Will no longer seek Pakistan’s help in peace talks: Afghan president

[Strigon]

Only if there was a strong enough leader to say, "okay you fck yourself along with your refugees" he would get a sudden surge in popularity. These afghan 'leaders' barely have any control of any part of their country besides embassies and palaces guarded by poor kids who should be in college instead. Oh I forget, that mud hut of a country doesn't have any colleges.

But instead we have an ogre - shrek in office bent on looting every penny before he gets gutted. I wonder how worse of a fate would await him compared to Qaddafi if he is caught in public without his own army of protocols.

 

[Hiptullha]

So you think Af will prefer to loose thousands every year, their women and children murdered daily, their institutions blown up every week so that they can continue blaming Pakistan. You have a really unique way of thinking which should be lauded.

Always a pleasure to see a young Indian wander into a thread and display his naivety and ignorance in one sentence with such flourish, you'd think he just made the statement of the century.
The Afghan government is filled to the brim with warlords and drug traffickers who weren't too long ago amassing large militias to go to war with one another. You think they care about the lives of women and children? Dig deeper into the history of the Vice President of the country, General Dostum, and you'll learn his men gained notoriety for stopping women at checkposts, raping them, and then cutting their breasts off. I doubt you'd bother with such intricacies though. Much easier to continue whipping the dead horse and regurgitating the same "Pakistan is the boogeyman of the region" theory.

 

[Spectre]

Always a pleasure to see a young Indian wander into a thread and display his naivety and ignorance in one sentence with such flourish, you'd think he just made the statement of the century.
The Afghan government is filled to the brim with warlords and drug traffickers who weren't too long ago amassing large militias to go to war with one another. You think they care about the lives of women and children? Dig deeper into the history of the Vice President of the country, General Dostum, and you'll learn his men gained notoriety for stopping women at checkposts, raping them, and then cutting their breasts off. I doubt you'd bother with such intricacies though. Much easier to continue whipping the dead horse and regurgitating the same "Pakistan is the boogeyman of the region" theory.

How is Rashid Dostum relevant to my post? My point was about the atrocity of the post that stated that Afghans will prefer to keep the conflict alive so that they can blame Pakistan.

 

[Hiptullha]

How is Rashid Dostum relevant to my post?

Dostum is part of the government you naively believe holds the best interests of the Afghan people.

My point was about the atrocity of the post that stated that Afghans will prefer to keep the conflict alive so that they can blame Pakistan.

They already stated their intention to "isolate" Pakistan a while ago, which was followed by this statement. Hmm....let me see...so they want to drag Pakistan to the UN, get Pakistan slapped with a dozen sanctions and get the international community to side with them against Pakistan, all on the claim that Pakistan is backing the Taliban. Hmm....what could be the reason behind this recent decision? You see the thought process going into this?

 

[Spectre]

Dostum is part of the government you naively believe holds the best interests of the Afghan people.



They already stated their intention to "isolate" Pakistan a while ago, which was followed by this statement. Hmm....let me see...so they want to drag Pakistan to the UN, get Pakistan slapped with a dozen sanctions and get the international community to side with them against Pakistan, all on the claim that Pakistan is backing the Taliban. Hmm....what could be the reason behind this recent decision? You see the thought process going into this?

No. I see you trying to give it a barely plausible spin. It is comical and horrifying to extrapolate your thought process.

 

[Hiptullha]

No. I see you trying to give it a barely plausible spin. It is comical and horrifying to extrapolate your thought process.

Voila! The bi-polar nature of the average PDF Indian is revealed!

At last we come to the heart of matter - there is no moral ground or doctrinal necessity. It is all about interests and what you can enforce beneficial to your interests.

Do you know which PDF Indian said these lines?

 

[Spectre]

Voila! The bi-polar nature of the average PDF Indian is revealed!

Do you know which PDF Indian said these lines?

These two statements have no connection not even tangential.

 

[Gufi]

I think it is time to take a look at sending a million or so Afghans back home... We are under no duty to keep them in our country.. There is no morale duty or obstacle left that impedes their return to their homeland... Or send all of them back and they can look for the Taliban amongst them...

 

[Hiptullha]

These two statements have no connection not even tangential.

What, so foreign policy is always dictated by interests except when it's in the case of Afghanistan which is required to be seen with a lens of morality?

 

[Spectre]

What, so foreign policy is always dictated by interests except when it's in the case of Afghanistan which is required to be seen with a lens of morality?

What is your FP with respect to Af and how the hell is it relevant to the point was making

 

[Hiptullha]

What is your FP with respect to Af and how the hell is it relevant to the point was making

Stop being an idiot.
You've implied multiple times that you believe the Afghan government would carry out no action which would endanger the lives of its citizens, which according to you would be morally wrong. Fair enough. At the same time, you're one of those users who spends a great deal of time blathering on about geopolitical interests and how every country makes decisions based upon its interests i.e. not dictated by morals. Do you get why I'm thinking your incoherent in your views?

 

[Spectre]

Stop being an idiot.
You've implied multiple times that you believe the Afghan government would carry out no action which would endanger the lives of its citizens, which according to you would be morally wrong. Fair enough. At the same time, you're one of those users who spends a great deal of time blathering on about geopolitical interests and how every country makes decisions based upon its interests. Do you get why I'm thinking your incoherent in your views?

And isn't saving lives of Afghans and preventing Talibani scum from blowing up which ever they please in Afghan interests? Be sensible mate.

and What is the Pakistan FP with respect to Af - can you elaborate on that?

P.S. It is common to be incoherent and see incoherence everywhere when the brain stops functioning.

 

[Hiptullha]

And isn't saving lives of Afghans and preventing Talibani scum from blowing up which ever they please in Afghan interests? Be sensible mate.

The post you responded to didn't say anything akin to what you're stating.

Translation : we are only interested in Randi rona of taliban..if Pakistan settles the taliban issue amicability....it makes Afghanistan lose a huge PR opportunity against Pakistan in daily media..

If Pakistan did manage to broker a peace deal between the two sides, it would be a major coup for our PR and weaken the Afghan narrative that Pakistan is at war with them. Their big plan of isolating us on the international stage and getting the UN to side against us would be shot down in an instant when the world learns Pakistan helped create peace between the two forces.
The Afghans kicked Pakistan out of the getting involved in the peace brokering process. I don't know where you're getting the ideas that they're giving the Taliban all rights to blowing up their cities and killing their civilians.

and What is the Pakistan FP with respect to Af - can you elaborate on that?

And this is relevant how? Don't divert.

 

[That Guy]

Honestly speaking, what worth is all the money when you can die 10 ways to Sunday during casual stroll in Kabul Markets.

Most human prioritize security over economic gains.

If you have massive security, and will probably leave the country soon, that money is worth a lot. Most of the profiteers are probably going to take every penny they made, and leave Afghanistan in the mess that it is in. That's the entire point of the war economy, make money through selling arms and having people kill each other, then leaving.

 

[iioal malik]

Afgistan have to decide how long will they suck the dirt of Indian shoes your imagae is like a snake in our backyard....enough is enough stop the blame game on Pakistan we hand battle the rats out of our soil which you and your friends supported to destabilize our land... and for fuk sakes stop listing to your half male incompetent security agencies who are married with a wrong girlfriend.....it's shameful to even think of brining peace back to Afghanistan after the dirty ugly mouth statements by afghans....Pakistan always acted like a good friend for all its neighbours.. But yet countries who came Independed before us acts like a crying little girl......grow balls and be mature