India - National Integration: The Way Forward

[Aimar]

how about baba ramdev...he just declared he'll b entering the politics and forming his own party for cleansing the system for the betterment for our country.

bakwas bandh karo aur kapalbharti kriya shuru karo..

Baba Ramdev moves from pranayam to politics

Ramdev joins politics, launches party to 'cleanse' system- Hindustan Times

 

[chachachoudhary]

how about baba ramdev...he just declared he'll b entering the politics and forming his own party for cleansing the system for the betterment for our country.

It will be interesting to see what course his movement takes.

Today's indian politics has become a game of money and finding an honest person and getting him elected to the parliament is a daunting task.

Nothing can happen unless and until people rise up to the occasion and realize the true potential of their power to vote.

 

[username]

yes they are region based parties.. DMK(Dravida Munetra Kzhalagam) which means its for the Upliftment of the Dravidians.. the party's basic policy is not for the whole of the country it concerns only with the people of Tamilnadu or south India. and the same with ADMK,MDMK,etc..

Yes they are aptly named based on their policy. Their policy is upliftment of Dravidian people, but it doesn't translate to they don't care / want to oppress non-dravidian people. They don't want to make the country as dravidian, they simply are saying that upliftment of dravidian. Take this in a positive not, this is not like Shiv Sena which people generaly believe as Hiduising the whole country....

and for the Srilanka thing, the support of LTTE from Tamilnadu reduced with the assasination of our PM.

Yes the same is for central govt, initially central govt was also supportive of LTTE, only certain events they turned against them.

Our(people of TN) concerns were only for the brutal killing of the tamil people by srilankan army. Even CM of TN raised this issue with the PM and only after his assurance CM was convinced..

Yes a lot of people in TN were more concerned about brutal killing of Tamil people by SriLankan army, who won't be, but this does not translate to sympathising with the killing of our PM. Don't look at this as black and white. Yes CM of TN raised this issue and held a democratically allowed fasting strike between the breakfast and lunch (the shortest fasting strike without missing any meal of the day) this is merely a publicity stunt... don't take this as though he raised the issue genuinely, he knew for sure that what is being done by GoI will be done and may be he also knew that it is right... Don't consider publicity stunts please...

so on the whole they are not region based politics, even if you consider they are region based, they aren't extremists (in the sense, no dravidising the nation, like islamising the nation / hinduising the nation)...

 

[deepak75]

I don't think Shabnam Hasmi should have resigned. This was a perfect platform to put forward views to counter communal politics at a national stage.

What remains to be seen is WHAT the NIC does. Is it just gonna be one of the statuary bodies that passes resolutions or are they going to get some teeth and do something?

Agree with you Sir.

Even if Uddhav represents what is the rephrensible face of divisive Indian politics today but we have to agree that he too has a constituency in the political landscape of this nation. Instead of quitting like Ms. Hasmi did, the right way would have been to involve and indulge even the rightist of our political fora. What better opportunity to engage and if need be - expose their divisive agenda?

Afterall we indulge the left very fashionably so why show such aversion to the right? May be not enough airtime there.....

 

[ek_indian]

Although I did not want to get into debate of Congress vs BJP however BJP did better than Congress in most of the areas. Moreover BJP is necessity even in ideological terms. There is a left front. There are parties with centristic approach. There is a obvious need for a national level rightist party to balance it out. There is where BJP comes into scene.

Also there are many people who does support BJP. Afterall this is second largest party of country. If Naxals/Maosit (who are trying to grab power through violent means) are called "our mistaken brothers", certainly BJP who tries to achieve it via democratic way, holds more respect.

Lastly I found media role quite interesting. Not only BJP is unfairly criticised, I would say Congress is promoted by media.

 

[Aimar]

India in BJPs time was definitely stronger as compared to Congress.

 

[chachachoudhary]

What better opportunity to engage and if need be - expose their divisive agenda?
....

Because my dear friend, there is a danger of getting yourself exposed.

Remember, these leftist seculars are silent on plight of individuals like Taslima Nasreen.

So, in trying to expose someone's divisive agenda, he feared his pseudo-secular agenda could get exposed.

Chor ke dadhi me tinka.

