Efforts increase to prevent interfaith marriage in India

[utraash]

Why

“Religion in pre-Islamic Arabia was a mix of polytheism, Christianity, Judaism, and Iranian religions. Arab polytheism, the dominant belief system, was based on the belief in deities and other supernatural beings such as djinn. Gods and goddesses were worshipped at local shrines, such as the Kaaba in Mecca.”

That's exactly I am talking.

Where did polytheists disappear?
What was the composition of society before Islam in Arabia & what did happen in between when Islam took over entire Arabia?

Here lies the puzzle of "Real Tolerance"...

 

[kingQamaR]

Why
That's exactly I am talking.

Where did polytheists disappear?
What was the composition of society before Islam in Arabia & what did happen in between when Islam took over entire Arabia?

Here lies the puzzle of "Real Tolerance"...

Islam spread quickly because the Koran has positive messages. Many people were willing to convert to Islam because of messages like people who do what is right will be rewarded, and human life and personal property were to be valued and respected.

 

[hussain0216]

Islam, my friend, has been mutilated beyond all recognition.
No one, least of all the "Muslims", can agree what Islam actually is anymore let alone your "for all times, all places" trope.
The Muslims who make up Islam have distanced themselves from the core values of inclusivity, forgiveness, forbearance, progress and humanity.
It is now merely a delusional, regressive, entitled cult that sees itself as a superior way of life without having any credible credentials to support that claim.

Islam is the same it's always been, it's individuals and people who have always changed and fallen, their greatest bugbear had always been why islam can't bend to allow them to do what they want

Why
That's exactly I am talking.

Where did polytheists disappear?
What was the composition of society before Islam in Arabia & what did happen in between when Islam took over entire Arabia?

Here lies the puzzle of "Real Tolerance"...

Idol worshipping was abhorrent to God, Its one of the greatest sins and why it was so detested

 

[waz]

Where do you get that? I don't see any motivated crime being perpetrated by us on Muslim except some stray cases.
On the contrary to your claim here in indian it is pious believers who prey on Hindu women/girls. In fact in a recent case a rape accused(no brainer job which faith he was from) shot to death outside court premises for constant humiliation to girls & her family.

Rubbish stop lying, states governments and your federal government to a degree are complicit.
The sanghis have made it an obsession to prey on Muslim women, there is mountains of evidence on this.

 

[Warking]

I see. LOL. I got a sense of that day-before-yesterday when MultaniGuy tagged in the management.

About sources, I have quoted once or twice and will do so again as appropriate. Also, it's funny the chosen believe this so despite me being among the very few Muslims here who have project Islam - through article OPs and posts - to be a progressive ideology. Do they think my long membership here is really a deep, strange Hindutvadi campaign to project Islam to be a progressive, older Socialist revolution ?




This burqa thing in India has made a lot of the forum right-wing Muslim variety.



To make this all clear, you are a member since 2008 and I since 2014 with almost 24,000 posts. Did you not know that I am a Communist Muslim ?

Commie Muslim idk man seems kinda sus ngl.

 

[Warking]

Gtfo from the lands of the mushrikeen then. Or you just mention atat abd ahadeeth about the marrying the mushirkeen but ignore the ayat and ahadeeth that forbid you living with them??!

Its our land not theirs its just that the brits gave it to them it will be taken back.

The general your either a Muslim or a commie, liberal, secular or ( insert ideology) you cant be for example a Muslim communist or a Muslim secularist.

 

[utraash]

Rubbish stop lying, states governments and your federal government to a degree are complicit.
The sanghis have made it an obsession to prey on Muslim women, there is mountains of evidence on this.

What evidence you have Mr. mod. You have nothing but some low profile cases where women were targeted online & that is mountain of evidence to claim your right. Poor pious believer.

There are several real cases where Hindu women were chopped & brutally murdered once the pious believer lust is settled down with Deen.

