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Wow! Journalists on Government Payroll are Tweeting Against Serving Pak Army Generals

People on government payroll tweeting against serving Lt. General of Pakistan Army. I am sure they want to create internal conflict between different Lt. Gens.

Alas! It was the last organization with some integrity left...






When NS family is caught with overseas property, he says he doesn't have any relation with his children's business. When a family member of a Lt. Gen tweets about government's corruption, government Media cell holds Lt. General responsible...

We are in a deep trouble.... May Allah save us...

@Farah Sohail @Verve @Knight Rider @Emmie @El_Swordsmen @Doordie @war&peace @PaklovesTurkiye @Moonlight @The Sandman
They will not come to know from where and who hit them.
 
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He did a great job to restore the country's faith in her forces... they are some envious and disgruntled people who weren't allowed to raise their heads during his tenure...now these serpents are raising their heads...they'd soon be crushed!
 
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I think some people are not happy the way Gen Asim Bajwa expose Indian Sirgkal strike. Setup conference right on place where Indian claim Sirgkal strike. On top he invited journalist all over the world.

King and crown prince dealing with CM of provinces .

3 CM between two idiots .

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I say we should shrink our army in numbers reduce their budget to 1-2 billion$ and let us turn Pakistan into a syria libya or palestine like country's? maybe than these army haters will get happy? shame on these so called "liberals" "jorunalists" who hate army just because it's "cool" or demonize them because of $$$ shame on you for continuously trying to demoralize your army while they're fighting a fking war they're dying for you so that you can sleep in peace in your luxurious homes idiots if you can't appreciate them than at least don't demoralize them you idiots our army needs our support to fight those scums.
"lakh di lanat" on this retard.
 
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ISPR can do bullshit propaganda and give lifafas to anchors like Mubashir Luqman, Dr. Danish and Dr. Shahid Masood

But

If civilians do the same, then tattoos of the army start whining and labelling them as traitors.

Pakistan army does not deserve any respect in the light of its 70 years history. Respect is earned not demanded.

Maybe we should disband the army and let your altafi tattus like you go fight n get killed or handicapped ... Maybe you can kill terrorists and Indians with your nuclear farts and verbal diarrhoea.
 
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Maybe we should disband the army and let your altafi tattus like you go fight n get killed or handicapped ... Maybe you can kill terrorists and Indians with your nuclear farts and verbal diarrhoea.

The thing is that the army can't win. It simply can't bcz the thinking and political mindset of the nation is severely divided towards the point of extremist thinking ( extremism is not terrorism not religious but takes shapes in many forms which include liberal, secular as well as political).

You have one group that wants the army to be completely obedient to the government and will praise the army when they take steps towards this development.

You have one group that doesn't want the army under the government and wants them to be the danda for the government.

You have the extreme liberal group that simply hate the armed forces. They have never liked them consider it an equivalent of a PhD and a right of intellectualism if they criticize the armed forces.

Then we have the political group that believes it has been wronged by the army and its supporters attack any action that is taken against them by the army no matter how justified.

Then we have the political group that has rounded their politics on curbing the army and showcase themselves as the victim of dictators.

Then we have the political group that believes that we are alone right and noble and if the army does not support us then the army is wrong as well.

Then we have the group that within their political affiliation attack the army for not grabbing the sitting and elected prime minister, ministers and president and throw them in jail without any verdict from the court of law of pakistan.

Then we have the martial law lovers who want the army to overthrow the sitting government and govern themselves or bring in new politicians. They don't care if this will harm pakistan or not.

Then there are the religious groups who don't trust the army bcz the army has attacked then previously due to their support for terror groups. They want yhr army to support them.

Then we have the terrorist supporters who sympathize with terrorists like lal masjids or a few who have ethnic closeness to the terrorists and thus supported their actions against the armed forces.

Then we have the opportunist who sorround their fame by attacking the army for their own incompetence.


You see each of these groups have supporters and each of them follow distinct leaders. The problem is that the thinking of each of these groups is so varied that any action the army takes towards any point of thought pisses off the rest. Even simply ignoring the politics and securing the border is not acceptable to many groups.

The problem is that we are so extremist and different in our thinking that we cannot comprehend what, where, why, when, how. We just can't do that.

We are a nation of sheep. We follow distinct, not wolves, but sheep who the rest of the sheep have given power on a pedestal. The sheep takes the rest of the sheep to follow and they follow.

