all the way from Burma to Eastern Afghanistan IINM. Many cultural and racial difference exists and that was tolerated. It was like Continental Europe much more so in diversity than the former. Ofcourse, Hindutva radicals will not like this truth as they are fed with this Akhand Bharat, Hindu domination ideologies.

RSS and Hindu Maha Sabha was sitting duck when Gandhi and Subhash Chandra Bose tried independently to gain freedom from Britain. Today, RSS is Hinduism and they are hell bend on re-innovating India as a "Hindu Pakistan".
 
India didn't exist until 15th of August 1947. Before that India was just a geography ruled by the British empire.

India exists for over the past 2,500 years. Your singular claim cannot overturn that fact.
 
British united India and intelligently partitioned to save Hindustan from the majority Muslim areas. Had it been otherwise, civil war condition is what we can expect. India never existed historically as one country but the same(similar) culture existed all the way from Burma to Eastern Afghanistan IINM. Many cultural and racial difference exists and that was tolerated. It was like Continental Europe much more so in diversity than the former. Ofcourse, Hindutva radicals will not like this truth as they are fed with this Akhand Bharat, Hindu domination ideologies.

RSS and Hindu Maha Sabha was sitting duck when Gandhi and Subhash Chandra Bose tried independently to gain freedom from Britain. Today, RSS is Hinduism and they are hell bend on re-innovating India as a "Hindu Pakistan".
I have admired Subhash Chandra Bose ever since I learned about him. It is shame why he is not so well known.
 
British united India and intelligently partitioned to save Hindustan from the majority Muslim areas. Had it been otherwise, civil war condition is what we can expect. India never existed historically as one country but the same(similar) culture existed all the way from Burma to Eastern Afghanistan IINM. Many cultural and racial difference exists and that was tolerated. It was like Continental Europe much more so in diversity than the former. Ofcourse, Hindutva radicals will not like this truth as they are fed with this Akhand Bharat, Hindu domination ideologies.

RSS and Hindu Maha Sabha was sitting duck when Gandhi and Subhash Chandra Bose tried independently to gain freedom from Britain. Today, RSS is Hinduism and they are hell bend on re-innovating India as a "Hindu Pakistan".

Nope, under Chandragupta Maurya, most of the geography had been brought into one state. So the idea that this is the first time India came together as one state is false.
 
Pakistanis like me spout this nonsense due to our history. We are mainly low caste converts to Islam with some Central Asian rape blood.

Yes but you speak as if caste system does not exist in Islam, and particularly in Pakistan? Those lower-castes who converted to Islam are still considered lower castes, whereas lower-caste Hindus got equal protection of law and reservations.

Caste system among Muslims - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Othman: The Muslim caste system is worse than that of the Hindus. Surprised? :: Reader comments at Daniel Pipes

Being Muslim in India means Syeds spit on Julahas in an 'egalitarian community' - The Times of India

Islamic caste | Indian society | Britannica.com

Pakistan’s caste system: The untouchable's struggle - The Express Tribune

Caste in Pakistan: The Elephant in the Room | Red Diary

The miserable scheduled castes - Pakistan - DAWN.COM
 
before 1947 it was called Bengal, after 1947 it was called East Bengal, after One Unit it was called East Pakistan...................
read history
Difference is we chose the name Bangladesh, you chose the name Pakistan, whereas India kept the name they were given.
 
Difference is we chose the name Bangladesh, you chose the name Pakistan, whereas India kept the name they were given.

Difference is that the name India has been used for over 2,500 years. Whereas the name Pakistan and Bangladesh were invented from thin air.
 

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