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tipu sultan ancestors were pakistani

Do take the trouble to issue visas to his descendants and take them into your fold. Some of them may not be willing to shift, but just ignore the black sheep and do your best for the rest. Such Christian charity will surely be rewarded in the next world.

You will do even better to pass legislation to that effect, that all ideological and spiritual Pakistanis are to be automatically granted Pakistani citizenship. In case your legislative skills fail you, you might consider asking the BJP legal eagles to assist you; they are quite adept at drafting parochial and preferential legislation, and will surely be glad to support your noble crusade.

The logical next step should be to declare Muhammad Bin Qasim a Pakistani, if we accept this logic. Then his invasion of Sindh would just be another law enforcement operation. :D

(Please note that Mir Sadiq would remain Indian. :D )
 
And I am made to suffer for being so, too. :D

(A price worth paying, I suppose.)

I really wish you wouldn't. You are too good a man to inflict this on yourself. Leave it and exercise your brain, to put it in military terms, in more 'befitting' ways.

Is this word 'befitting' peculiarly sub-continental? Has anyone heard it from others besides Indians and Pakistanis?
 
I really wish you wouldn't. You are too good a man to inflict this on yourself. Leave it and exercise your brain, to put it in military terms, in more 'befitting' ways.

Is this word 'befitting' peculiarly sub-continental? Has anyone heard it from others besides Indians and Pakistanis?

What would you suggest? Leave PDF? (since I am banished from assuming any meaningful roles as an undesirable)
 
What would you suggest? Leave PDF? (since I am banished from assuming any meaningful roles as an undesirable)

No.

Pick topics that you like, here or elsewhere, and lead the discussion. Heaven knows you don't lack the processing power. Just stop looking at anything personal and stick stubbornly to the abstruse and mystifying that needs clarifying.
 
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Tipu Sultan was Ideological , spiritual and genetically Pakistani
tipu sultan ancestors were punjabi from sipra clan
Fateh Muhammad, who was originally from Punjab chiniot, moved to Sira (in the present Tumakuru district) along with his father Muhammad Ali and uncle Muhammad Wali at a young age.

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Asalamu Alaikum

Already known bro. I and others have pointed this out before.

But he was not Sipran. He was a Syed.
 
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Lol @ tipu being a Pakistani.

Pakistan may have come to existence in 1947, but Tipu Sultan's family did originally come from the Punjab, he spoke Urdu, and he was a Muslim. No reason for us to not like him.

But I don't see why (Kafir) Indians like him. He fought against the Marathas and wasn't exactly nice to you guys:

Ripaud de Montaudevert, a French soldier who fought for Tipu, in his diary entry of January 14 1799 writes: "I'm disturbed by Tipu Sultan's treatment of these most gentle souls, the Hindus. During the siege of Mangalore, Tipu's soldiers daily exposed the heads of many innocent Brahmins within sight from the fort for the Zamorin and his
Hindu followers to see."

https://www.outlookindia.com/magazine/story/the-tyrant-diaries/284803

The logical next step should be to declare Muhammad Bin Qasim a Pakistani, if we accept this logic. Then his invasion of Sindh would just be another law enforcement operation.

It is to be expected that someone like you would oppose the actions of someone whom without, Pakistan would never exist.

Muhammad Bin Qasim is to Pakistan what Christopher Columbus is to America. Neither were from the land, but both are the reason these respective nations exist today.
 
When we say "Pakistani" in regards to someone from pre-1947; we mean anyone from these lands.

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I'd extend it include any Muslims from British India prior to 1947 as well (so long as they were clearly not advocates of Akhand Bharat nonsense) since Pakistan was made for the Muslims of British India.
 
Muhammad Bin Qasim is to Pakistan what Christopher Columbus is to America. Neither were from the land, but both are the reason these respective nations exist today.

Isn't that why I proposed that MBQ be declared a Pakistani? :D

No.

Pick topics that you like, here or elsewhere, and lead the discussion. Heaven knows you don't lack the processing power. Just stop looking at anything personal and stick stubbornly to the abstruse and mystifying that needs clarifying.

Perhaps one day when there can be fair engagement and something to justify the effort. Perhaps.
 
Tipu Sultan was a Pakistani. Ideological and spiritual Pakistani

Maybe somewhat concerning the original Pakistan....given he was a real fan of Bengal (their economy, culture were seen as things to emulate and improve upon by Tipu for Mysore).

But definitely not the current guise, he would hate you pretty badly for what your military ruffians did in the late 60s and early 70s. He would identify much more strongly with Bangladesh....but his final loyalty would probably be similar to that of the Owaisi clan....to that of Hindustan.

@Atlas @Mage @Al-Ansar @bluesky

Do take the trouble to issue visas to his descendants and take them into your fold. Some of them may not be willing to shift, but just ignore the black sheep and do your best for the rest. Such Christian charity will surely be rewarded in the next world.

You will do even better to pass legislation to that effect, that all ideological and spiritual Pakistanis are to be automatically granted Pakistani citizenship. In case your legislative skills fail you, you might consider asking the BJP legal eagles to assist you; they are quite adept at drafting parochial and preferential legislation, and will surely be glad to support your noble crusade.

These people don't even know where Tipu's descendants live or why they live there. Not one would leave for Pakistan if given the choice...I am pretty sure of that (as bad as their fate has been over the years in India).
 
Maybe somewhat concerning the original Pakistan....given he was a real fan of Bengal (their economy, culture were seen as things to emulate and improve upon by Tipu for Mysore).

But definitely not the current guise, he would hate you pretty badly for what your military ruffians did in the late 60s and early 70s. He would identify much more strongly with Bangladesh....but his final loyalty would probably be similar to that of the Owaisi clan....to that of Hindustan.

We would never know now would we.
 

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