When we pushed back ethniciam, when we combatted provincialism, when we fought against religious differences and threw back sectarianism, we brought forward political extremism. I am starting to think that we simply don't like being united. We can't have everybody agreeing and there must be disagreement and when disagreements happen then abuse shortly follows ( due to extremism and lack of respect of others opinion) and then the tags of traitors are distributed.

Maybe I am wrong and overthinking.

@Zaki @WAJsal @Arsalan what do you guys think?
 
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A Punjab inside India wasnt what we Muslims wanted we were barely able to get aajority to part our ways in a bloody and unjust partition

Please read some history before passing statements. The Quaid's and the M. League's primary demand was of a decentralised united India. The Muslims were idiots who even then didn't realise what was going on and were amply happy just sitting in their homes. Thank the 'kafir-e-azam' who did it for us all, otherwise the maulana sahiban had left no effort in destroying us.


ISPR can do bullshit propaganda and give lifafas to anchors like Mubashir Luqman, Dr. Danish and Dr. Shahid Masood

But

If civilians do the same, then tattoos of the army start whining and labelling them as traitors.

So you admit that this and your Jabbathehut of a 'leader's' statements are deliberate propaganda against one of the State's most vital institutions? Now that we've gotten that cleared, please do show us which ISPR propaganda are you exactly talking about.

Pakistan army does not deserve any respect in the light of its 70 years history. Respect is earned not demanded.

It's not expected from traitorous morons either......or sheep.
 
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RIP morality and Common sense which is not available in Pakistan. I am unable to find any propaganda but ISPR is a propaganda center where in world army run a public relation media center? Every press release should come by proper channel and ISPR should stop funding few media houses.

BTW, if you think they are on payroll then i think our army is also on govt's payroll :what:. Oh i forget, our so called PAAK army has their own businesses in pakistan in every domain be it agri culture to avaiation.

Grow up kid and try to absorb reality.
babooni bs no one
Many countries have army public relation wings that include IndiaIndia
Babooni bs no two just cuz some channels are anti baboon that diesnot mean they are being funded by ISPR

Babooni bs no 3 govt is using its state resources to malign Army is it really a wise thing to do when war is knocking our door at loc?
I know you guys are super pro India and even blame dead Pakistanis for living on loc but think for a second would you?
 
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Twitter seems to be where many start to grow some balls. Do they dare do it in Pindi in front of them, if they had the chance? I think not. Don't mess around with Pindi boys:P
 
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I say we should shrink our army in numbers reduce their budget to 1-2 billion$ and let us turn Pakistan into a syria libya or palestine like country's? maybe than these army haters will get happy? shame on these so called "liberals" "jorunalists" who hate army just because it's "cool" or demonize them because of $$$ shame on you for continuously trying to demoralize your army while they're fighting a fking war they're dying for you so that you can sleep in peace in your luxurious homes idiots if you can't appreciate them than at least don't demoralize them you idiots our army needs our support to fight those scums.
"lakh di lanat" on this retard.
My friend don't worry we are heading the same way. Our government is ensuring it through its hit man, who is eroding our economy to the maximum.

You have one group that doesn't want the army under the government and wants them to be the danda for the government.

With current set of political activist (i am not using word leader deliberately, as leadership means something different altogether.) we need to have some one keeping a check on these maroons.

You have the extreme liberal group that simply hate the armed forces. They have never liked them consider it an equivalent of a PhD and a right of intellectualism if they criticize the armed forces.

These are the rootless group of idiots who have lost their identity in love of west or in some cases east. As far intellectualism and qualification is concerned, i would like people to see job section of any newspaper. See those ads which says retired armed forces officer will be preferred. Now do an investigation on the company. You will find that they have problem in their organisation which they want resolved. Armed forces are one of most well read and educated people in this country. Their carrier is studies studies and studies. May it be international relations, governance, leadership, management, organisational behaviour, etc etc etc. Interestingly, terms used in modern business education like canaling or retrenchment or frontal attack. All these come from military terms. SunTzu is considered to be an authority on management and strategy (well this term has also come from armed forces) He authored The Art of War which being used as reference in politics, business, sports culture, etc etc.
Today we all reap benefit of internet. But very few know that this platform was developed for military used. All developments take place to be employed for military use, later its benefit trickle down to common man. Military has always been the source of power for empires. If you have a glance at olden days, King had to be best in the art of war and reins of power had always been in the hand of generals of that time. This democracy is a way to make fool of the people to satisfy their lust for power without going through any hardship. Like Bilow Rani who has lived outside Pakistan through out his life had been queuing at coffee shops to order. Today he has come back Pakistan to fool illiterate people in the name of Bhutto. Have you ever heard how he is begging for vote. I am grandson of Bhutto and son of Benazir give me vote to become prime minister and words to that effect. He has nothing to his credential to claim throne.

