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    Dutch Muslims condemn MP's film

    I think the debate about Christianity in the Netherlands is more or less wound up ...for most of Europe infact. The Dutch are not at all religious, and most consider Christianity as an old superstition. However, this Dutch right-winger believes that the Quran is against the constitution.
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    Dutch Muslims condemn MP's film

    Does that mean that all others should not be allowed to criticize your beliefs, just because you are convinced that they are correct? Have a good time in heaven.:disagree: Nonsense. Beliefs and religions are always open to debate and ridicule. Any partisan can claim some ridiculous theory...
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    Dutch Muslims condemn MP's film

    Ah, now here we've hit the bulls eye. It is absolutely fair to criticize/ridicule another person's beliefs or ideas. If one guy thinks scientology is ridiculous, he has every right to say so, in the harshest of words, if necessary.
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    Pictures from cities | Islamabad

    Islamabad looks like a nice laid back place :tup: Not at all what i expected!!
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    Sony Bravia Ad:

    Wow:pop:...that looks exotic !!:cool: I'm visiting India on my next vacation!! ;)
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    Sony Bravia Ad:

    You sure 'bout that? Those vids look kinda staged, and very amatuerish....also I don't see any punching or kicking... I've learnt a bit of judo, and I don't see any resemblance between this stuff and the far-eastern martial arts.
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    Funny Japanese TV-Show

    Dude, trust me, the Japanese are the wackiest people on earth....
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    Dutch Muslims condemn MP's film

    Seriously, friend, don't even compare Islamic nations with the west in terms of freedom of speech. It just makes you look ignorant. Here's a video of Christopher Hitchens, the well known religion-basher, giving a talk in Austin, Texas: [url= - Christopher Hitchens: Pascal's wager = religious...
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    Dutch Muslims condemn MP's film

    Exactly. Therfore, Islam being an idea (check out the dictionary definition of idea and ideology) might be wrong. Here's one definition to help you along: a formulated thought or opinion :rofl: Who do you think you are? A direct descendant of Adam and Eve? Africans have been openly...
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    Dutch Muslims condemn MP's film

    Don't you believe in your own ideas? Er....by the way...why single out Africans? Even you and me are descended from apes. What about the crusades? What do the crusades have to do with the 21st century? If you can't understand the difference between racism and religious debate, then...
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    Dutch Muslims condemn MP's film

    A religion is a set of ideas...just like any other ideology. Please don't get into word play here. If you think your ideas are eternal and word of god..too bad...others don't think that way. Well, you completely missed the point. Africans have a history of being discriminated against, and if...
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    RACES IN PAKISTAN

    There's a lot of Aryan race stuff going on here!! Are you guys Neo-Nazis or something?
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    Dutch Muslims condemn MP's film

    The point is that religion has fallen out with western intellectuals. If its kosher to ridicule Christianity, why should Islam be given special treatment? Roadrunner, please don't compare this with racism. In the minds of Europeans, Islam, just like communism, relativity and evolution, is an...
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    Thomas Friedman: Constructive and Destructive Societies

    [url= - Tom Friedman: Constructive vs Destructive Societies[/url]
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    Chasers: Interviewing Americans about Muslims

    Yeah...I"ve watched a few episodes of Chasers myself....some of their stuff is good...though they tend to get repetitive in the long run.

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