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Ayn Al-Arab or so-called "Kobani"?

Do you prefer the original name Ayn Al-Arab or so-called Kobani?


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Some historical background before you make your choice:

The name “Kobani,” which the Kurds prefer to use, is not of Kurdish origin. It emerged in history as the site of a station built as part of the Ottoman railway project to link Berlin and Baghdad. Speculation is rife on the origin of its name. According to the most popular theory, sites with adequate water resources were selected as stations when the railway was constructed. A small hamlet south of what is now Turkey’s border town of Suruc was known as “Arap Punar” (Arab Spring) at the time. The station there was built by workers from Suruc. On their way to work, the workers would say they were going to the “Kompanie” — the German word for “company.” In time, the word evolved to “Kobani” and stuck with the populace. According to another theory related to the railway construction, a company name — “Ko. Bahn” — took hold as “Kobani” in the local vernacular. Yet, no company by the name “Ko. Bahn” appears among the builders of the railway, which include construction heavyweights such as Philipp Holzmann and Friedrich Krupp.

I don't know about you guys. But I prefer to use the original name AYN AL-ARAB! These Kurdish savages migrate to these places and the locals accept them out of good faith. Afterwards these Kurdo fascist claim they have been living there for 3000 years :lol:
 
Actuall kurdos were living there long before the Big Bang and the planet earth evolved under their feet..
The moment these pseudo monkeys put their head out of a cave at Zagros Mountains they have been claiming the history of higher civilizations whereas they haven't put two stones on each other to build something.

I'll stick with Kobani :bunny:
Arabs, Turksm and ISIS wouldn't agree :lol:
 
there are no arabs living there only few. it's baathist name, you fucking trolls.

this is how low fucking turks are

Erdogan plays 'Arab card' in Kobani
Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan’s statements about the Syrian Kurdish city of Kobani, under a weeks-long siege by the Islamic State (IS), may have been mind-boggling but they all have the same objective: to sideline the Democratic Union Party (PYD), Rojava’s main political actor, and its armed wing, the People's Protection Units (YPG). For Erdogan, both are terrorist groups and an extension of the Kurdistan Workers Party (PKK).

Over the last two years, Erdogan has tried to use the “Kurds versus Kurds” card in Rojava, seeking to bring the Iraqi Kurdistan leadership into play in the region. In the past few weeks, he has given the green light to Iraqi Kurdish peshmerga to cross to Rojava via Turkey, after which he made two intriguing statements.

First, he claimed the PYD had accepted an offer by former Free Syrian Army (FSA) commander Abdul Jabbar al-Aqidi to send 1,300 fighters to Kobani to help fight IS. His statement was firmly denied by the PYD, YPG and FSA.

Second, Erdogan implied that Kobani, officially called Ayn al-Arab, was not a Kurdish but an Arab settlement. For a president to step into a controversy over the name of a location with diverse ethnic and civilization heritage is not only an unusual stance but also an obvious attempt at political manipulation.

Erdogan speaks out as international media keeps mum

When it became obvious that the dispatch of peshmerga to Kobani — a force of some 200 people slated to stay away from the front line — would fail to produce the results Erdogan desires, the Arab card came into play. The report about the FSA’s intention to send fighters to Kobani was carried only by Al Jazeera, while other details came not from international agencies but from Erdogan himself. During a trip to Estonia on Oct. 24, the Turkish president offered a striking piece of information: “The PYD has just said it agrees to [the dispatch of] 1,300 men from the Free Syrian Army.”

Al Jazeera had reported that six “FSA-linked groups” — Islamic Front, Al-Sham Legion, Syria Revolutionaries Front, Fifth Legion, Hazm Movement and Mujahedeen Army — had agreed to send fighters. Most of those groups have no organizational links with the FSA. Aqidi himself had resigned from the Aleppo Military Revolutionary Council in 2013. Though it was unclear in whose name Aqidi was speaking, the Turkish media jumped on the Al Jazeera report. PYD leader Salih Muslim denied the story, telling Reuters, “We already established connection with the FSA but no such agreement has been reached yet as Mr. Erdogan has stated.”

The PYD’s representative in Europe, Zuhat Kobani, for his part, told Al-Monitor, “Yes, there was a discussion on the issue between the YPG and Aqadi. The meeting took place in the border region [the Mursitpinar border crossing near Turkey’s Suruc town]. You know that FSA-linked groups are already fighting in Kobani as part of the Euphrates Volcano Joint Operations Center. If the FSA wants to help, they can open a front against IS in Jarablus. There is no need for them to come to Kobani.”

