IMPLEMENT system of ALLAH

[Myth_buster_1]

Sir, the thing is that we don't make laws on our own. . . This penalty is by the Holy Prophet (S.A.W). Although there should be a review as to when this penalty applies and then everyone should be informed by this law. .

Do you have hadis or sunnah to back it up? Even if you are right then cant we have a slight change in the law by not putting someone to death for just speaking negative of our religion? If this law is implemented in Pak then you will have even more non muslims and muslims hate Islam even more. And the point here is to bring entire mankind closer to our religion not scare them away. Thats why I keep saying. Us Muslims can not possibly bring the true form of Khalifa on our own before Mehdi.

 

[Muhammad-Bin-Qasim]

Ah.. double standards..
Im sure the prophet would'nt approve of bringing in family into this argument..
Lets see..
can ayaan ali hirsi be hit.. you cant do it.. she in your continent..
but somehow you have no issues going after Taseer.. who while a trash talking uber secularist.. did stand up for what was right..
what bravery..
You've taken the U turn here..
Given the chance.. id shoot people like Hirsi, who cannot be reasoned with since they are on a bank roll.
But i also realize that mangoes dont grow on the moon..
Your passion blinds you.. if star wars is any analogy.. Islam is the force.. and you have succumbed to the dark side.

Santro meray bhai... instead of taking all my comments negatively I humbly request you not to be emotional and think about this issue deeply...

You talk about Hirsi Ali as if I m protecting her... Not only have I spoken against her in public in the open, newspapers and political forums that are read by the entire political arena of my resident country, I ve almost been in trouble for saying things so openly... but my comment about the SSG was for very such people as Hirsi Ali... Infact the Dutch would be more than happy to get rid of her as she has been a burden on the tax payers money and has been proven to have lied in the past...

Furthermore I remember very clearly that the Secularists running this forum were banning everyone who was supporting Taseer's murder and yet I said it then that we should condemn such actions.... reason being because Islam does not allow one man to become judge, jury and executioner... so his murder was wrong too... however his stance on the issue of the law being a black law no decent person can support... why should we degrade ourselves and allow the scum of the earth to insult our deen and our master huh? The problem with the case of that woman was the British court system that runs in our country which allows even accusations as enough to jail someone...

and then given the chance you d shoot Hirsi? is that any different to what I said here? so what re we fighting over then? and do you honestly think that I could or would insult you... the comment was solely to draw your attention to this issue... that you cant and should nt tolerate insults against yourself... and the Islamic State is no different in that regards... Auntie is like my mother too yaar....

I do agree with you... I have a lot of "dark side" in me... this is why I used to say to my mentors that the people ruining our country today... the civilians as well as in the army should be shown absolutely no mercy and executed after a summary trial like what happens in bloody revolutions... sometimes I go back to those thoughts and wonder if this could be an ideal thing for our country... however I am bound by Islam and there should be mercy for all... including the well known hypocrites and their supporters... The system of Allah has delivered before and can deliver again... the hypocrites and those who hold animosity against us Muslims can burn in their own hate and jealousy for all that we care... instead of wasting time bickering with each other I say we should be uniting at all levels and face the threats our land is facing... denial is not an option... treason can only be tolerated for so long... Secularism has been tried to death... we need a change and the best man left the best system behind...

 

[Muhammad-Bin-Qasim]

Do you have hadis or sunnah to back it up? Even if you are right then cant we have a slight change in the law by not putting someone to death for just speaking negative of our religion? If this law is implemented in Pak then you will have even more non muslims and muslims hate Islam even more. And the point here is to bring entire mankind closer to our religion not scare them away. Thats why I keep saying. Us Muslims can not possibly bring the true form of Khalifa on our own before Mehdi.

There is evidence in Islam... but you also have a point there...

The issue is that people dont go around insulting each other commonly... I think this much everyone agrees on... I know non Muslims who speak highly of Islam and I know non Muslims who are just downright stupid... the issue of Blasphemy is when all manner of options are available to a person... he/she can discuss, debate, adopt any stance he/she wants... yet still chooses to resort to insults... OR when there is war... in these two scenarios Blasphemers are not to be shown any mercy...

Have you read what Salahuddin Ayubi did to the Knight that insulted Muhammad saw??

 

[VCheng]

This thread is positively comical in its delusions!

