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Islam didn't enter the present day subcontinent via Sindh (Mohammad bin Qasim) correcting history.

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Sindh was not the first gateway of Muslim conquests into present day Pakistan and M Bin Qasim was not its trailblazer.

In 644 AD Caliph Umar r.a dispatched an army under the command of Hakam ibn Amr for the invasion of Makkran what is now a part of pesent-day Pakistan.
By mid-644 the Battle of Rasil was fought between the forces of the Rashidun Caliphate and the Rai Kingdom near Deybal present-day Hinglaj Temple ; the Raja's forces were defeated and forced to retreat to the eastern bank of the Indus.. Umar r.a ordered his forces to consolidate their position on the western bank of the Indus River .It was further decided that Makran should be the easternmost frontier of the Islamic empire and that no further attempt should be made to extend the conquests.


During the reign of Caliph Uthman r.a, Makran broke into revolt. Uthman r.a sent his commander, Ubaidhullah ibn Ma’ mar Tamini, to re-conquer Makran and be its first governor. In 650 AD, the army under his command conquered it after a series of skirmishes. In 654 AD Abdurehman bin Samarah r.a (a sahabi ) was sent to Zaranj (present day south east Afghanistan)as governor of seestan/makran.By the time Uthman r.a reign ended most of the present day Baluchistan upto wahsistan( present day Quetta) and Kabul was being governed by Abdurehman bin samrah r.a. except Turan (pesent-day kalat/khuzdar) .

Which was conquered under Ali r.a.in 663 AD . Khuzdar/Kalat was conquered by Haris ibn Marah Abdi from local hindu shahi tribes.

It was only in 711 AD during Ummayad times Muhammad bin Qasim entered Sindh through Makran .Qassim raised forces, at Fannazbur(Panjgur) and Arman Belah (Lasbela) before conquering Debal (Karachi west). He made Mansurah his Garrison city and further went north upto Multan and then to Jehlum.

The Present day KPK and Central Punjab was only conquered later by Muslims in 1004 AD and 1008 AD respectively when Mahmud Ghaznavi (Abbasid) fought battle of Peshawar upon crossing Khyber Pass against Kabul Shahi Hindu tribes .

Most of the commanders above other than Ghanznavi were from the land of sham Thats how Baluch relate themselves to Syrians and call themselves children of Sham.
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No thanks I just left that religion

and what's so beautiful about killing and rape I thought you always say ISIS have nothing to do with islam?!!!
isis terrorist uses terrorism as strategy to provoke west into war. it gives them justification for combative jihad. they want to gain control of levant that's all. why u dragging religion into it stop looking at everything through religion lenses. heck my maternal side is christian and paternal side is muslim and they have no problem getting along with each other both religions are beautiful in their own way if leave out the fanatics
 
What you said prove that i am right

Terrorizing the infidels is part or the islamic teachings

All the Muslims dynasties in the past provoked the west for the sake of jihad so that's prove that what isis doing today the Muslims did in the past
have u ever read about the spanish inquisitions and similar pogroms against the jews in christian europe, russia. zionists carried out periodic bombings in british mandate of palestine to achieve separate jewish homeland of israel. that was terrorism too. people in medieval europe were burnt at the stake, tortured for questioning church beliefs and dogmas. u can't blame the religion for giving rise to fanatics. it arises due to literal interpretations of verses by people with vested interests. Judaism, Christianity and Islam are all beautiful religions don't abuse them because of some stupid fanatics
 
All the Muslims dynasties in the past

All dynasties were evil. There were no saints.

Having said that, interesting to note that Islamic empires never killed people on a large scale. Here's a list from Wikipedia:

85 million dead - world war 2

40 million dead - Mongol conquests (biggest genocide in history)

100 million dead - Taiping rebellion

138 million dead - colonization of the Americas

25 million dead - Qing dynasty conquering China

40 million dead - 3 kingdoms war

21 million dead - world war 1

-- and so on, the list is pretty big. There's also Hindu king Ashoka's massacre of millions of other hindus.

The only Muslim ruler I can see is Timur, but he was inspired by Genghis Khan (claimed descent from him), killed the same way as Mongols (mountains of skull) and tried to reestablish Mongol empire.

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Not saying Muslim emperors were saints or anything. But then no one was!
 
Actaully no offense to you but if you think isis is not islamic you are wrong

You can debate history and the teaching of islam with any isis member you would lose the debate

If you can deny that isis is not islamic you can deny what the early muslims did and you have to say that the islamic conquests have nothing to do with islam and what the dynasties like ummyyad,Abbasid,Seljuks,ghaznavies,ottomans ,and the mughal have nothing to do with islam because everything they did isis did in modern day​


What you said prove that i am right

Terrorizing the infidels is part or the islamic teachings

All the Muslims dynasties in the past provoked the west for the sake of jihad so that's prove that what isis doing today the Muslims did in the past

You claim your self ex-muslim but you didn't know anything about Islam. Read Quran properly to understand Islam. You can't judge religion by people but what it is written in the book. I know you can come up with lame excuses or without proper reference big talk but i am ready for your every question to be answer with proper references, if you like
 
Islam is an arab imperialism

i dont know why some people choose foreign religion

Its the will of God, a simple way of life

Our ancestors were pagans and idol worshippers and saw something pure and beautiful in the message of Islam

Millions before us have become muslims and millions after us

It will become the largest faith group in the world in the coming decades
 
This is a nice article. Proves that incursions into modern day Pakistan were also made by Rashidun caliphs. Though Islam mostly spread into the region from the time of the Ghaznavids.
 
You claim your self ex-muslim but you didn't know anything about Islam. Read Quran properly to understand Islam. You can't judge religion by people but what it is written in the book. I know you can come up with lame excuses or without proper reference big talk but i am ready for your every question to be answer with proper references, if you like
You don't need to know everything but I know enough to reject this religion

Its the will of God, a simple way of life

Our ancestors were pagans and idol worshippers and saw something pure and beautiful in the message of Islam

Millions before us have become muslims and millions after us

It will become the largest faith group in the world in the coming decades
Do you have prove of your claims

If your ancestors were pagan doesn't mean all the people who were invaded by islam were pagan
 
You don't need to know everything but I know enough to reject this religion


Do you have prove of your claims

If your ancestors were pagan doesn't mean all the people who were invaded by Islam were pagan

I feel pity for you and your knowledge. You think that you know every thing but truth is this we didn't know much and Allah give us knowledge base on our capacity. If you have any solid reason then show it us otherwise to me you will be another troll and nothing more
 

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