Vietnam Defence Forum

[Viet]

This news may be of interest for some readers

Russia is ready to export tactical balistic missile Iskander-E to friendly countries, including Vietnam, excluding China.
Iskander is Russia’s most powerful missile strike systems: conventional warhead, stealth, range 280km, accuracy 2m, speed mach 7, able to hit a wide range of targets, from enemy military units to underground command centers.

the final decision of export the missile is made by the president and the government of Russia.

Russia’s Iskander-E Missile System Ready for Deliveries to Other Countries | Military & Intelligence | RIA Novosti
Việt Nam có thể mua được 'kẻ hủy diệt' Iskander - Quân sự - Tin Ngắn

 

[William Hung]

i am better surrender before one million of them appearing in front of my house tomorrow morning

Madokafc, If I appear in front of your house tomorrow morning, will you surrender your heart to me??

This news may be of interest for some readers

Russia is ready to export tactical balistic missile Iskander-E to friendly countries, including Vietnam, excluding China.
Iskander is Russia’s most powerful missile strike systems: conventional warhead, stealth, range 280km, accuracy 2m, speed mach 7, able to hit a wide range of targets, from enemy military units to underground command centers.

the final decision of export the missile is made by the president and the government of Russia.

Russia’s Iskander-E Missile System Ready for Deliveries to Other Countries | Military & Intelligence | RIA Novosti
Việt Nam có thể mua được 'kẻ hủy diệt' Iskander - Quân sự - Tin Ngắn

View attachment 56278


View attachment 56279


View attachment 56280


View attachment 56281

Iskander-E is nice but 280km is too short to be a real threat to China. You need lots of +1000km range ballistic missiles in order to have an arsenal that will deter China.

 

[Carlosa]

Madokafc, If I appear in front of your house tomorrow morning, will you surrender your heart to me??

View attachment 56312



Iskander-E is nice but 280km is too short to be a real threat to China. You need lots of +1000km range ballistic missiles in order to have an arsenal that will deter China.

There are a few versions of Iskander for export, 280 km range for countries that signed the missile limitation treaty (VN did not) and the 500 km range as well as the extended range Iskander with a 2000 km range that Russia already said it will export to qualifying countries. I have reliable information that the sale to VN was already approved (but not announced yet at the request of Vietnam) and that vietnamese personal is presently training in Russia with those missiles.

Is 2000 km enough for you?

 

[Viet]

Iskander-E is nice but 280km is too short to be a real threat to China. You need lots of +1000km range ballistic missiles in order to have an arsenal that will deter China.

iskander-e is much more powerful than our scud-b in the inventory. we need a bit of time for developing such missiles including long range toys to hit distant targets in china. give us some time.

There are a few versions of Iskander for export, 280 km range for countries that signed the missile limitation treaty (VN did not) and the 500 km range as well as the extended range Iskander with a 2000 km range that Russia already said it will export to qualifying countries. I have reliable information that the sale to VN was already approved (but not announced yet at the request of Vietnam) and that vietnamese personal is presently training in Russia with those missiles.

Is 2000 km enough for you?

well, 2,000km is about the distance Hanoi-Shanghai. I think that is nice.

 

[William Hung]

There are a few versions of Iskander for export, 280 km range for countries that signed the missile limitation treaty (VN did not) and the 500 km range as well as the extended range Iskander with a 2000 km range that Russia already said it will export to qualifying countries. I have reliable information that the sale to VN was already approved (but not announced yet at the request of Vietnam) and that vietnamese personal is presently training in Russia with those missiles.

Is 2000 km enough for you?

Doesn't matter If VN is not a member of MTCR. Russia is a member of MTCR and as I understand, it means that Russia has agreed not to export missiles exceeding 300km.

The export version of Iskander has a range of 280km only. Can you give the source that say that they will export the 2000km version?

 

[Carlosa]

iskander-e is much more powerful than our scud-b in the inventory. we need a bit of time for developing such missiles including long range toys to hit distant targets in china. give us some time.


well, 2,000km is about the distance Hanoi-Shanghai. I think that is nice.

VN no longer have Scud B, it has been upgraded to an upgraded "C" version with a range of 500-550 km with improved accuracy (CEP of 50 meters) because of help from North Korea and there is also another indigenous missile with a range of up to 1500 km (it was shown on VN television) . I believe its a 2 stage missile and it uses solid fuel. VN produces the solid fuel by the way.

The Iskander is the king anyway and if VN can pick up some of that technology it will be a big plus.

Doesn't matter If VN is not a member of MTCR. Russia is a member of MTCR and as I understand, it means that Russia has agreed not to export missiles exceeding 300km.

The export version of Iskander has a range of 280km only. Can you give the source that say that they will export the 2000km version?

I got the info from a Russian article, I don't know if I saved it, I'll look tomorrow.

My source told me that Russia is delivering the Iskanders with the full range, Russia is not concerned with the treaty limitations for Vietnam (but of course it will never be announced like that).

 

[sicsheep]

This news may be of interest for some readers

Russia is ready to export tactical balistic missile Iskander-E to friendly countries, including Vietnam, excluding China.
Iskander is Russia’s most powerful missile strike systems: conventional warhead, stealth, range 280km, accuracy 2m, speed mach 7, able to hit a wide range of targets, from enemy military units to underground command centers.

the final decision of export the missile is made by the president and the government of Russia.