So is the Shariff family. Mariam was a sort of drop out from KE, which she joined not on merit but on governor's reserved seat.

Then we have the political group that believes it has been wronged by the army and its supporters attack any action that is taken against them by the army no matter how justified.

These genetic garbage have never compared Pakistan's progress during military regimes with their own, the worst of it was Zia ul Haq but better then any of the political governments. I in no way defend military regime, but would not shy away from speaking the truth also. Each time military government came it, it release Pakistan from IMF clutches and immediately after that these looters have borrowed again.
 
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Army fan boys must get used to freedom of speech. Army's behaviour is sanctimonious and disgustingly self-righteous. The time has come, that these over-glorified salaried security guards are put in their right place.

The more the military establishment tries to act as a HOLY ENTITY, the more it is going to be mocked. So it is in the military's interest that they stay away from the political sphere so that they are not criticised. The glory days of the 80s and 90s are long gone. In the internet age, the Army cannot hoodwink the population into thinking that they are some awesome fighting machine.

Nawaz was brought up by the same Army. Hameed Gul confessed that he gave money to create IJI against Benazir Bhutto. Recently, General Pasha was shamelessly propping up PTI while suicide bombers were exploding daily in all corners of the country. Has some fan boy dared to ask their Army to hold these spy chiefs accountable?

So when fanboys talk about Ganja Nawaz, they should be honest enough to also talk about that idiot Hameed Gul. The same goes for the youthiya cricketer and Gen. Pasha. Both Ganja and Idiot Khan are PRODUCTS of the Army.

Regarding its own sphere, it has so many failures (Kashmir, 1965, 1971, Siachen, Kargil, WoT, religious extremism) that their claim of being better than a civilian institution is LAUGHABLE. Even WAPDA has better performance than the Army. :lol::lol: Perhaps, only Pakistan Steel has a poorer performance.

Raheel Sharif was less action and more media appearances. ISPR's stupid gimmicks can only be popular among fan boys but not sensible people. Thanks God, this CELEBRITY general is gone. Every day, he was posing in front of cameras and acting as if he was some SUPREME LEADER of the country.
 
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Army fan boys must get used to freedom of speech. Army's behaviour is sanctimonious and disgustingly self-righteous. The time has come, that these over-glorified salaried security guards are put in their right place.

The more the military establishment tries to act as a HOLY ENTITY, the more it is going to be mocked. So it is in the military's interest that they stay away from the political sphere so that they are not criticised. The glory days of the 80s and 90s are long gone. In the internet age, the Army cannot hoodwink the population into thinking that they are some awesome fighting machine.

Nawaz was brought up by the same Army. Hameed Gul confessed that he gave money to create IJI against Benazir Bhutto. Recently, General Pasha was shamelessly propping up PTI while suicide bombers were exploding daily in all corners of the country. Has some fan boy dared to ask their Army to hold these spy chiefs accountable?

So when fanboys talk about Ganja Nawaz, they should be honest enough to also talk about that idiot Hameed Gul. The same goes for the youthiya cricketer and Gen. Pasha. Both Ganja and Idiot Khan are PRODUCTS of the Army.

Regarding its own sphere, it has so many failures (Kashmir, 1965, 1971, Siachen, Kargil, WoT, religious extremism) that their claim of being better than a civilian institution is LAUGHABLE. Even WAPDA has better performance than the Army. :lol::lol: Perhaps, only Pakistan Steel has a poorer performance.

Raheel Sharif was less action and more media appearances. ISPR's stupid gimmicks can only be popular among fan boys but not sensible people. Thanks God, this CELEBRITY general is gone. Every day, he was posing in front of cameras and acting as if he was some SUPREME LEADER of the country.
The amount of propaganda in this post is nauseating.

If civilian politicians were anywhere near competent and slightly less corrupt, the Army would not be interfering in politics at all. Have you noticed how every time there is a military coup, it has public support? That's because the military only takes over when the politicians fail badly.

The likes of Bhutto, Nawaz and Zardari have been taking turns at looting the country for decades - when the Army takes over, there's stagnation, but not destruction. Eventually people become sick of stagnation and the civilians return, and the cycle begins once again.