UP: Minor Dalit girl raped, converted, force-fed beef by Shahzad and his family members

On Sunday, the cops arrested accused Shahzad, his parents Harun and Gulfsa, brothers Bilal and Farman, and friend Sameer. | OpIndia News

www.opindia.com

Tension in outer Delhi’s Sultanpuri as rape accused kills survivor’s brother

The accused and his brother were arrested within a few hours of the firing and stabbing incident that took place near a public park in Sultanpuri, police said. The main accused was released on bail in the rape case three days ago

www.hindustantimes.com

Minor Dalit girl gang-raped, murdered in Alwar | Jaipur News - Times of India

A 17-year-old dalit girl was gangraped and brutally murdered in Sadar police station area of Alwar district on Wednesday night.

m.timesofindia.com

UP: Dalit woman accuses man of rape, blackmail, forcible conversion

A Dalit woman in Uttar Pradesh's Bareilly alleged that a Muslim Youth raped her after befriending her on social media and that his family forced her to convert for marriage.

www.indiatoday.in

Meerut: Lured into friendship, Dalit woman gang-raped in cinema hall

A 21-year-old Dalit woman accused a Muslim man of faking his identity to establish friendship with her and raping her with a friend at a cinema hall in Mawana town of Meerut.

www.hindustantimes.com

https://thewire.in/caste/uttar-pradesh-balrampur-rape-case-dalit-woman-dies

Naushad raped Dalit girl for 7 months, says, 'If You become a Muslim, then only...'

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Uttar Pradesh: Hindu girl beheaded after she refused to convert to Islam, husband Ejaz and friend Shoaib Akhtar nabbed

23-year-old Hindu woman has been brutally murdered by two Muslim youth after she refused to convert to Islam after marriage. | OpIndia News

www.opindia.com

Yet Another Hindu Girl Brutally Murdered by her Muslim Partner, Despite Converting to Islam

This tragic case of ‘Muslim man kills Hindu girl’ comes from Nagpur. A 19-year-old aspiring model, Khushi Parihar was her Hindu name, met a Muslim man Ashraf

hindupost.in

https://twitter.com/x/status/1150331560136044544

Murder of Nikita Tomar - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

'They're taking our girls to ISIS': How Church is now driving ‘love jihad’ narrative in Kerala

Syro-Malabar Church had in 2020 released a strong statement, claiming Christian women were becoming victims of ‘love jihad’. This is now resonating with a section of its parishioners.

theprint.in

Ladakh tense over Muslim-Buddhist ‘love jihad’ marriage | India News - Times of India

India News: The Ladakh Buddhist Association (LBA) is up in arms against the PDP-BJP government in Jammu & Kashmir and has decided to approach Prime Minister Naren

m.timesofindia.com

Kashmir love jihad news: 1 of 2 ‘converted’ girls returns; Sikhs call for ‘love jihad’ law in J&K | Amritsar News - Times of India

Outrage over the alleged abduction, conversion and forced marriage of two Kashmiri Sikh girls to older men appeared to ebb somewhat on Tuesday when on

m.timesofindia.com

I know the tactics used by pious followers, put entire blame on the other side & throw the cases of motivated crimes under the carpet & claim deen has nothing to do with it.
Certainly if one has good sample size with a clear pattern that indicates such events are not random at all, that means there is driving force & in case of pious believers we know where it is coming from.

Have you heard of grooming gangs?

If you want me to dig into history, we can, how women were treated & victimised since sword of God started slicing the non-believers.

Islam spread quickly because the Koran has positive messages. Many people were willing to convert to Islam because of messages like people who do what is right will be rewarded, and human life and personal property were to be valued and respected.

I don't want to go down the lanes of history as we know how codes have programmed the minds of it's followers across generation, they will defend indefensible irrespective of clear evidence of sheer violence.

 

[utraash]

Islam is the same it's always been, it's individuals and people who have always changed and fallen, their greatest bugbear had always been why islam can't bend to allow them to do what they want



Idol worshipping was abhorrent to God, Its one of the greatest sins and why it was so detested

Thanks for proving my point.

Now tell me which religion is phobic to polytheistic faith.
Tell us also which religion claim "religion of peace" despite its contemptuous tone for other faith especially for idolatrous.

Don't say otherwise because we also know the codes of religion of peace.

 

[kingQamaR]

Thanks for proving my point.

