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India’s defense acquisitions council has given its final approval to an agreement to purchase S-400 air defense missile systems from Russia, despite Washington’s opposition, S-400 procurement most likely will see the wrath of the United States Government on India since no exemptions were given to India not only on procurement of S-400 system but also on existing procurement plans of purchase of frigates and Joint venture with Russian companies on BrahMos-NG and BrahMos-2K .

Under the Countering America’s Adversaries through Sanctions Act (CAATSA) virtually dealings with all Russian defense companies are banned that means even procurement of any new weapons system or additional capabilities to the existing systems will attract US Scanners and it will simply be of no use for India even if it drops plans to procure S-400 from Russia .

One way or the other CAATSA will affect India’s dealing with Russia in support of existing systems in service for decades. Worst case scenarios according to Indian defense analysts are that US Defence Companies might be reframed from participating in Indian tenders clearing paths for European and Russian companies in various defense tenders which New Delhi will float in coming years.

With CAATSA Sanctions, United States wants India to slowly move away from Russia and start procuring US Arms thus boosting its own export of weapons to India but it is unlikely to happen due to trust deficit which New Delhi and Washington have harbored against each other even after both countries have concluded defence deals worth billions of dollars in last two decades .

Under provisions available in CAATSA, US Government can up its heat on India and might even force US-based Defence companies from backing off from on-going contractual obligations with defense contracts signed with New Delhi even risking providing maintenance support for the defense equipment that India has already bought from the US.

Indian Defence analysts call it Doomsdays scenario unlikely to happen but if it does become a reality then US-based Defence companies will not only be kicked out of India and Blacklisted. Angry New Delhi might even allow inspection of this sensitive systems to Russian and Europeans experts to help them manage in absence of US support which US Defence companies fear the most.

It is unlikely that US Government will carry out any such stupid moves which can harm its Interest in India but under President Donald Trump presidency almost all major American allies have seen unwanted heat from US administration and discomfort even when there are clear signs that US actions against its own allies are only helping rise of China in the new global order .
 
SOURCE: ABHOY ROY / FOR MY TAKE / IDRW.ORG

Tejas


India’s defense acquisitions council has given its final approval to an agreement to purchase S-400 air defense missile systems from Russia, despite Washington’s opposition, S-400 procurement most likely will see the wrath of the United States Government on India since no exemptions were given to India not only on procurement of S-400 system but also on existing procurement plans of purchase of frigates and Joint venture with Russian companies on BrahMos-NG and BrahMos-2K .

Under the Countering America’s Adversaries through Sanctions Act (CAATSA) virtually dealings with all Russian defense companies are banned that means even procurement of any new weapons system or additional capabilities to the existing systems will attract US Scanners and it will simply be of no use for India even if it drops plans to procure S-400 from Russia .

One way or the other CAATSA will affect India’s dealing with Russia in support of existing systems in service for decades. Worst case scenarios according to Indian defense analysts are that US Defence Companies might be reframed from participating in Indian tenders clearing paths for European and Russian companies in various defense tenders which New Delhi will float in coming years.

With CAATSA Sanctions, United States wants India to slowly move away from Russia and start procuring US Arms thus boosting its own export of weapons to India but it is unlikely to happen due to trust deficit which New Delhi and Washington have harbored against each other even after both countries have concluded defence deals worth billions of dollars in last two decades .

Under provisions available in CAATSA, US Government can up its heat on India and might even force US-based Defence companies from backing off from on-going contractual obligations with defense contracts signed with New Delhi even risking providing maintenance support for the defense equipment that India has already bought from the US.

Indian Defence analysts call it Doomsdays scenario unlikely to happen but if it does become a reality then US-based Defence companies will not only be kicked out of India and Blacklisted. Angry New Delhi might even allow inspection of this sensitive systems to Russian and Europeans experts to help them manage in absence of US support which US Defence companies fear the most.

It is unlikely that US Government will carry out any such stupid moves which can harm its Interest in India but under President Donald Trump presidency almost all major American allies have seen unwanted heat from US administration and discomfort even when there are clear signs that US actions against its own allies are only helping rise of China in the new global order .
Don't think so ..India is not under any defence pact or obligation with US.
 
In reality, it's a bigger dilemma for the US than it is for India. US will come across as an unreliable arms exporter which will lead to a loss of billions of $s. More importantly, it will lose out on a strategic partner across the Indian Ocean.

The only project that will suffer greatly is Tejas but if this has to happen, it's not a bad time for it, since Tejas Mark 2 has not hit the prototype stage yet. There will be delays but it won't stall the project. AMCA will also take a hit but then again, it is still in the infant stages.

The ball is in US's court.
 
we know how to show who we are , whether it is US, RUUSIA, or ENEMIES .
 