The only way to break this cycle is to bring accountability in civilian institutions and strengthen them, improving tax collection, fund basic state-run facilities like healthcare, transport and education - instead of selling them to the PM's personal friends or otherwise privatizing them which leads to more money going to the rich and more unemployment because private companies have only one goal, profit.

Once civilian govt is accountable, then they can demand accountability from Army, if needed.

The only politician in favour of solving those problems is Imran Khan, but you reject him for no good reason other than that he was supposedly backed by the Army.

Zardari is corrupt. Nawaz is corrupt and 'created by Army'.

Who's left then, MQM? Nope, they're more interested in being a mafia and their leader is more interested in drinking and Money Laundering in London than he is in helping Pakistanis.

Maulana Diesel? No thanks.

Sahib, aap itne tez hain toh apni jamaat bana lein.

Recently, General Pasha was shamelessly propping up PTI while suicide bombers were exploding daily in all corners of the country. Has some fan boy dared to ask their Army to hold these spy chiefs accountable?
For every attack that took place, ten attacks were prevented. Protection against internal threats is supposed to be the job of civilian institutions anyway.

Regarding its own sphere, it has so many failures (Kashmir, 1965, 1971, Siachen, Kargil, WoT, religious extremism) that their claim of being better than a civilian institution is LAUGHABLE.
Half of Kashmir is Azad, Lahore was defended successfully in 65, Zarb-e-Azb has reduced terrorism by 70%.
71 was a Civil War caused by politics and ethnic conflict - not Army's fault.

As for "religious extremism", what do you want the Army to do, fire artillery at it? It's an idea, a series of beliefs. The Army can't fight that directly. The most you can do, aside from trying to fix root causes by providing education, is arrest clerics.

Raheel Sharif was less action and more media appearances.
Oh really?
https://www.thenews.com.pk/print/139184-Over-15000-hate-mongers-arrested-in-18-months
https://www.thenews.com.pk/print/14...tion-in-terror-attacks-in-Pakistan-after-2014

The Army is the only thing holding Pakistan together right now.

The only ones acting "sanctimonious and disgustingly self-righteous" are keyboard warriors like you, offering absolutely no solutions and only serving to undermine Pakistan.
 
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The amount of propaganda in this post is nauseating.

If civilian politicians were anywhere near competent and slightly less corrupt, the Army would not be interfering in politics at all. Have you noticed how every time there is a military coup, it has public support? That's because the military only takes over when the politicians fail badly.

I take it you are not familiar with the history of Pakistan politics at all. Army interfered because democratic elected governments were becoming more popular than Army. Army doesn't like it when democracy becomes more popular than Army. The pattern of Pakistan army interference has been duly noticed at the time democracy was starting to stabilize.

Democracy has public support, but military coup doesn't, and in fact, its imposes its ruling against the wills of the people of the nation. Do you understand how democracy work? People vote for democratic elected government, not Army leaders except General Raheel Shareef which i believe might not be majority's elected since majority still believe it should be democracy right to rule over Marshall Law.

The likes of Bhutto, Nawaz and Zardari have been taking turns at looting the country for decades - when the Army takes over, there's stagnation, but not destruction. Eventually people become sick of stagnation and the civilians return, and the cycle begins once again.

Misinformed post.

Nawaz had barely completed his two previous terms. Do you understand the definition of decade? It means 10 years.
Nawaz Sharif had one year ruling in his first term, one and half in second and almost interrupted within a year in his 3rd term if it wasn't for understanding between General Raheel Sharif and Nawaz Sharif.

Even Benazir had 5 years ruling only. His father? Not so much, and to the extent, Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto, who was voted by people, was hanged to death by Pakistan army in order to overtake the democracy and implement Marshall Law against the wills of the nation.

Democracy didn't rule much, and nor utilized the power to the full with Pakistan army consistently breathing on the neck of Democracy elected leaders voted by majority votes.

Marshall Law had started on the bad note with the Sister of the founder of the nation that overtook democracy and installed Marshall Law against the wills of the people. During Marshall Law, Pakistan lost IOK to India, East Pakistan to Bangladesh, and almost lost Pakistan as whole during 1965 when plan backfired. The economy plunged down from the economical rising star in 60's titled as Tiger in the Asian economical world which Turkey and South Korea modeled after their economical plan at one point.

Democracy took over and stabilized the nation. As soon as the economy was stabilized, Marshall Law took over again, and that was at the expense of Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto who was hanged to death by Pakistan army in order to install Marshall Law against the wills of the people. I don't need to remind you what happened next - to the extent the economy went down the hill again.