 

[deepak75]

Because my dear friend, there is a danger of getting yourself exposed.

Remember, these leftist seculars are silent on plight of individuals like Taslima Nasreen.

So, in trying to expose someone's divisive agenda, he feared his pseudo-secular agenda could get exposed.

Chor ke dadhi me tinka.

Secularism is the separation of nation from religion. So in the true sense, I find BJP more secular than any other outfit in our political landscape however, once the votes are sought to be polarised on communal lines, no parties in India are secular.

But there is also a need for taking in to account human psychology and the reason why congress is more acceptable than BJP is because Congress finds convergence with not only minorities in the religious sense = Muslims or Christians but also Hindu social minorities such as the dalit and poor. So it is more a case of necessity winning over prudence than a case of right winning over wrong. Hence every part of our political spectrum has enough skeletons to be worried about being exposed.


Aur Hasmi lady hai boss. Kahan dadhi le ke aa rahe ho

 

[Pride]

I sometimes wonder, How "Secular" secularism is in India? Majority sees it is vote bank policy when advantages are given to Minorities like discounts in Haj etc. While Minority sees imbalance of opportunities when they underperform and majority gets seats and say lack of care taking of minorities.

The same is with BJP and Congress. When BJP talks about Hindus then it becomes hardliner scenario while people like Mulayam/Lalu/Congress wants to grab opportunities about minorities right becomes Secularism. Nobody talks about a proper balance scenario where they talk about rights of Citizen of India and not for any religious groups, Caste, region etc. For me the only one guy who did it was our ex-president Mr Kalam no other can reach to his stature.

 

[chachachoudhary]

For me the only one guy who did it was our ex-president Mr Kalam no other can reach to his stature.

Ironically, he was supported in his second term by BJP and "secular" congress opposed him.

In india, honest people like him become a liability for political parties.

 

[Pride]

Ironically, he was supported in his second term by BJP and "secular" congress opposed him.

In india, honest people like him become a liability for political parties.

Honest people and most important a real patriot is hard to mould for idiot's benefit.

 

[Indian_Idol]

well guys every discussion needs a conclusion. so what is conclusion regarding this selfish political parties and how they can be stopped? we need some rigid law to ensure that vote bank politics and these communal that will violence's never happen.. a law that will allow Election Commision to monitor the activities on political parties.... what are your views?

 

[chachag]

India in BJPs time was definitely stronger as compared to Congress.

I am not a big Fan of BJP but they are more capable than Congress for sure.

But I wish only one thing that whatever party rule in India rule with full majority and able to make their own decision ..... That thing make huge difference

 

[chachachoudhary]

well guys every discussion needs a conclusion. so what is conclusion regarding this selfish political parties and how they can be stopped? we need some rigid law to ensure that vote bank politics and these communal that will violence's never happen.. a law that will allow Election Commision to monitor the activities on political parties.... what are your views?

To achieve this, multiple steps are required to be taken and only people of india can do that. I am listing few important steps.

(DISCLAIMER: I am a person with average intelligence, ample conscience, and abundant patriotism. Please add/delete any or all part of this list according to your intelligence and conscience.)

To be Continued........ (I am typing....)

 

[RobbieS]

Although I did not want to get into debate of Congress vs BJP however BJP did better than Congress in most of the areas. Moreover BJP is necessity even in ideological terms. There is a left front. There are parties with centristic approach. There is a obvious need for a national level rightist party to balance it out. There is where BJP comes into scene.

Also there are many people who does support BJP. Afterall this is second largest party of country. If Naxals/Maosit (who are trying to grab power through violent means) are called "our mistaken brothers", certainly BJP who tries to achieve it via democratic way, holds more respect.

Lastly I found media role quite interesting. Not only BJP is unfairly criticised, I would say Congress is promoted by media.

I would love to see statistics on areas where BJP was better than the Congress. I dont think they can be compared primarily because simply because BJP was only in power for 6 years while Congress has ruled the country for over 40 years.

And again, BJP may be right wing on religious matters but on security its hardly any different from the Congress. I think its their pseudo-militaristic image via their support for Hindu nationalism that gives the impression that they are right-wing party.

Overall, I dont see any difference between the two parties in power. The more they act different, the more the become the same.