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Three planes in the works for test flights planned for next year

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Xi Jinping boards a demonstration prototype of the C919, during an inspection of Shanghai's Commercial Aircraft Corp of China, which is developing on the project. [Photo/Xinhua]


China must develop its own large passenger jetliner no matter how difficult this may be, President Xi Jinping said.

Chinese engineers are struggling to stick to the development schedule, and obstacles have recently pushed back domestic models' maiden flights.

Xi made the comments during an inspection of Shanghai's Commercial Aircraft Corp of China, which is working on the C919. He said the country must spare no effort to build a strong manufacturing industry and develop its own large aircraft so China can become a real world power.

"In the past, someone said the best choice for us is to rent (passenger aircraft) from others and then to buy (them), and that the last option is to make our own," the president told the company's engineers on May 23.

"But we have reversed this notion. We will invest more to develop and produce our own large aircraft."

Xi boarded a demonstration prototype of the C919 and sat in the first-class cabin to feel how comfortable the seat is, Xinhua News Agency reported.

Company executives also showed Xi the piloting instruments' layout in the cockpit.

The president also talked with several test pilots, who briefed him on the global flight tour that tested the performance of the ARJ21, China's domestically developed regional airliner.

Standing in front of a crowd of researchers and engineers, Xi said the nation's aviation industry is rising after decades of difficulties.

"Now we have made new strides along the path of (developing) large aircraft, and we must — and will — make our own large jetliner."

"Large aircraft" are big transport planes that can carry at least 100 tons or trunk liners containing over 150 seats, senior Chinese aviation official Liu Daxiang told Xinhua.

Launched in 2008, the C919 project is the country's latest attempt to break the duopoly of Europe's Airbus and the United States' Boeing. The aircraft is set to compete against the Airbus A320, the Boeing 737 and the Russian Irkut MS-21.

It will be able to carry up to 168 passengers and will have a maximum flight range of about 5,500 kilometers.

COMAC originally planned for the jetliner to undertake its maiden flight in 2014.

But the plan has been postponed due to Chinese engineers' lack of experience and technical obstacles, project officials said.

The company's latest timetable says the maiden flight is expected to take place in 2015, with the first deliveries scheduled for 2017.

COMAC executive Tian Min explained that a large jetliner is the modern world's most sophisticated industrial product.

Therefore, its development requires the highest levels of project management, and technological and manufacturing capabilities. Yet China remains weak in these areas.

Also, many new materials and cutting-edge manufacturing techniques have been used to develop the C919. This has added to the complexity and risks, and requires more time for testing, he said.

Han Kecen, vice-president of COMAC's Shanghai Aircraft Design and Research Institute, said China developed all the C919's core technologies.

The first large part of the C919 — the forward fuselage, which is the plane's front section and includes the first-class cabin — rolled off the assembly line at Hongdu Aviation Industry Group in Jiangxi province early this month. It will soon be delivered to COMAC.

The forward fuselage consists of more than 1,600 parts and is made of third-generation aluminum-lithium alloy. This is the first time the alloy has been used in a Chinese commercial aircraft.

Meanwhile, COMAC has begun to manufacture the airframes of the first three C919s that will perform test flights. Assembly of the first one will begin by year-end, COMAC deputy general manager Wu Guanghui said.

The company has already received 400 C919 orders from 16 domestic and foreign clients.

The number of passenger aircraft in China will rise from 1,969 in 2012 to 6,494 in 2032, accounting for 17 percent of the global total, the company estimated.

Chinese enterprises and individuals are expected to purchase 5,357 aircraft with at least 50 seats worth a total of $647 billion in that period, it forecast.
 
Amazing, I can't wait to take a ride in a C919 passenger aircraft from Hong Kong to Beijing. :china:

Chinese enterprises and individuals are expected to purchase 5,357 aircraft with at least 50 seats worth a total of $647 billion in that period, it forecast.

Incredible. Domestic demand alone will be enough to make the C919 a roaring economic success. Our internal market is just so massive.
 
'China must develop its own large passenger jetliner no matter how difficult this may be, President Xi Jinping said.'

This mindset explains the Chinese code of success.

We already had the Boeing 707 equivalent passenger plane back in the early 1980s, but too bad it got scrapped due the limited fund.
 
Very encouraging.

There is a huge political will behind the project.

Impossible to be unsuccessful.

Hopefully, COMAC will monopolize, at least, China's domestic market.

If the Y-10 wasn't scrapped, China's passenger plane capability would not lag a lot behind the US.

This was the mistake made by Deng.
 
Very encouraging.

There is a huge political will behind the project.

Impossible to be unsuccessful.

Hopefully, COMAC will monopolize, at least, China's domestic market.

The domestic market alone is enough, the three largest companies in the world are mainly focused on the Chinese domestic market:

The World’s Biggest Public Companies List - Forbes

And the domestic market can act as a "springboard" into the rest of the world, once they see how strong and competitive this product is.
 