The only way to break this cycle is to bring accountability in civilian institutions and strengthen them, improving tax collection, fund basic state-run facilities like healthcare, transport and education - instead of selling them to the PM's personal friends or otherwise privatizing them which leads to more money going to the rich and more unemployment because private companies have only one goal, profit.

It was always Marshall Law that ruled Pakistan most of times since 1947. From Ayub Khan to Yahya Kha, from Zia-ul-Haq to Musharraf ruling their terms close to at least 10 years individually. Every times, the economy of the nation went down the hill considering they knew nothing about the economy - to the extent Musharraf escaped with the great difficulty due to the generous aid in the middle of his term.

As soon as Musharraf left, the economy was left in shatter replaced by Zardari in agreement with the deal with Musharraf for his exit plan.

Now democracy is back to stabilize the economy again, but for how long until Marshall Law take over again?

Once civilian govt is accountable, then they can demand accountability from Army, if needed.

Only democratic elected governments had been accounted to death in the history of Pakistan politics while Pakistan generals had been accountable-free.

Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto was hanged to death. Nawaz Sharif was almost hanged to death after his second term that was ended abruptly within a year and half thank to Marshall Law imposing its authority against the wills of the people.

Never once Pakistan generals have been accounted for corruption, blunders of the decisions such as 1971 which recorded allegation of mass genocide under the leadership of Pakistan General. Even today, Musharraf got away accountable-free.

That is why i am against Marshall Law since they can do it anything and get away easily without being accounted.

As for the rest of your post, MQM was planted by Pakistan army. Everything to this date planted by Army except Imran Khan, although Imran Khan had been used as factor to pressurize PMLN into power-sharing agreement with Pakistan army suggest Pakistan army shall command over the foreign policy hence no sign of foreign policy minister of PMLN since Pakistan Army will be controlling the foreign policy.


The only ones acting "sanctimonious and disgustingly self-righteous" are keyboard warriors like you, offering absolutely no solutions and only serving to undermine Pakistan.

The solution is there. Stop interfering the democracy. Let the democracy runs its own course instead of implementing Marshall Law against the wills of the people. Pakistan army has been great helpful for Pakistan, but Marshall Law through the installation of Pakistan Generals had been disaster in the history of Pakistan, to the extent lost IOK to India and East Pakistan to Bangladesh, and almost lost Pakistan in 1965. Not to mention, they left the economy in ruins at the end of their terms only to democracy starts over from the scratch to stabilize the economy.

Surprisingly, when it comes to the action of Pakistan army, people turn blind. That is not helpful at all, and precisely why Pakistan has not been able to enjoy the democracy running its course interruption-free.
 
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I take it you are not familiar with the history of Pakistan politics at all. Army interfered because democratic elected governments were becoming more popular than Army. Army doesn't like it when democracy becomes more popular than Army. The pattern of Pakistan army interference has been duly noticed at the time democracy was starting to stabilize.

Democracy has public support, but military coup doesn't, and in fact, its imposes its ruling against the wills of the people of the nation. Do you understand how democracy work? People vote for democratic elected government, not Army leaders except General Raheel Shareef which i believe might not be majority's elected since majority still believe it should be democracy right to rule over Marshall Law.
If that is true, I have only one question to ask - why was every coup in Pakistan's history completely bloodless? Surely if the civilian leaders were so popular, and democracy was stabilized, any military coup attempt would face public backlash - but it never did.

In fact, people were celebrating on the streets when Musharraf took over. Nawaz Sharif's popularity was at an all-time low - even Western media reported it.
BBC Article from October 13, 1999:
the popularity of the Sharif government was plunging amid an economic slump - foreign debt totalling $32bn - and a law and order crisis. Opposition figures allege that such was the prime minister's unpopularity that members of his own parliamentary party now began to conspire with the military..

Marshall Law had started on the bad note with the Sister of the founder of the nation that overtook democracy and installed Marshall Law against the wills of the people.
Actually Martial Law started when Mirza declared it in 1958. The Fatima Jinnah vs Ayub "election" was in 1965.

During Marshall Law, Pakistan lost IOK to India, East Pakistan to Bangladesh, and almost lost Pakistan as whole during 1965 when plan backfired.
What? The 1965 war resulted in no permanent territorial change, Pakistan never lost any part of Kashmir to India. Azad Kashmir has been Azad since 1948 and IOK has been IOK since 1948.

Pakistan successfully defended Lahore in 1965. It was never "close to losing all of Pakistan during 1965".