 

[Muhammad-Bin-Qasim]

This thread is positively comical in its delusions!

and this is the height and max limit of your engagement in the discussion... Can you perhaps do better?

Lemme guess... Why would a great man like you engage with us lowlives on a delusional thread about implementing the system of Allah in a "Muslim Majority" land... remind me again... how many Hajj have you done so far? was it 12... Did you go there to mock Muslims praying to Allah?

For someone who quotes Daffy Duck in his signature... YOu do know a thing or two about being comical... I would use the word Pathetic for you though... You re more annoying than you are funny...

 

[VCheng]

........thread about implementing the system of Allah in a "Muslim Majority" land..........

You mean Pakistan? Look at what horrors your ilk has already wrought on a peaceful people. And you want to go to a brazen dictatorship under the garb of a most peaceful religion?

No thank you.

 

[Myth_buster_1]

Have you read what Salahuddin Ayubi did to the Knight that insulted Muhammad saw??

The way how Crusaders landed on holy land deserved to be killed on sight because of their inhumane treatment of not just Muslims but Christians and Jews as well. Salahuddin did spare alot of prisoners lives and thats why he was highly respected and feared still today.
I believe those knights that you are talking about did not just insult Islam but harassed Muslim women and children as well thats why their death can be justified but today's context its quite different.

There is evidence in Islam...

Those evidence can be used out of context.
I am sure their are alot other positive Islamic things that can be implemented.

 

[Chogy]

and insult the greatest man who ever lived... the man who is greater than myself, my mother and father... I would be more than happy to put a bullet in such a person's head...

And here in a tidy package is exactly why a proposed Caliphate repulses us.

It's wonderful that you have such belief in Muhammed. I personally do not insult him, because it is hurtful, and I am a polite person. But here's the rub - Christians, Buddhists, Jews, Shinto, Wiccans, the majority of the world simply do not hold him in your esteem. We don't believe in him.

Please answer these questions...

1) Within a Caliphate, do you (or the Caliphate courts) have the right to kill me if I insult Muhammed?

2) Do you honestly believe if Muhammed himself appeared just before my execution for insulting Islam, that he would approve of my death... over a verbal insult?

If the answer to any of these is yes, God help us.

 

[VCheng]

And here in a tidy package is exactly why a proposed Caliphate repulses us.

It's wonderful that you have such belief in Muhammed. I personally do not insult him, because it is hurtful, and I am a polite person. But here's the rub - Christians, Buddhists, Jews, Shinto, Wiccans, the majority of the world simply do not hold him in your esteem. We don't believe in him.

Please answer these questions...

1) Within a Caliphate, do you (or the Caliphate courts) have the right to kill me if I insult Muhammed?

2) Do you honestly believe if Muhammed himself appeared just before my execution for insulting Islam, that he would approve of my death... over a verbal insult?

If the answer to any of these is yes, God help us.

Chogy: Please forgive them for they know not what they do or say. However, there are enough people like you and me working together to stop their delusions for sure.

 

[The HBS Guy]

Chogy: Please forgive them for they know not what they do. However, there are enough people like you and me working together to stop their delusions for sure.

Hey Jesus said that!

...ehhmmm...did he mention Chogy by any chance?

 

[VCheng]

Hey Jesus said that!

...ehhmmm...did he mention Chogy by any chance?

Who is this person "Jesus" you speak of?

 

[The HBS Guy]

Who is this person "Jesus" you speak of?

What you don't know Jesus?

Oh, He's a pretty jolly fellow. We're having beer together this evening over there at THE DINER.

...wrote a book they told me.

...feel free to join.

 

[VCheng]

What you don't know Jesus?

Oh, He's a pretty jolly fellow. We're having beer together this evening over there at THE DINER.

...wrote a book they told me.

...feel free to join.

Thank you for the invite.

How about having an OBL on me?

Two shots and a splash of water!

 

[The HBS Guy]

Thank you for the invite.

How about having an OBL on me?

Two shots and a splash of water!

Sure why not!

You want anything to go with it?

Are you into weed?

How 'bout a Zawaheeri ...solid stuff they say.

 

[VCheng]

Sure why not!

You want anything to go with it?

Are you into weed?

How 'bout a Zawaheeri ...solid stuff they say.

Nah man, thanks, I am an idiot even BEFORE getting high!