It got delayed a bit due the event of MH370, since China now wanna get rid of those western components including the jet engine.

For now, the maiden flight is due in 2016, and the flight service will start by 2018.

I want it now though. :woot:

Anyway, 2018 is not too long to wait. I am really looking forward to it. :D

I'm tired of the Airbus-Boeing Duopoly, hopefully we can eat into their market share across the world in big chunks.

I know we can be more competitive than them.
 
I want it now though. :woot:

Anyway, 2018 is not too long to wait. I am really looking forward to it. :D

I'm tired of the Airbus-Boeing Duopoly, hopefully we can eat into their market share across the world in big chunks.

I know we can be more competitive than them.

I am still pissed about the fate of the Y-10.

If it wasn't scrapped, we would already have our own version of Boeing 747 by now. :hitwall:
 
It got delayed a bit due the event of MH370, since China now wanna get rid of those western components including the jet engine.

For now, the maiden flight is due in 2016, and the flight service will start by 2018.
Not that soon , 2018 is too optimistic
 
Russia, China Plan Joint Widebody Effort

Russo-Chinese widebody could begin service in 2023-25

In about three years, according to current plans, Russia and China will each begin delivering a national narrowbody airliner, the Irkut MS-21 and Comac C919, respectively. And 6-8 years later, they may have a jointly developed widebody ready for service.

These plans are maturing as Comac continues to struggle with the C919. Challenged in obtaining FAA endorsement of the C919's intended Chinese certification, the manufacturer is raising the possibility of alternative approval from the European Aviation Safety Agency (EASA).

A feasibility study for the widebody will be finished within a few months, after which the program will be ready for launch, Mikhail Pogosyan, president of Irkut owner United Aircraft Corp. (UAC), tells Aviation Week. The target for entry into service is 2023-25. “The long-range widebody aircraft segment is quite interesting for us,” Pogosyan says. “But we should study the market very closely and define clearly the level of technology we need . . . to enter a very competitive market with a product that provides qualitatively new solutions.”

The widebody studies have focused on an aircraft rather like the Airbus A330, say industry executives in China. Comac thinks airlines will need a replacement for that Airbus type next decade. That implies competition with the 787, a seemingly daunting challenge, but the Russo-Chinese aircraft will have access to technology, especially for propulsion, more than a decade newer than that available to the Boeing type when the 787 was launched in 2004.

Pogosyan does not mention a specific Chinese partner for the widebody, but it must be Comac, with which the Russian state company signed an agreement in 2012 to study joint development of a widebody aircraft. The program, targeting domestic and export markets, calls for Chinese involvement from design to after-sales support. The Russian government's Aircraft 2020 program can support technological development, says Pogosyan. UAC estimates airlines globally will need 8,000 airliners in the 20 years to 2033, including 1,000 in China.

The MS-21 and C919 programs are moving ahead in parallel. Pogosyan says Irkut has begun building flight and static test prototypes of the MS-21; the government says the first flight is due at the end of 2015 and deliveries in 2017.

Comac is also aiming for the C919 to make its first flight by the end of 2015, which implies a 2017 entry into service, one year later than first planned, although industry officials close to the program would not be surprised by further slippage, to 2018. Supplier management has been a particular problem. “They need really more experienced program management, and they're poking around and trying to find that experience and bring that in-house,” says Chaker Chahrour, executive vice president of the C919's engine supplier, CFM.

Comac and suppliers have begun making detail parts for the first C919, Dang Tiehong, deputy general manager of Comac's sales and marketing department, told reporters at the Singapore Airshow last week. “Our current plan is to begin final assembly at the end of this year, and we will make our best effort to make the first flight by the end of next year.”

As the first C919 begins to come together late in 2014, the first operational unit of its ARJ21 regional jet sibling should be handed over to Chengdu Airlines, a carrier from southwestern China that belongs to Comac. Chengdu will then need some time to prepare for operations, which it has said will begin in April or May 2015, fully 13 years after program launch.

The C919 program originally relied on timely ARJ21 certification—by the Civil Aviation Administration of China (CAAC) with FAA supervision—to pioneer U.S. acceptance of Chinese type certificates. But to keep C919 development moving ahead, the CAAC has had to act on that program without waiting for ARJ21 certification, with the result that if the FAA is to endorse the C919's Chinese certification, then it will have to retrospectively recognize years of CAAC work.

“It is not smooth sailing right now between the CAAC and FAA on when they come together,” says Chahrour. “It is a resources issue for the FAA,” he adds, referring to the effort that would be needed to review the CAAC's work on the C919. “They have to come to a deal where the CAAC does most of the work and the FAA is satisfied.” FAA endorsement of the C919 is an inter-government matter, Dang says, apparently referring to the same question of resources.

Dang and Comac CFO Tian Min raise the possibility of EASA endorsement of the type certificate instead. However, EASA is even less familiar with the CAAC's processes for commercial aircraft certification than the FAA.
 

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