I take it you are not familiar with the history of the 1965 war at all.
The economy plunged down from the economical rising star in 60's titled as Tiger in the Asian economical world which Turkey and South Korea modeled after their economical plan at one point..
You are right, Pakistan in the 60s was a rising star. Ayub Khan ruled during the 60s. Thank you for making my point.

Ayub Khan
ایوب خان
2nd President of Pakistan
In office
27 October 1958 – 25 March 1969

For someone who claims to be "familiar with the history of Pakistan politics", you seem to be very ill-informed, especially considering that you could have gotten that information off a simple google search.

From Ayub Khan to Yahya Kha, from Zia-ul-Haq to Musharraf ruling their terms close to at least 10 years individually. Every times, the economy of the nation went down the hill considering they knew nothing about the economy - to the extent Musharraf escaped with the great difficulty due to the generous aid in the middle of his term.

As soon as Musharraf left, the economy was left in shatter replaced by Zardari in agreement with the deal with Musharraf for his exit plan.

Now democracy is back to stabilize the economy again, but for how long until Marshall Law take over again?
Really? Do you have any data to back that up?

Let's see:
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Looking at Musharraf alone:
In the last decade, Pakistan’s economy witnessed a major economic transformation. The country’s real GDP increased from $60 billion in 2000/01 to $170 billion in 2007/08 (fiscal year starts July 1st), with per capita income rising from under $500 to over $1,000. During the same period, the volume of international trade increased from about $20 billion to nearly $60 billion. For most of this period, real GDP grew at more than 7 percent a year with relative price stability.
Source: http://www.imf.org/External/NP/LOI/2008/pak/112008.pdf

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Pakistan's HDI grew an average rate of 2.7% per year under Musharraf from 2000 to 2007. 2008 to 2012, it was 0.7%.
Source: http://hdr.undp.org/sites/default/files/reports/14/hdr2013_en_complete.pdf

In fact, someone from the London School of Economics conducted an interesting investigation back in 2009 titled 'Guarding the State or Protecting the Economy? Economic Factors of Pakistan's Military Coups'

Some extracts:

From the Abstract:
"This paper tests four economic variables - GDP, income per capita, defence spending, and export values - against the incidences of coups in Pakistan and finds that low growth rates of these variables are related to the incidence of coup d'etat in Pakistan."

From the Conclusion:
"This paper has shown that economic threats and interests (E) are in fact associated with the incidence of coups d'etat. More specifically, Pakistan's growth rates of GDP, export values and defence spending were found to be significantly lower in years immediately preceding coups than they were in all other years 1951-1998."

The solution is there. Stop interfering the democracy. Let the democracy runs its own course instead of implementing Marshall Law against the wills of the people.
Your solution is ignoring the problem. The problem is not "Martial Law against the will of the people". The problem is that Martial Law has usually been supported by the will of the people.

The problem is that Pakistan needs a proper system of governance suited to its own situation. Simply copying Western systems has never worked because their system is practically tailor-made to their own specific needs. It took hundreds of years to develop Democracy in the West. Literally hundreds of years.

Look, I'm not in favour of martial law. I would much rather have Pakistan be closer to Iqbal's vision of an Islamic Socialist Republic, with strong institutions, a parliament that actually represented the population, free healthcare, education, a welfare system, proper tax collection - all this is possible. I know Bhutto attempted nationalization etc during his rule, but he was misguided in many other ways which completely undermined his other policies, eventually leading to more harm than good.

Nationalisation and Socialism only works if those in Government are well intentioned or at least accountable

It is possible only if the civilian government acts in the interest of Pakistan and is accountable to its people.

As long as leaders are elected on the basis of ethnicity, blackmail, feudalism, or dynasty politics, this kind of "democracy" is extremely damaging for Pakistan - and, as we have seen, it leads to people seeking an alternative - which they find in the form of the Army.

Of course, some Military leaders have been ruthless opportunists - but the point is, if the government had public support, those coups would have never succeeded. Just look at Turkey's recent coup attempt - their people trusted civilian institutions enough to protest against the coup.

And lets not forget that the Army is made up of our own brothers - if the civilian government was in fact "stabilizing the economy" and doing well, military leaders would not gain support for a coup even within their own institution. Again, the recent Turkish coup is a good example as the majority of their army opposed the coup.

TL;DR: We need a better democratic system of governance in Pakistan, what we call "democracy" is in fact a mixture of feudalism and dynasty politics
 
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