Russia’s Iskander-E Missile System Ready for Deliveries to Other Countries | Military & Intelligence | RIA Novosti
Việt Nam có thể mua được 'kẻ hủy diệt' Iskander - Quân sự - Tin Ngắn

View attachment 56278


View attachment 56279


View attachment 56280


View attachment 56281

1, Don't see Vietnam mentioned in the article even, you have really good imagination. '
2, The export is still not approved

 

[Carlosa]

1, Don't see Vietnam mentioned in the article even, you have really good imagination. '
2, The export is still not approved

Didn't I say that it was not announced at the request of Vietnam?
If you know anything about the VPA, you would know that this is typical of them, many contracts are never announced.

 

[NiceGuy]

Doesn't matter If VN is not a member of MTCR. Russia is a member of MTCR and as I understand, it means that Russia has agreed not to export missiles exceeding 300km.

The export version of Iskander has a range of 280km only. Can you give the source that say that they will export the 2000km version?

Russia can sell nuke capable ballistic missile Shaddock with range of 550km to VN, then why not some more good missile with the range over 300km ??

 

[sicsheep]

Didn't I said that it was not announced at the request of Vietnam?
If you know anything about the VPA, you would know that this is typical of them, many contracts are never announced.

Ok please go on discussing your imaginary missile, btw our guided MLRS has a range of 400km

VN no longer have Scud B, it has been upgraded to an upgraded "C" version with a range of 500-550 km with improved accuracy (CEP of 50 meters)

WHERE do you get your facts?

"SCUD C, Its range was brought up to 500–600 km, but at the cost of a greatly reduced accuracy and warhead size"

 

[Carlosa]

Ok please go on discussing your imaginary missile, btw our guided MLRS has a range of 400km



WHERE do you get your facts?

"SCUD C, Its range was brought up to 500–600 km, but at the cost of a greatly reduced accuracy and warhead size"

Regarding the imaginary missile, it was shown by the military in a news TV program several years ago.

I already said the upgraded vietnamese scud C was upgraded with help from north korea with accuracy of a CEP of 50 meters, it has nothing to do with the Soviet Scud C at this point, so bringing up wikipedia info is not relevant here.

I already said, from "sources", which is the only way to get that type of information from Vietnam since Vietnam doesn't usually reveal anything officially.. That's how it works in Vietnam and the vietnamese here know it.
I posted the information for the sake of the vietnamese here. I couldn't care less about your need for sources or proof and I don't recall asking you about your MLRS.

1, Don't see Vietnam mentioned in the article even, you have really good imagination. '
2, The export is still not approved

My information has nothing to do with that article.

 

[sicsheep]

Regarding the imaginary missile, it was shown by the military in a news TV program several years ago.

I already said the upgraded vietnamese scud C was upgraded with help from north korea with accuracy of a CEP of 50 meters, it has nothing to do with the Soviet Scud C at this point, so bringing up wikipedia info is not relevant here.

I already said, from "sources", which is the only way to get that type of information from Vietnam since Vietnam doesn't usually reveal anything officially.. That's how it works in Vietnam and the vietnamese here know it.
I posted the information for the sake of the vietnamese here. I couldn't care less about your need for sources or proof and I don't recall asking you about your MLRS.

My information has nothing to do with that article.

OK please keep discussing imaginary missiles of Vietnam. Chinese don't release official numbers on weapons either, but there are tons of foreign articles about the weapons' capabilities.
You just dream up weapon deals and numbers. that is all.
I have "sources" say Trương Tấn Sang is Chinese spy.

 

[Carlosa]

OK please keep discussing imaginary missiles of Vietnam. Chinese don't release official numbers on weapons either, but there are tons of foreign articles about the weapons' capabilities.
You just dream up weapon deals and numbers. that is all.
I have "sources" say Trương Tấn Sang is Chinese spy.

There is freedom of speech here, so you are entitled to think whatever you want, it does not change reality anyway and again, I couldn't care less about your opinions and needs.

 

[NiceGuy]

Ok please go on discussing your imaginary missile, btw our guided MLRS has a range of 400km



WHERE do you get your facts?

"SCUD C, Its range was brought up to 500–600 km, but at the cost of a greatly reduced accuracy and warhead size"

Some old news for u abt our Scud.

Vietnam Stocking Up 'SCUDS'

14 April 1999

Vietnam has obtained a quantity of surface-to-surface missiles (SSMs) from North Korea to supplement its inventory of Russian-made SS-1 'Scud B' SSMs, Asian-based intelligence sources have revealed to Jane's Defence Weekly.

The new SSMs are described as "modified Scuds", but neither the specific designation nor the quantity is known. The phrasing suggests they may be of the 'Scud C' variant, which North Korea began to develop in 1984.

North Korea's Scud C / Hwasong 6 (photo : Geocities)
Vietnamese Scud B (photo : Hoangsa)

Pyongyang produced 'Scud B' and 'Scud C' SSMs from the late 1980s to early 1990s but production probably ceased when its focus shifted to the more sophisticated Nodong and Taepo Dong ballistic missile programmes.

The 'Scud B' has a range of 300km and a payload of 985kg. The 'Scud C' extends this range to 550km and has a reduced payload of 770kg, along with improved guidance. The SSM purchase may have been finalised by Vietnamese vice defence minister Nguyen Thoi Bung, since retired, during his December 1996 visit to Pyongyang. It formed part of a package deal worth an estimated $100 million, probably paid in whole or in part through barter arrangements for commodities such as rice.
DEFENSE STUDIES: Vietnam Stocking Up 'SCUDS'

In the newest test, people see the missile can fly from 700 to 900km.

 

[Viet]

1, Don't see Vietnam mentioned in the article even, you have really good imagination. '
2, The export is still not approved

1. have you read the vietnamese article I posted. obviously not because you can´t read it
it says Russia is ready to export the missile to friendly countries, and China does not belong to this category. As Vietnam is considered as a close friend of Russia, we can have it.

2. sure, it is approved as the russian article clearly states it.