Now tell me which religion is phobic to polytheistic faith.
Tell us also which religion claim "religion of peace" despite its contemptuous tone for other faith especially for idolatrous.

Don't say otherwise because we also know the codes of religion of peace.

Have you read the original bible text and Jewish Torah , punishment’s for adulterous/ gays etc . I suggest you go do that first read learn other faiths laws against law breakers no point going on about Islam on here until you read others text. The water down bible teachings you see now are so far off bibles true texts were deliberately left out for the modern societies, Same with Jewish Torah on its crime punishments laws. And you really should not mix things up with Islam hindu fights in india. And that’s daft, your not a Islamic country neither have Islamic laws I do not understand why you connecting to our faith for.

 

[waz]

What evidence you have Mr. mod. You have nothing but some low profile cases where women were targeted online & that is mountain of evidence to claim your right. Poor pious believer.

There are several real cases where Hindu women were chopped & brutally murdered once the pious believer lust is settled down with Deen.

UP: Minor Dalit girl raped, converted, force-fed beef by Shahzad and his family members

On Sunday, the cops arrested accused Shahzad, his parents Harun and Gulfsa, brothers Bilal and Farman, and friend Sameer. | OpIndia News

www.opindia.com

Tension in outer Delhi’s Sultanpuri as rape accused kills survivor’s brother

The accused and his brother were arrested within a few hours of the firing and stabbing incident that took place near a public park in Sultanpuri, police said. The main accused was released on bail in the rape case three days ago

www.hindustantimes.com

Minor Dalit girl gang-raped, murdered in Alwar | Jaipur News - Times of India

A 17-year-old dalit girl was gangraped and brutally murdered in Sadar police station area of Alwar district on Wednesday night.

m.timesofindia.com

UP: Dalit woman accuses man of rape, blackmail, forcible conversion

A Dalit woman in Uttar Pradesh's Bareilly alleged that a Muslim Youth raped her after befriending her on social media and that his family forced her to convert for marriage.

www.indiatoday.in

Meerut: Lured into friendship, Dalit woman gang-raped in cinema hall

A 21-year-old Dalit woman accused a Muslim man of faking his identity to establish friendship with her and raping her with a friend at a cinema hall in Mawana town of Meerut.

www.hindustantimes.com

https://thewire.in/caste/uttar-pradesh-balrampur-rape-case-dalit-woman-dies

Naushad raped Dalit girl for 7 months, says, 'If You become a Muslim, then only...'

Lucknow: Love jihad and conversion cases in Uttar Pradesh are not going to stop. The latest case has come to light from the Jamo police stat..|News Track

english.newstracklive.com

Uttar Pradesh: Hindu girl beheaded after she refused to convert to Islam, husband Ejaz and friend Shoaib Akhtar nabbed

23-year-old Hindu woman has been brutally murdered by two Muslim youth after she refused to convert to Islam after marriage. | OpIndia News

www.opindia.com

Yet Another Hindu Girl Brutally Murdered by her Muslim Partner, Despite Converting to Islam

This tragic case of ‘Muslim man kills Hindu girl’ comes from Nagpur. A 19-year-old aspiring model, Khushi Parihar was her Hindu name, met a Muslim man Ashraf

hindupost.in

https://twitter.com/x/status/1150331560136044544

Murder of Nikita Tomar - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

'They're taking our girls to ISIS': How Church is now driving ‘love jihad’ narrative in Kerala

Syro-Malabar Church had in 2020 released a strong statement, claiming Christian women were becoming victims of ‘love jihad’. This is now resonating with a section of its parishioners.

theprint.in

Ladakh tense over Muslim-Buddhist ‘love jihad’ marriage | India News - Times of India

India News: The Ladakh Buddhist Association (LBA) is up in arms against the PDP-BJP government in Jammu & Kashmir and has decided to approach Prime Minister Naren

m.timesofindia.com

Kashmir love jihad news: 1 of 2 ‘converted’ girls returns; Sikhs call for ‘love jihad’ law in J&K | Amritsar News - Times of India

Outrage over the alleged abduction, conversion and forced marriage of two Kashmiri Sikh girls to older men appeared to ebb somewhat on Tuesday when on

m.timesofindia.com

I know the tactics used by pious followers, put entire blame on the other side & throw the cases of motivated crimes under the carpet & claim deen has nothing to do with it.
Certainly if one has good sample size with a clear pattern that indicates such events are not random at all, that means there is driving force & in case of pious believers we know where it is coming from.