SOURCE: ABHOY ROY / FOR MY TAKE / IDRW.ORG

Tejas


India’s defense acquisitions council has given its final approval to an agreement to purchase S-400 air defense missile systems from Russia, despite Washington’s opposition, S-400 procurement most likely will see the wrath of the United States Government on India since no exemptions were given to India not only on procurement of S-400 system but also on existing procurement plans of purchase of frigates and Joint venture with Russian companies on BrahMos-NG and BrahMos-2K .

Under the Countering America’s Adversaries through Sanctions Act (CAATSA) virtually dealings with all Russian defense companies are banned that means even procurement of any new weapons system or additional capabilities to the existing systems will attract US Scanners and it will simply be of no use for India even if it drops plans to procure S-400 from Russia .

One way or the other CAATSA will affect India’s dealing with Russia in support of existing systems in service for decades. Worst case scenarios according to Indian defense analysts are that US Defence Companies might be reframed from participating in Indian tenders clearing paths for European and Russian companies in various defense tenders which New Delhi will float in coming years.

With CAATSA Sanctions, United States wants India to slowly move away from Russia and start procuring US Arms thus boosting its own export of weapons to India but it is unlikely to happen due to trust deficit which New Delhi and Washington have harbored against each other even after both countries have concluded defence deals worth billions of dollars in last two decades .

Under provisions available in CAATSA, US Government can up its heat on India and might even force US-based Defence companies from backing off from on-going contractual obligations with defense contracts signed with New Delhi even risking providing maintenance support for the defense equipment that India has already bought from the US.

Indian Defence analysts call it Doomsdays scenario unlikely to happen but if it does become a reality then US-based Defence companies will not only be kicked out of India and Blacklisted. Angry New Delhi might even allow inspection of this sensitive systems to Russian and Europeans experts to help them manage in absence of US support which US Defence companies fear the most.

It is unlikely that US Government will carry out any such stupid moves which can harm its Interest in India but under President Donald Trump presidency almost all major American allies have seen unwanted heat from US administration and discomfort even when there are clear signs that US actions against its own allies are only helping rise of China in the new global order .
Yes, LCA will may face biggest blow in case of engine if US did something and we don't know to mood of Indian God named Trump and his administration.
 
Yes, LCA will may face biggest blow in case of engine if US did something and we don't know to mood of Indian God named Trump and his administration.

we know how to bend any trump to knees .
 
US will come out as the most un-reliable arms supplier. It ditched pakistan during the F-16 saga and threatened Turkey with the F-35 deal. It has already lost it's credibility to impose un-reasonable tariffs and sanctions on various countries. This is the very reason India didn't want to acquire an entire weapons platform like the F-16/18 from the US.

Yes, LCA will may face biggest blow in case of engine if US did something and we don't know to mood of Indian God named Trump and his administration.
The development of Kaveri is at a rapid pace and Safran recently certified that Kaveri is ready for user trails in it's current form without any modifications nor using M88 core. We can always opt for Russian engines until Kaveri is cleared to induct which isn't very far
 
This could lead to the death of the LCA and the start of a crisis in the Indian airforce
 
It's likely that India and US would be reaching an agreement behind close doors,because India is fully dependent on Russia when it comes to older Equipment & what India is trying to procure from Russia,that can't be provided by west.
Indian Defence analysts call it Doomsdays scenario unlikely to happen but if it does become a reality then US-based Defence companies will not only be kicked out of India and Blacklisted. Angry New Delhi might even allow inspection of this sensitive systems to Russian and Europeans experts to help them manage in absence of US support which US Defence companies fear the most.
India isn't in position of getting infront of American warth.
Most sensitive US system in Indian Arsenal is P-8,which India needs more then anything from anywhere when it comes to Matters related to Indian Ocean.
And lost but not least
India needs US more then anything it needs to counter Pakistan.
The only project that will suffer greatly is Tejas but if this has to happen, it's not a bad time for it, since Tejas Mark 2 has not hit the prototype stage yet. There will be delays but it won't stall the project. AMCA will also take a hit but then again, it is still in the infant stages.
Tejas would likely end or it would lose it's utility due to such mishap,because it's already a decade late.The Position at which it's standing today,should have been achieved by 2006.
It would have 0 effect on AMCA,India is developing Kaveri with having AMCA in mind.It's likely that's AMCA would be powered by a muture varient of kaveri.
US will come out as the most un-reliable arms supplier. It ditched pakistan during the F-16 saga and threatened Turkey with the F-35 deal. It has already lost it's credibility to impose un-reasonable tariffs and sanctions on various countries. This is the very reason India didn't want to acquire an entire weapons platform like the F-16/18 from the US.
It still offers weapon system which are unmatched in world.
 
Most sensitive US system in Indian Arsenal is P-8,which India needs more then anything from anywhere when it comes to Matters related to Indian Ocean.
And lost but not least
India needs US more then anything it needs to counter Pakistan.

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Apaches are on it's way, M777's are being delivered..negotiations are on for armed predator drones. So there is plenty both sides can lose.

As for Pakistan, why do you think India requires US weapons to counter Pakistan?.

US weapons are meant for china.
 
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