Iran completes indigenous missile system Bavar-373

[applesauce]

i seriously doubt that this system is superior to the latest s-300
Iran can certainly, within the timeframe, with their financial capabilties and with their knowhow, create a SAM system that surpasses the earlier S-300 systems, but the latest? i dont think so, not with what we know about their rocket sciences(especially high energy fuel for long range missiles being one of the more difficult areas), not with what we know about their electronics capabilities (them miniature ESA modules are difficult and extremely pricy to make)

 

[syedali73]

We don't know what capabilities Iran has for we don't see much apparently. However, whatever capabilities she possesses, they appear to be sufficient to deter her enemies, which are plentiful by the way.

 

[AUz]

i seriously doubt that this system is superior to the latest s-300
Iran can certainly, within the timeframe, with their financial capabilties and with their knowhow, create a SAM system that surpasses the earlier S-300 systems, but the latest? i dont think so, not with what we know about their rocket sciences(especially high energy fuel for long range missiles being one of the more difficult areas), not with what we know about their electronics capabilities (them miniature ESA modules are difficult and extremely pricy to make)

What is the main difference between earlier S-300s and latest S-300s?

 

[applesauce]

What is the main difference between earlier S-300s and latest S-300s?

many differences, such as earliest versions have a far longer setup time, like an hour as oppose to like a few minutes for recent versions. no TVM for short range, slower processing times, less maximum enemies engaged, less area of coverage, basically, less capable in every way possible.

 

[Hack-Hook]

i seriously doubt that this system is superior to the latest s-300
Iran can certainly, within the timeframe, with their financial capabilties and with their knowhow, create a SAM system that surpasses the earlier S-300 systems, but the latest? i dont think so, not with what we know about their rocket sciences(especially high energy fuel for long range missiles being one of the more difficult areas), not with what we know about their electronics capabilities (them miniature ESA modules are difficult and extremely pricy to make)

And we are supposedly don't knew how to make ESA units ?
Shahin

Shalamcheh

For the information it's how the original looks like

 

[kollang]

@Serpentine
Remove off-topic comments,please.

 

[ALPfollowerOF373]

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The radar system looks very powerfull. Iranian brothers go on, we are standing with you.

 

[ANMDT]

without tech transfer

Bro, i believe they might have capability of design and production for mid-low quaility Long range air defence at least would provide cover of area. They dont need to prove anti ballistic missile capabilities since its not actual threat for iran, while aerial targets like UAV and Rec. planes are more realistic threat, and 100 km range of missiles with radar would be sufficient.

There is ToT for Iran from N.Korea and China , Specially we shouldnt look down on N.Korea capabalities in missile and subsystems technology ,i can expand on this for further but might be considered as trolling in here.

Additionally some reverse engineering for subsystems which is contained in missiles and radar technology from what they purchased earlier ( even a short range AA and radar would be enough ) ; thus by focusing on development of system infastructure and integration, Claim becomes to be stage of "can be achieved" . They quoted that it is fire test, Unguided or guided fire test this remains unknown, usually 1st heard missile test is unguided. There should be longer time to 2-3 or 4 years to make it operational, guide- integration tests, tracking tests , radar tests . Its unrealistic to claim it would be operational next year while missile tests are still ongoing and it doesnt seem to be full-system test, only missile test.

Pictures somehow express smell of propaganda with president's pictures and some sentences , but what i mentioned above,i still support my idea.They can achieve it , by ToT and Info gained by Reverse engineering.

 

[atatwolf]

Bro, i believe they might have capability of design and production for mid-low quaility Long range air defence at least would provide cover of area. They dont need to prove anti ballistic missile capabilities since its not actual threat for iran, while aerial targets like UAV and Rec. planes are more realistic threat, and 100 km range of missiles with radar would be sufficient.

There is ToT for Iran from N.Korea and China , Specially we shouldnt look down on N.Korea capabalities in missile and subsystems technology ,i can expand on this for further but might be considered as trolling in here.

Additionally some reverse engineering for subsystems which is contained in missiles and radar technology from what they purchased earlier ( even a short range AA and radar would be enough ) ; thus by focusing on development of system infastructure and integration, Claim becomes to be stage of "can be achieved" . They quoted that it is fire test, Unguided or guided fire test this remains unknown, usually 1st heard missile test is unguided. There should be longer time to 2-3 or 4 years to make it operational, guide- integration tests, tracking tests , radar tests . Its unrealistic to claim it would be operational next year while missile tests are still ongoing and it doesnt seem to be full-system test, only missile test.

