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I cant believe this :blink:

Posted by Robert on July 24, 2010 6:20 AM

Muhammad said: "If a husband calls his wife to his bed [i.e. to have sexual relation] and she refuses and causes him to sleep in anger, the angels will curse her till morning" (Bukhari 4.54.460).

He also said: "By him in Whose Hand lies my life, a woman can not carry out the right of her Lord, till she carries out the right of her husband. And if he asks her to surrender herself [to him for sexual intercourse] she should not refuse him even if she is on a camel's saddle" (Ibn Majah 1854).

And now a New Jersey judge sees no evidence that a Muslim committed sexual assault of his wife -- not because he didn't do it, but because he was acting on his Islamic beliefs: "This court does not feel that, under the circumstances, that this defendant had a criminal desire to or intent to sexually assault or to sexually contact the plaintiff when he did. The court believes that he was operating under his belief that it is, as the husband, his desire to have sex when and whether he wanted to, was something that was consistent with his practices and it was something that was not prohibited."

Luckily, the appellate court overturned this decision, and a Sharia ruling by an American court has not been allowed to stand. This time.

"Cultural Defense Accepted as to Nonconsensual Sex in New Jersey Trial Court, Rejected on Appeal," by Eugene Volokh in [1] The Volokh Conspiracy, July 23 (thanks to CameoRed):

From today's opinion in [2] S.D. v. M.J.R. (N.J. Super. Ct. App. Div.), a domestic restraining order case:

The record reflects that plaintiff, S.D., and defendant, M.J.R., are citizens of Morocco and adherents to the Muslim faith. They were wed in Morocco in an arranged marriage on July 31, 2008, when plaintiff was seventeen years old. [FN1] The parties did not know each other prior to the marriage. On August 29, 2008, they came to New Jersey as the result of defendant's employment in this country as an accountant....

[Long discussion of the wife's allegations of abuse, which included several instances of nonconsensual sex as well as other abuse, omitted for space reasons. -EV]

Upon their return to the apartment, defendant forced plaintiff to have sex with him while she cried. Plaintiff testified that defendant always told her

this is according to our religion. You are my wife, I c[an] do anything to you. The woman, she should submit and do anything I ask her to do.

After having sex, defendant took plaintiff to a travel agency to buy a ticket for her return to Morocco. However the ticket was not purchased, and the couple returned to the apartment. Once there, defendant threatened divorce, but nonetheless again engaged in nonconsensual sex while plaintiff cried. Later that day, defendant and his mother took plaintiff to the home of the Imam and, in the presence of the Imam, his wife, and defendant's mother, defendant verbally divorced plaintiff....[...]

While recognizing that defendant had engaged in sexual relations with plaintiff against her expressed wishes in November 2008 and on the night of January 15 to 16, 2009, the judge did not find sexual assault or criminal sexual conduct to have been proven. He stated:

This court does not feel that, under the circumstances, that this defendant had a criminal desire to or intent to sexually assault or to sexually contact the plaintiff when he did. The court believes that he was operating under his belief that it is, as the husband, his desire to have sex when and whether he wanted to, was something that was consistent with his practices and it was something that was not prohibited.

After acknowledging that this was a case in which religious custom clashed with the law, and that under the law, plaintiff had a right to refuse defendant's advances, the judge found that defendant did not act with a criminal intent when he repeatedly insisted upon intercourse, despite plaintiff's contrary wishes.

Having found acts of domestic violence consisting of assault and harassment to have occurred, the judge turned to the issue of whether a final restraining order should be entered. He found such an order unnecessary, vacated the temporary restraints previously entered in the matter and dismissed plaintiff's domestic violence action....

The appellate court reversed this absurd decision, saying:

As the judge recognized, the case thus presents a conflict between the criminal law and religious precepts. In resolving this conflict, the judge determined to except defendant from the operation of the State's statutes as the result of his religious beliefs. In doing so, the judge was mistaken.

A close call. But no doubt more of this is to come.
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Ofcourse i hope you know that marital rape is a big pandora's box when it comes to passing a judgement, now add religion into it and you have a troublesome mix for any judge.

Even in the the prescident set by the famous case of R v R [1992] 1 AC 599. Judges still find it difficult to examine a rape case in common law because of the actus and mens rea applying to the accused but also the mental and physical condition of the victim at the the time of the rape.

One famous case was in the UK where a woman was menopausal and decided to file rape charges against her husband because she did not feel like the mood for intimacy.

Needless to say if a certain amount of duress is applied to the victim and indeed if the act or omission is against the true wishes of the victim then punishment should be just and swift, in the case of marital cases it is seldom very difficult to decide in favour of either party.

Very interesting to see how this develops in the longer run.
 
WTF!!!! How can a husband rape his wife!! :what::what:

According to common law if the woman says no to an act of intimacy and the husband forces his way, then that act is considered an act of rape since the woman did not willingly participate in the said action.

Obviously there is a certain room for interpretation of this. The most notable case on the matter is that of R v R [1992] 1 AC 599. I suggest you goggle it, makes for interesting reading.
 
Clearly we all follow Islam according to our own liking, rather than leading a life according to Islam's liking. Such is the sad state of affairs and the Islamic scholars share the blame for this situation along with the common Muslim.

Following Islam according to one's convenience will result in such issues.

However can someone tell me about how many 'rapes' within marriage occur amongst the population of other religious beliefs and how many are sentenced. But first of all what is the punishment for marital rape?
 
"If husband calls his wife to sex and she refuses,angels will curse her all night"...
 
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Clearly we all follow Islam according to our own liking, rather than leading a life according to Islam's liking. Such is the sad state of affairs and the Islamic scholars share the blame for this situation along with the common Muslim.

Following Islam according to one's convenience will result in such issues.

However can someone tell me about how many 'rapes' within marriage occur amongst the population of other religious beliefs and how many are sentenced. But first of all what is the punishment for marital rape?

as of today, no other religion tries to get its god's misogynist law implemented parallel to common law.
 
lol there is no debate , it clearly state obvious

1. It does not states , that Male can have non consentual intercourse
clearly states , man "sleeps" meaning with out intercourse from
his wife.

The marrige suffers as a results of this rift between married couples

2 . Also , all faiths also agree importance of healthy "married life"
between couples. So couple should have healthy , unions

;) Beating someone to have sex is not act of a normal married life
also proven from statement one , that Man Sleeps with out having any intercorse with women.

Stop twisting common sense - Sharia law is quite harmless unless if you do stupid stuff like stealing or murder
 
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GTF outa here man you have no business humiliating any aspect of the religion.....Sahi Bukhari is followed by tens of millions of muslims.....leaving the debate on the mentioned Hadith aside, be it true or false in your opinion, labelling angels even in a jokingly way like you did is NOT ACCEPTABLE. You are not only derailing the thread but might be hurting those who are even slightest of religious people
 
shut thr fcuk up, do you want me to start bashing Hinduim? Dont make comments on Hadiths, understand me now or dont cry later :devil:

you should make a separate thread to point out the shortcomings of hinduism. that would be most welcome.

i see nothing wrong with criticism of classical islam's viewpoints on women, which is relevant to this thread.

the judgement has been overturned anyway and no longer sets a precedent of using religious and cultural defenses for accusations of rape and assault which is good.
 
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