And a source from the Syrian National Coalition told Al-Monitor by telephone, “There is no FSA decision [to send fighters to Kobani]. Aqidi quit the leadership of the Aleppo Military Revolutionary Council in 2013. Hence, he can speak only for himself. Of course, he could well gather 1,300 fighters, provided he gets financial support and weapons. Aleppo is much more crucial for the FSA. The regime’s offensive [there] has intensified, so the FSA cannot send troops to Kobani at such a time. Moreover, IS has begun to threaten Aleppo again.”

The FSA’s Aleppo Military Council commander, Zaher al-Saket, also denied any plan to send fighters to Kobani in a Facebook message that read, “Are we as foolish as to send troops to Ayn al-Arab and leave Aleppo to the dogs? The [Bashar al-] Assad forces are watching out for an opportunity to seize the opposition-controlled areas. There is no coordination between the Military Council and Aqidi.”

Basically, Erdogan insists that supporting the PYD is unacceptable but that the peshmerga or the FSA can go to Kobani. His attempt at publicizing Aqidi comes with some unpleasant connotations. Aqidi had displayed the most hostile attitude against the PYD and the YPG while he was in FSA ranks. At a gathering in Aleppo in August 2013, he hurled threats at the YPG, which he referred to as “the PKK,” saying, “There will be no mercy. We’ll root them out if we get the opportunity.”

Aqidi’s readiness to go to Kobani must mean more than just fighting IS, unless he nourishes hope of getting weapons and money by siding with the YPG, which enjoys US support. His moves, however, should be analyzed in light of Erdogan’s assertions over the past two years that “the PYD’s unilateral declaration of autonomy [in northern Syria] is unacceptable.”

Origins of Kobani’s name

As the controversy over the FSA and Kobani simmered, Aqidi said, “Kobani is part of Aleppo [governorate] and we are taking action in the name of preserving Syria’s integrity.” Erdogan, for his part, commented on Kobani’s name in a spirit no different from that of Aqidi. Asked whether Kobani was an Arab or Kurdish city, he said, “Its name, which is actually Ayn al-Arab, speaks for itself. It became Kobani later.”

The name “Kobani,” which the Kurds prefer to use, is not of Kurdish origin. It emerged in history as the site of a station built as part of the Ottoman railway project to link Berlin and Baghdad. Speculation is rife on the origin of its name. According to the most popular theory, sites with adequate water resources were selected as stations when the railway was constructed. A small hamlet south of what is now Turkey’s border town of Suruc was known as “Arap Punar” (Arab Spring) at the time. The station there was built by workers from Suruc. On their way to work, the workers would say they were going to the “Kompanie” — the German word for “company.” In time, the word evolved to “Kobani” and stuck with the populace. According to another theory related to the railway construction, a company name — “Ko. Bahn” — took hold as “Kobani” in the local vernacular. Yet, no company by the name “Ko. Bahn” appears among the builders of the railway, which include construction heavyweights such as Philipp Holzmann and Friedrich Krupp.

The Syrian state named the city Ayn al-Arab (Arab Spring) and the city was shaped by developments originating from Turkey. Settlement in the area intensified with the arrival of railway workers from Suruc. During the 1915 genocide, it became a safe haven for Armenians. Following the 1925 Seyh Said uprising, many Kurds who fled Turkey or were deported settled down in Kobani.

Even after the Syrian-Turkish border was demarcated Suruc, which lies on the railway route, continued to be the region’s center. Clandestine border crossings were so rife that Ankara’s complaints led the French ruling Syria at the time to set up an intelligence center in Kobani to ensure border control.

In the 1950s, when Turkey mined the border, Kobani was cut off from Suruc and began to develop as a city. Following Syria’s independence, the French intelligence building became the seat of the top local administrator. In 2012, when the Kurds took control of the region, they made the building the headquarters of Asayis, the Kurdish security force. And last month, this building — the city’s only historical structure called “palace” by the locals — fell into IS hands, and thus became the target of US airstrikes.

No matter whether you call it Kobani or Ayn al-Arab, the city — which has also Armenian heritage — signifies one indisputable fact: It is one of the junctures where the tragedies of Kurds and Armenians intersected in history. Kobani was a station for communities who fled, were expelled or emigrated from Turkey. Now this place has become the symbol of resistance against IS. Kobani is the talk of the world because it is resisting, not because it has Arab, Kurdish or Armenian heritage.

It speaks volumes that Erdogan — bent on not leaving Kobani to the Kurds and trying to place it under FSA control — has come to call the city Ayn al-Arab, the name it was given under the Arabization policy of the same Syrian regime he has seen as an archenemy since 2011.



