Z-8 and Z-18 transport helicopter thread

[Zarvan]

But this one will help replace Mi-17s and rely on Russians.

Yes 100 of these could be good for Pakistan Army

 

[DANGER-ZONE]

@Oscar @Horus ..... Bhai ye Nishan k sath sath Zarwan ka dimag bhe karab ho gaya hai.
Please do something about these wish listing, its really annoying.

 

[Genesis]

I would prefer the Transport helicopter Turkey is looking to build which is similar to Black HAWK and in really large numbers @Hakan @Neptune

You mean this?

Z-20, better than Blackhawk, mostly because it's designed and made recently.

 

[Zarvan]

You mean this?

Z-20, better than Blackhawk, mostly because it's designed and made recently.

Yes similar but Turkey will be able to put more western parts in there ones @danger Zone We nees really large number of both Teansport and Attack helicopters so in case of war we can move the troops in large numbers

 

[592257001]

Not going to help China much regarding the highlighted.

Anyone who has ever been in a helo, either as a beneficiary of its many capabilities or even as a tourist, usually develops a new appreciation for the aircraft they never gave much thought before. The helo is often called 'The God Machine' or an angel or other variants of some divine creatures for good reasons. And the people who appreciates the helo the most are medical people and their charges.

That said...The reason why the Z-18, and it looks to be a capable medium transport helo, may not help China much is because internal Chinese airspace is still under strict military control. Of all the man-made flying machines, the helo is the most suitable and most amenable to civil aviation.

Medical emergencies, even when it is a positive thing like delivering a baby, are unexpected events that should NOT require filed flight plans before executions. Civil aviation is the best community to respond to these events. These events require the air ambulance to move in forward flight as soon as safety allows, which is between 100 to 1000 meters altitude and below most radars. You do not know if the victim is bleeding out or not, do not know if there are any internal injuries, you have very little information about the target landing area and must have faith on local authorities, and you must fly even if all you can do is drop the medic or just medical supplies. There is no time to call Beijing for permission to take off. These emergencies also require direct routes flight, not controlled air corridors that may involve altitude and heading changes. How many lives could have been saved if the Sichuan earthquake was accessible by civil aviation ?

Official Chinese New Article: 西安将试点放开1000米以下低空空域 市民可空中游古城_新华网陕西频道
English Version: Opening of China’s low-altitude airspace to boost general aviation, ignores expanding civil aviation | CAPA - Centre for Aviation

It's good that you pointed out the 100-1000 meter altitude for the use of Civil Aviation, as China is opening up its airspace of that range as per this news article.

If you are trying to suggest that the Chinese relief effort is hampered by the lack of an organized civil rescue operation similar to that of STARS in Canada, then I have to suggest you to look it up, as the Chinese does not have a lack of such organization. There's also absolutely no need for these helicopters to have to "request permission from Beijing" while undergone rescue ops. (Of course there are still restricted military zones within China).

The main reason why China is just starting to open up its airspace for civil aviation is because China has 1/70 the amount of general aviation pilots the US does, so the need has just came up.

All in all, what AgnetOrange said about "China is still deficient in helicopters for disaster relief." is very much so correct, though I feel the addition of pilots would also be of great help.

 

[Mughal-Prince]

The main reason why China is just starting to open up its airspace for civil aviation is because China has 1/70 the amount of general aviation pilots the US does, so the need has just came up.

All in all, what AgnetOrange said about "China is still deficient in helicopters for disaster relief." is very much so correct, though I feel the addition of pilots would also be of great help.

Any opportunity in this region for international helo pilots .

 

[592257001]

Any opportunity in this region for international helo pilots .

Plenty, since China has a shortage of skilled civil helo pilots, international pilots would be very much so welcomed.

 

[Talwar e Pakistan]

The last pic is probably the most sexiest transport helicopter I've every seen.

 

[Akasa]

Z-20, better than Blackhawk, mostly because it's designed and made recently.

As if the Black Hawk hasn't undergone incremental upgrades...

 

[BoQ77]

You mean this?

Z-20, better than Blackhawk, mostly because it's designed and made recently.

"better" ? what "better", real or planned performance ?

 

[Mughal-Prince]

Plenty, since China has a shortage of skilled civil helo pilots, international pilots would be very much so welcomed.

What about wages and if I am in a process of learning then ??

 

[Genesis]

What about wages and if I am in a process of learning then ??

very high, potentially higher than America, if the current airliner pilots are any indication.

 

[Irfan Baloch]

I would prefer the Transport helicopter Turkey is looking to build which is similar to Black HAWK and in really large numbers @Hakan @Neptune

If that carries any American components like T 129 then it wont happen like ATAK coptef cant be procured due to American powerplant

 

[Mughal-Prince]

very high, potentially higher than America, if the current airliner pilots are any indication.

Any age restriction??

 

[Deino]

A new image ....