Replacement of Pakistan Army's G-3 Rifles.

[RescueRanger]

They are,But they are still not the standard.

I am yet to see a single PA jawan with g3s or m in Abbottabad,While in Abbottabad the jawans were probably among the first getting the new semi digital uniform

Give it time, G3s is slow roll out.

 

[Kompromat]

@RescueRanger

Are we really THAT incapable of developing a modern assault firearm at home?

 

[RescueRanger]

@RescueRanger

Are we really THAT incapable of developing a modern assault firearm at home?

Sir we are more than able, just lack of motivation. Just look at how much importance we put on "fire safety" in buildings despite Shaeed-e-Millat Tower, Ghanj Mandi, Ghakkar Plaza, Ali Fabrics, Melody Market, Empress Market & LDA Plaza?

 

[Kompromat]

I seriously get depressed when i see the gunsmithing talent in Pakistan being wasted. Why can organizations like DESTO develop a local assault weapon is just beyond me.

Pakistan should develop local designs and end reliance on foreign suppliers. Look at Israel, they started with ripp off Soviet and American designs, now they are an established arms developer!!

 

[haman10]

G3 is powerful but load ! and stucks too much .

here is an iranian solution :

the upgraded version of kheybar 2002 (kh2002) KH-2002 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

which comes under the name of sa'ma :

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[RescueRanger]

I seriously get depressed when i see the gunsmithing talent in Pakistan being wasted. Why can organizations like DESTO develop a local assault weapon is just beyond me.

Pakistan should develop local designs and end reliance on foreign suppliers. Look at Israel, they started with ripp off Soviet and American designs, now they are an established arms developer!!

Sir,

POF is going in that direction, but you know the Champions at the top still stuck in the "imported" maal lo jee mentality. It took Pakistan 15 years to start accepting and buying locally made body armor, where there is demand a supplier will emerge.

Pakistan can easily take the AKM or HK 417 rights and reproduce in Pakistan. But "red tape" zindabad!

 

[farhan_9909]

Both G3m and G3s are a good replacement.Though the Problem is that it should be replaced sooner not by 2020.

So that atleast by 2025 we will be able to issue them a Brand new Rifle be it of foriegn origin or Local

Though G3m seem more like a serioys modification while the G3s seem like just a accessirized G-3

 

[A1Kaid]

Why the hell are they labeling the G3 and it's variants as an "assault rifle" it's a battle rifle.

 

[Informant]

Why the hell are they labeling the G3 and it's variants as an "assault rifle" it's a battle rifle.

Oh we call Chinese AK's SMG's to phir tussi rahn hi do.

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

Both G3m and G3s are a good replacement.Though the Problem is that it should be replaced sooner not by 2020.

So that atleast by 2025 we will be able to issue them a Brand new Rifle be it of foriegn origin or Local

Though G3m seem more like a serioys modification while the G3s seem like just a accessirized G-3

ATS Islamabad - ATS Instructor coaches a SP during weapon handling re-qualification. *Note the ACOG scope.

*G3S pic courtesy Rescue Ranger

 

[Amaa'n]

Why the hell are they labeling the G3 and it's variants as an "assault rifle" it's a battle rifle.

because you don't call a rifle merely on the caliber - it might have the heavier round but folding / retractable stock and shorter barrel kind of makes it an assault rifle

 

[A1Kaid]

because you don't call a rifle merely on the caliber - it might have the heavier round but folding / retractable stock and shorter barrel kind of makes it an assault rifle

It's still primarily a battle rifle just with assault rifle style features like the retractable stock and carbine barrel.

 

[RAMPAGE]

Give it time, G3s is slow roll out.

The barrel is still far too long !!!

 

[Amaa'n]

yes dear i know that - i was just saying that why G3s is labeled as an Assault Rifle, otherwise G3 was meant to a battle rifle.
but it is an awesome platform for DMR role too

It's still primarily a battle rifle just with assault rifle style features like the retractable stock and carbine barrel.

 

[AUz]

Pakistan must learn from Israel when it comes to making firearms.

Look at Israelis, they manufacture probably THE best modern assault rifles and fire-arms for their military and special forces.

While we are still stuck with stone-age G3 that was being used in World War 2 era !!!

Pakistan Army needs two things that might not look that important in over-all military calculus, but will give Pakistan Army a real face-lift as a powerful force to recon with..

These two things are

1) Gyms, body-building, and work-out for soldiers/officers!!!!

Look at Western soldiers. They very presence makes you 'feel' their presence. Strong, muscled, sleek, and FIT! Clearly above the rest.

Our soldiers look tiny, weak boys in comparison to them...

Pakistan Army soldiers must also be fit, strong, and tough men...a whole level above than the civilians!

2) Have our soldiers carry a kick-*** modern assault/battle rifle!

Again, this is psychologically very important! Abhi to you feel bad for Pakistani soldiers since they carry weapons that are inferior to weapons carried by many people in Karachi..lol..

If I was a general assigned to re-vitalized the image of Pakistan Army...I would've done these two things immediately. I know it takes time and can't be done over-night....but still..there should be urgent steps in these regards, transforming your military in coming years.

Side note: I didn't include uniform b/c I think the new uniform is pretty O.K

The barrel is still far too long !!!

Pakistan Military Forces are a massive machine..We aren't like Israelis who faced urban warfare on day to day basis.

Our forces are deployed in plains, deserts, and mountains to face conventional thread of a million man military to our east...

short-barrel guns are in Special Services already...

Size of barrel isn't much of problem for us.