Read more: Erdogan plays 'Arab card' in Kobani - Al-Monitor: the Pulse of the Middle East
 
well once Kurdistan is finally recognized they can name it whatever they want

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ARAB PINARI

Original Ottoman Name, later translated to Ayn al-Arab by Syrian Government.
 
Well, these guys are not going anywhere unless US puts boots on the ground :lol:
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US can hold off ISIS only for so long with air strikes. Then the city will go back to its original name AYN AL-ARAB!
 
Well, these guys are not going anywhere unless US puts boots on the ground :lol:
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not to put down some of the proud Arabs on here, but the Kurds have a reason to fight compared to the cowardly low morale Iraqi armed forces.

The Kurds will meet IS head on and win with the support of the U.S/UK/and Germany. no boots required. The Kurds will be our Sword and we'll be their eyes and guardian angels :cheers:
 
not to put down some of the proud Arabs on here, but the Kurds have a reason to fight compared to the cowardly low morale Iraqi armed forces.

The Kurds will meet IS head on and win with the support of the U.S/UK/and Germany. no boots required. The Kurds will be our Sword and we'll be their eyes and guardian angels :cheers:

Sorry to burst your bubble. IS is advancing against Kurds on three or maybe four fronts.
 
Sorry to burst your bubble. IS is advancing against Kurds on three or maybe four fronts.

and?? it's not over til it's over, and if and i do mean IF ISIS takes over Kobani they might of won the battle, but not the war.

and what I find funny is Turkey will watch ISIS across the border or even chat with them, but when the Kurds win and annex Northern Syria I bet Erdogan will order Turkey into Syria to kill Kurds and overthrow Assad.

that's just sad.
 
Sorry to burst your bubble. IS is advancing against Kurds on three or maybe four fronts.
ISIS is not even using its full force in Ayn Al-Arab. They have couple of hundred in Ayn Al-Arab. They put a black flag on some building. US comes and bombs the flag. ISIS looses one flag pole while US looses millions of dollars on bombing :lol: Also the US concentrates all their fire power to rescue Kurdish terrorists by bombing empthy buildings. In the mean time they are making progress on other fronts.

and?? it's not over til it's over, and if and i do mean IF ISIS takes over Kobani they might of won the battle, but not the war.

and what I find funny is Turkey will watch ISIS across the border or even chat with them, but when the Kurds win and annex Northern Syria I bet Erdogan will order Turkey into Syria to kill Kurds and overthrow Assad.

that's just sad.
US will have to accept ISIS as political reality. Only way for peace. The Kurds have to start peace process with ISIS and hand over what they have stolen from Arabs and Turkmen.
 
and?? it's not over til it's over, and if and i do mean IF ISIS takes over Kobani they might of won the battle, but not the war.

and what I find funny is Turkey will watch ISIS across the border or even chat with them, but when the Kurds win and annex Northern Syria I bet Erdogan will order Turkey into Syria to kill Kurds and overthrow Assad.

that's just sad.

Actually Kerdogan wanted a buffert zone with Syria. Basically all Kurdish lands in Syria. But it won't happen. And now he thought Peshmerga in Kobanê would take away the PYD influence from the city. But in reality it has been a tremendous patriotism boost for Kurds.
 
and?? it's not over til it's over, and if and i do mean IF ISIS takes over Kobani they might of won the battle, but not the war.

and what I find funny is Turkey will watch ISIS across the border or even chat with them, but when the Kurds win and annex Northern Syria I bet Erdogan will order Turkey into Syria to kill Kurds and overthrow Assad.

that's just sad.

IS militants came to border, Turkish soldiers send them back. That's all.

I find it ridiculously funny, when Kurdish terrorist organisations gain control of a city, then changes its name into something unheard before.

Arbil=Hewler
Ayn Al Arab=Kobane
Northern Syria=Rojava

They play childish games, then their heads get chopped off. At the end they cry for papa America. You face off 1.7 billion Muslims here, American. Neither you nor Kurds have upper hand here.
 
IS militants came to border, Turkish soldiers send them back. That's all.

I find it ridiculously funny, when Kurdish terrorist organisations gain control of a city, then changes its name into something unheard before.

Arbil=Hewler
Ayn Al Arab=Kobane
Northern Syria=Rojava

They play childish games, then their heads get chopped off. At the end they cry for papa America. You face off 1.7 billion Muslims here, American. Neither you nor Kurds have upper hand here.

who cares what name they change it too. the area is mainly Kurdish.........it's the people that make the area not the name.
you a head chopper supporter? 1.7 billion Muslims the Ummah ayeeeeee I see how you think it's just like the Kurds they are helping one another out while Turkey wants to control and suppress them :lol:
 

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