Can the US beat Russia in a conventional war?

deepak.chauhan2312 said:

I think US still have high support from Europe thats why It will surely win over Russia in conventional war

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then Russia will get support from China, the largest indusrial country in the world.

zzzz said:

Yeah thanks for your detailed analyze. Im sure if such military expert like you will prepare a plan of invasion US will definiantly win using 60% of its military within 30 days. The ground forces from Ukraine and Georgia with big stocks of supplied in advance toilet paper will take Moscow then move toward central Russia while elite Navy Seal group in amphibious armor assault take Vladivostok and then establish complete operational control over Siberia. In the end two groups meets! This is Blitzkrieg!

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Seems to me you know nothing about starting a war, or how to position troop on ground to poise a move, then I guess you will never see the valid of my point and only laughing at it. Because for you, Russia will just win, that because and simply because you believe that. Regardless how deposition of troop and a real time situation related to the actual thing going on.

But the end of the day, ask yourselves this question, if you believe a Russia can stand an American Assault, then why Russia do not go all the way in both Georgia and Ukraine? Instead just getting Crimea and South Ossetia and let the rest of Georgia and Ukraine goes to the west? What stop Russia from roll their tanks in those tiny "Toilet Paper" of a country as you put it when you would expect to win even an American Intervention.

I am going to stop here, you don't need to reply back to me, reading your post is simply a waste of my time.

pher said:

then Russia will get support from China, the largest indusrial country in the world.

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Good point, but why would China help either US or Russia??

If Russia do goes to war with the US in Russia soil, China would be the biggest benefactor if China stay out. I mean if I were Chinese Premier, I would just laid back and see Chinese n 1 and no 2 Competitor take out each other. Better get some popcorn and watch the show than to get involved.

Russia is too big to be defeated. US is far easier to defeat.

russia is a big country US cannot keep it..
from weapons and technology and war knowledge usa can do the job it will take long and will end blody they have to keep the moral high but I think that would be the biggest problem in a war with russia..

winning is one thing but occupy it and hold it for longer time another..

if we take just russia with usa and without sanktions and other stuff.. just the two

than US will win if they want to...

the problems are:
massiv death for both in own land for us it would be new and could shock them

jhungary said:

Good point, but why would China help either US or Russia??

If Russia do goes to war with the US in Russia soil, China would be the biggest benefactor if China stay out. I mean if I were Chinese Premier, I would just laid back and see Chinese n 1 and no 2 Competitor take out each other. Better get some popcorn and watch the show than to get involved.

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or help one side a little bit with weapons informations little support for russia could make the war longer and more longer they fight the longer china can rise up

Timur said:

russia is a big country US cannot keep it..
from weapons and technology and war knowledge usa can do the job it will take long and will end blody they have to keep the moral high but I think that would be the biggest problem in a war with russia..

winning is one thing but occupy it and hold it for longer time another..

if we take just russia with usa and without sanktions and other stuff.. just the two

than US will win if they want to...

the problems are:
massiv death for both in own land for us it would be new and could shock them


or help one side a little bit with weapons informations little support for russia could make the war longer and more longer they fight the longer china can rise up

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What you are saying sir, is exactly what I am talking about. US can and WILL win a conventional war if US wanted to, simply because they are more industrial than Russia and with more manpower and resource than Russia, if Russia cannot repel the US in a short time, and US draw the war on, then the sheer American man power and resource will win out.

I would not go ahead and say the US will occupy Russia after said war, it would probably do what they always do, find a pro-US regime and do a regime change.

Problem is, as you mentioned, it would be a LONG AND BLOODIED war, would American have the stomach to digest it is another matter altogether. There got to be a reason for American to total mobilisation and right now I don't see a reason. And the moral aspect is the major obstacle if a war like that would ever happened.

As for the Chinese intervention. I can, most certainly, say that China would almost certain to play both side, so the Chinese will supply weapon to both side and information to both side just to speed up the destruction of Russia and damage to America.

Then American will have NOTHING LEFT to challenge China and Russia would most likely depend on China forsurvival, Chinese would kill 2 birds with half a stone.

iajdani said:

Russia is too big to be defeated. US is far easier to defeat.

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huh?
there is a reason US navy is the most powerful in the world.
Russia doesn't even have the power to reach US

pher said:

then Russia will get support from China, the largest indusrial country in the world.

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you think but China will not fight Russian war.Why will China want to go against USA and whole Europe No not convinced. China have good relation with Europe and they are rival of US but their relation is not bad enough to fight.Russia is already failing but why China would want to fail with it.

Azeri440 said:

huh?
there is a reason US navy is the most powerful in the world.
Russia doesn't even have the power to reach US

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They have nuclear subs with some missile power(Bulava SLBM),so they could reach the US if they wanted.

T-123456 said:

They have nuclear subs with some missile power(Bulava SLBM),so they could reach the US if they wanted.

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Its about conventional war........in nuclear war both will destroy themselves and the world.

he-man said:

Its about conventional war........in nuclear war both will destroy themselves and the world.

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I was thinking about a conventional war,you can change the warhead of the missile cant you?

T-123456 said:

I was thinking about a conventional war,you can change the warhead of the missile cant you?

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No u cannot.Its not practical and neither will it have similar impact.
Most of russian missiles are already in canisters and sealed so its near impossible.

deepak.chauhan2312 said:

you think but China will not fight Russian war.Why will China want to go against USA and whole Europe No not convinced. China have good relation with Europe and they are rival of US but their relation is not bad enough to fight.Russia is already failing but why China would want to fail with it.

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that is the exact reason we will help Russia. We will not let russia fall and US become the sole hegemony power in the world.

Besides, we and russian share the same value: which is to hate US.

T-123456 said:

I was thinking about a conventional war,you can change the warhead of the missile cant you?

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well, how do you know what kind of warhead a ballistic missile carried when they fired?

Russian can say they are traditional warhead, but what the US can see would just be a ballistic missile fired from a ballistic nuclear sub. The US would have to assume it was nuclear unless there are tangible way to tell the warhead is not in mid flight. Which is impossible

he-man said:

No u cannot.Its not practical and neither will it have similar impact.
Most of russian missiles are already in canisters and sealed so its near impossible.

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In wartime,anything is possible,Russians are masters at adjusting weapon systems.
Btw,it was about the Russians reaching the US.