What's new

Yudh Abhyas 2013 at Fort Bragg Begins

I always thought these exercises also had a degree of showcasing/selling certain equipments to India. Twice now I've seen Indian soldiers firing Javelin ATGMs during these exercises and India just so happens to be looking for such products, India was interested in the Stryker a few years back so in 2009 the US brought them to India- the most they had taken to any nation outside the US,Iraq or Afghanistan! Cope India showcased the C-130Js and C-17s and what are the two latest transports the IAF has ordered?!


Same goes for the M777, Apache, Chinook etc


No complaints from me- it's good the Indian military is getting exposed to such stuff- VERY good!

Interesting @ Abingdonboy . Your point (highlighted) is exactly what I had mentioned a few months back and I still remember how you had ridiculed me :) Glad now you think likewise as what I always thought.
 
Interesting @ Abingdonboy . Your point (highlighted) is exactly what I had mentioned a few months back and I still remember how you had ridiculed me :) Glad now you think likewise as what I always thought.

If tha is The case than I apologise sincerely mate. Could you try and find the post I had made back then so I could see?
 
Just watched a few videos of the Y/A-13 and a few more pix on another forum and found (my keen interest) that the helmet covers are of stretch mesh types (same as those used as scarves). Not the canvas / poplin weave with ribstop . The mesh use is a good idea I would say - however, I wonder how it would function in very thick/thorny foliage environments.
 
Soldiers of 2nd Battalion, 5th Gurkha Rifles, perform the Khukri Dance performance by Indian Army # Yudh Abhyas 2013.


969654_10151498004858071_307151583_n.jpg


21292_10151498004883071_274665372_n.jpg


549097_10151498004873071_2046425190_n.jpg


417788_10151498004943071_368033470_n.jpg


960260_10151498005048071_1599744669_n.jpg


970194_10151498005073071_1879681969_n.jpg


969996_10151498005168071_1436363434_n.jpg


431893_10151498005233071_1610031584_n.jpg



More at this link - https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.10151498004778071.1073741873.87167763070&type=1
 
Good, What happened to India-China war games, Saw only one! What about the rest?
 
Why 2 m4s one american borrowed , one indian?
249195_10151495069268071_209329931_n.jpg


BTW I think the tata helmets are these ones as shown on marcos poster.


marcos.jpg
 
It could be that they used the headscarves as helmet covers. And I say this because I have seen some pictures up close which suggest that (some pix from an Indian forum). Sorry , I can't provide links to that forum as I might fall in violation of the rules (?)
 
Good, What happened to India-China war games, Saw only one! What about the rest?
AFAIK another Indo-China military exercise is set to be held in October this year.

Why 2 m4s one american borrowed , one indian?
249195_10151495069268071_209329931_n.jpg

if I was to guess I'd say these were the M4s of the "enemies" they have taken out in this simulated CQB exercise. I have seen IA troops following this practice of taking the weapons from the enemies they have killed in Urban warfare so as to ensure the weapon does not fall into wrong hands.


Both US M4s either way.
 
Have a weird theory, the non para units have no camo. I think we are using american gear for the regulars. Notice kneepads with brown colour same ones seen in a photo of para sf
indiansf8.jpg




All others get American ones. Secretly I think Para's must be thinking the M4s are ****.

M4 -

Weight 6.36 lb (2.88 kg) empty
7.5 lb (3.4 kg) with 30 rounds
Length 33 in (840 mm) (stock extended)
29.75 in (756 mm) (stock retracted)
Barrel length 14.5 in (370 mm)
Cartridge 5.56×45mm NATO
Action Gas-operated, rotating bolt (Direct impingement)
Rate of fire 700–950 round/min cyclic
Muzzle velocity 2970 ft/sec (884 m/sec)
Effective range 500 m for a point target and 600 m for an area target
Feed system 30 round box magazine or other STANAG magazines.
Sights Iron or various optics