Have you heard of grooming gangs?

If you want me to dig into history, we can, how women were treated & victimised since sword of God started slicing the non-believers.

You’re not only a lying Sanghi but also a dumb one;

Indian Court Convicts 6 Hindus in Rape and Murder of Muslim Girl, 8 (Published 2019)

The men were handed sentences of five years to life imprisonment in the case, which reflected bitter religious divisions in the disputed region of Jammu and Kashmir.

www.nytimes.com

Your entire right-wing establishment came out to defend these heros of yours.

Sadhvi Vibhanand’s Call to Rape Muslim Women With Impunity Shows Hindutva s Politics of Fear

Vibhanand Giri is heard exhorting Hindu men to rape and impregnate Muslim women if Muslim men cast even a glance at Hindu girls at the December the Dharma Sansad in Raipur.

m.thewire.in

Your Sanghi priests telling to rape women during religious festivals.

‘Breasts cut off’: 21-yr-old Muslim woman allegedly raped, brutally murdered in Delhi

A 21-year-old Delhi Civil Defence (DCD) employee was abducted, allegedly raped and brutally murdered on 26th August in Sangam Vihar, Delhi. As per Cognate, an India based news website, the family has alleged that the victim was abducted from her workplace on the evening of 26th and taken to...

freepresskashmir.news

Woman 'gang raped for eating beef'

'They asked if we eat beef. We said we didn't, but they insisted we did,' says victim

www.independent.co.uk

Women's rights bodies seek justice for Muslim girl burned alive in India | TRT World

www.trtworld.com

You have also shown as part of your evidence women involved in relationships with men, which again evil isn’t the same as attacks on strangers and entire establishments calling for the rape of Muslim women like your Sanghi brothers and sisters do. You have it as policy, something you cover up.


Also your final warning I’m not insulting Hinduism and never will. Your digs at Islam because of your love for the Sanghis will ah e you banned.

 

[kingQamaR]

I have read both books too.
You should understand one thing, codifying is one thing & implementing or following another.
In Bible also many things are written against other faith but then you have also see the acts of its followers, how far they go defend indefensible & put their codes into action by any means except that evangelical activities. We have condemned those activities too if done with coercion.

Second thing is you must understand what example Jesus set for humanity, for example violence, slavery, war booty, fight, terror or gaining control economically over people etc.. you don't see any of that committed by Jesus himself during his lifetime. However I can't say about other so called messengers.

Besides its meaning in Eearthly language, it has also another meaning. The explanation is given in the Qur’an, and the spoils of war isn’t something good.
I have that deals with this question.
It is something that Muslims shouldn’t strive for. It is something related with betrayal and falsity.
It is basically material remaining from a battle.
However, desire for spoils of war is opposite of being honest with the Prophet.
Those who preferred to get some material values, run away from the Prophet.

 

[utraash]

It's not religion bruv, it's God

Idol worshipping is the one of the most detestable abhorrent actions a human can commit

It's why a true partition of India was the only way, not this shit where everyone gets stuck together

Thanks again for proving the same point.

Who has authority & true sense of rationality to call other's God fake or false?

I can share my opinion about Allah or messenger which will be exactly opposite to yours.
In our philosophy it is said truth has many manifestations & it is considered good to have many manifestations in different forms.

 

[waz]

Your ministers justify rape Sanghi boy;

Hindu Extremists Shrug Off a Depraved Crime

The rape and murder of an 8-year-old Muslim girl is bringing out the worst in some Indians.

www.wsj.com

@utraash

 

[waz]

Banned the prick he didn’t listen. Like most of his kind.

 

[jamahir]

Commie Muslim idk man seems kinda sus ngl.

Please read post# 21.