Pictures somehow express smell of propaganda with president's pictures and some sentences , but what i mentioned above,i still support my idea.They can achieve it , by ToT and Info gained by Reverse engineering.

I didn't consider reverse engineering. But still I doubt they have produced anything noteworthy. They said they reserve engineered or engineered so many things and all of them failed or they show some shady photoshop pictures. For example that Gaher Iranian fighter or American stealth UAV. Most experts say those things can never fly. They are made of wood from the inside. Maybe this time they managed to do something and that air system can really fire but I wouldn't be surprised if those barrels are empty.

The difference between real military industrial countries and Iran is this. Iran says they produce something and let the whole world know by big billboards with big text behind mishmash products while the latter doesn't feel the need to do this. I mean we still haven't seen one Iranian product that worked. They simply don't have the trackrecord. They have been lying and manipulating so what is different this time? If somebody is lying for years he can be right once but I rather not believe him anyways since a liar doesn't change overnight.

 

[Serpentine]

but I wouldn't be surprised if those barrels are empty.

This sentence just proved that you are here for trolling purpose, nothing more. Not that I'm surprised though. That picture with so called 'barrels' was already shown as a mock up of Bavar-373 system few years ago. In that year, even the radars of the missile system was not built. Even now, they haven't assembled the full system in one unit, but all single units, radar and missiles are already produced.

So next time before embarrassing yourself, either do some study or just refuse to comment on something you have no idea about.

 

[Hack-Hook]

I didn't consider reverse engineering. But still I doubt they have produced anything noteworthy. They said they reserve engineered or engineered so many things and all of them failed or they show some shady photoshop pictures. For example that Gaher Iranian fighter or American stealth UAV. Most experts say those things can never fly. They are made of wood from the inside. Maybe this time they managed to do something and that air system can really fire but I wouldn't be surprised if those barrels are empty.

The difference between real military industrial countries and Iran is this. Iran says they produce something and let the whole world know by big billboards with big text behind mishmash products while the latter doesn't feel the need to do this. I mean we still haven't seen one Iranian product that worked. They simply don't have the trackrecord. They have been lying and manipulating so what is different this time? If somebody is lying for years he can be right once but I rather not believe him anyways since a liar doesn't change overnight.

I also have no doubt that tgose barrels are empty , for God sake that's a 2-3 year old picture , that even defense ministry (or maybe head of the IRGC I don't recall which one exactly)said the ones who showed that system must answer question about it.

 

[veg]

For me, all this is real.
Reason is very simple, Iran is not purchasing any of Defence Products from Russia or China.
This thing could only happen if Iranians have full confidence in their products.

In comparison to that, your hypothesis is this that since Iranian weapons have not been tested in war, therefore all they make is fake.

Firstly, there was no war (at least from the time that Iranian defence Industry has got developed).

Secondly, Iranian Radars have proven their worth in case of RQ-170 and also in case of firing down Israel's drone. Also Iranian drone flew upon Israel undetected for several hours.

Thirdly, we have video of Iranian Shahid Drone, where it is indeed flying, which tells us that Iran was indeed true in it's claim about high altitude drone.

Iranian Students are pretty smart, and that has been proven without any doubt in European Universities.

 

[SOHEIL]

Iran doesn't have budget to develop own air system. Especially since Iran is getting pounded by sanctions. I'm pretty sure this air system is a dummy like the Iranian fighter and most platforms they showcase. How do I know? They simply don't have the money and somehow without tech transfer and in very limited time they claim to have produce state of the art military products. And of course... no video or proof. There was proof of Qaher fighter and it turned out it was just a toy plane flying.

You are such an idiot person!!!

i seriously doubt that this system is superior to the latest s-300
Iran can certainly, within the timeframe, with their financial capabilties and with their knowhow, create a SAM system that surpasses the earlier S-300 systems, but the latest? i dont think so, not with what we know about their rocket sciences(especially high energy fuel for long range missiles being one of the more difficult areas), not with what we know about their electronics capabilities (them miniature ESA modules are difficult and extremely pricy to make)

About the high energy fuel!

Do you know about the malaard explosion which killed hasan tehrani moghaddam!?

 

[ALPfollowerOF373]

I believe that iranian bavar 373 air defence system is more dangerous for US in issue that iran can supply many anti-usa countries with that systems rather than in issue that its self defence. Because it ensures that countries not with interference of US in air space. Because iran is not like a russia that iran does not hesitate to sell this system to that countries. I hope, my broken english is understood. Sorry for this.

 

[scholseys]

I think it is bunch of drums glued together. The Jew in this forum can debunk it more.