tavor -
Specifications
Weight 3.27 kg (7.21 lb) (TAR-21)
3.18 kg (7.0 lb) (CTAR-21)
3.67 kg (8.1 lb) (STAR-21)
2.95 kg (6.5 lb) (MTAR-21)
3.19 kg (7.0 lb) (TC-21)
Length 720 mm (28.3 in) (TAR-21, STAR-21)
640 mm (25.2 in) (CTAR-21)
590 mm (23.2 in) (MTAR-21)
670 mm (26.4 in) (TC-21)
Barrel length 460 mm (18.1 in) (TAR-21, STAR-21)
380 mm (15.0 in) (CTAR-21)
330 mm (13.0 in) (MTAR-21)
410 mm (16.1 in) (TC-21)
Cartridge
5.56×45mm NATO
9×19mm Para (Optional on MTAR-21)
5.56×30mm MINSAS (Optional on Zittara)
5.45×39mm (Optional on RPC Fort-made Tavors)
Action Gas-operated, rotating bolt
Rate of fire 750–900 rounds/min
Muzzle velocity 910 m/s (2,986 ft/s) (TAR-21, STAR-21)
890 m/s (2,919.9 ft/s) (CTAR-21)
870 m/s (2,854.3 ft/s) (MTAR-21)
885 m/s (2,903.5 ft/s) (TC-21)
Effective range 550 m
Feed system Standard 30 round Magazine
Various STANAG magazines
Sights ITL MARS with integrated laser and IR pointer, Trijicon ACOG (STAR-21), EOTech holographic sight, others available
 
Have a weird theory, the non para units have no camo. I think we are using american gear for the regulars. Notice kneepads with brown colour same ones seen in a photo of para sf
indiansf8.jpg




All others get American ones. Secretly I think Para's must be thinking the M4s are ****.

M4 -

Weight 6.36 lb (2.88 kg) empty
7.5 lb (3.4 kg) with 30 rounds
Length 33 in (840 mm) (stock extended)
29.75 in (756 mm) (stock retracted)
Barrel length 14.5 in (370 mm)
Cartridge 5.56×45mm NATO
Action Gas-operated, rotating bolt (Direct impingement)
Rate of fire 700–950 round/min cyclic
Muzzle velocity 2970 ft/sec (884 m/sec)
Effective range 500 m for a point target and 600 m for an area target
Feed system 30 round box magazine or other STANAG magazines.
Sights Iron or various optics

tavor -
Specifications
Weight 3.27 kg (7.21 lb) (TAR-21)
3.18 kg (7.0 lb) (CTAR-21)
3.67 kg (8.1 lb) (STAR-21)
2.95 kg (6.5 lb) (MTAR-21)
3.19 kg (7.0 lb) (TC-21)
Length 720 mm (28.3 in) (TAR-21, STAR-21)
640 mm (25.2 in) (CTAR-21)
590 mm (23.2 in) (MTAR-21)
670 mm (26.4 in) (TC-21)
Barrel length 460 mm (18.1 in) (TAR-21, STAR-21)
380 mm (15.0 in) (CTAR-21)
330 mm (13.0 in) (MTAR-21)
410 mm (16.1 in) (TC-21)
Cartridge
5.56×45mm NATO
9×19mm Para (Optional on MTAR-21)
5.56×30mm MINSAS (Optional on Zittara)
5.45×39mm (Optional on RPC Fort-made Tavors)
Action Gas-operated, rotating bolt
Rate of fire 750–900 rounds/min
Muzzle velocity 910 m/s (2,986 ft/s) (TAR-21, STAR-21)
890 m/s (2,919.9 ft/s) (CTAR-21)
870 m/s (2,854.3 ft/s) (MTAR-21)
885 m/s (2,903.5 ft/s) (TC-21)
Effective range 550 m
Feed system Standard 30 round Magazine
Various STANAG magazines
Sights ITL MARS with integrated laser and IR pointer, Trijicon ACOG (STAR-21), EOTech holographic sight, others available


Why should they think so?

The Paras are certainly pleased with the M4s.
 

Back
Top Bottom