Will J-31 slow down F-35 sale? : Indian Perspective

[shree835]

Recent Chinese media reports Quoting Chinese military commentator Lei Ze mentioned how emergence of the Chinese fifth generation J-31 fighter jet will make it difficult for the US to export its F-35 fighters , he also said that Currently, the only fifth generation fighter available for sale is the F-35 by the US. The J-31 will offer an alternative for non-traditional allies of the US.”

Indian Defence analysts Vinayak shetty thinks otherwise and says that it is unlikely that J-31 will affect export sale of F-35, “Many countries are firmly behind F-35 Project, even when Prices have surged upwards recently but it is unlikely any of the current customers will even consider buying Chinese J-31 even if aircraft hits production now” . While J-31 is still in testing phase and good 7 to 8 years before enters production, while F-35 is all set to enter fully fledged Mass production soon.

While analysts say the Pakistan Air Force (PAF) might be one of the earliest customers of the fighter aircraft, but Vinayak shetty believes it will not be easy for PAF to procure these fighters, PAF are already struggling to buy hand full of J-10 fighters for last few years, even with Soft Loan offer provided by Chinese. PAF on other hand in past were always reluctant to operate twin engine fighter aircraft of medium capability size due to higher operating cost involved.

With No 5th generation fighter aircraft Project coming out of Europe many of these countries will be F-35 operators, and Russian Pak-Fa will capture export orders from traditional Sukhoi 30 / Mig operators in Asia. Traditional Chinese fighter aircraft market (Africa / Asian) countries will struggle to operate 5th generation fighter aircraft, so it will be very difficult for Chinese to push sales in their traditional market and difficult to break into American traditional partners, unless sale is bogged down by Us Export restrictions.

Vinayak shetty also have raised concern about a potential arms race in Asia due to emergence of Chinese J-31, many countries that are neighbours of China and have some unsolved issues with them, might now consider buying expensive F-35 or Pak-fa actually boosting their sales in return.

Currently many countries are also working on their own 5th generation fighter aircraft projects other than Russian, Us and China. India is working on Advanced Medium Combat Aircraft, Japanese on Mitsubishi ATD-X , Turkey on TFX and Russia again on single engine cheaper stealth fighter aircraft based on Mikoyan LMFS , which all might actually eat into J-31 export orders


SOURCE: IDRW NEWS NETWORK ( INN )

 

[Grevion]

Relevant,Countries like Iran, North Korea, Pakistan and other non-US/NATO allies may look toward it as an option. But most will surely go for the trusted F-35 or PAK FA. China will have to market it's plane's capacities to the buyers, something at which they are not so good.

 

[Yzd Khalifa]

Relevant,Countries like Iran, North Korea, Pakistan and other non-US/NATO allies may look toward it as an option. But most will surely go for the trusted F-35 or PAK FA. China will have to market it's plane's capacities to the buyers, something at which they are not so good.

If the US or Russia reject selling their equipments to some countries, they most certainly will go after the Chinese J-31.

 

[xunzi]

It doesn't matter what is being said by experts when the J-31 full specification is not out yet. But with initial impression of J-31, equipped with twin engines, stealth and supercruise, it can put the F-35 at a disadvantage, and this will play a role in the psychic of the those who want to buy F-35.

 

[Grevion]

If the US or Russia reject selling their equipments to some countries, they most certainly will go after the Chinese J-31.

Yes, But that will be a situation of no other choice available.

 

[Yzd Khalifa]

Yes, But that will be a situation of no other choice available.

True, maybe the Chinese will come up with something more interesting than other countries except the US and Russia of course.

I like Charmandr! Do you play Pokemon?

 

[Umair Nawaz]

Recent Chinese media reports Quoting Chinese military commentator Lei Ze mentioned how emergence of the Chinese fifth generation J-31 fighter jet will make it difficult for the US to export its F-35 fighters , he also said that Currently, the only fifth generation fighter available for sale is the F-35 by the US. The J-31 will offer an alternative for non-traditional allies of the US.”

Indian Defence analysts Vinayak shetty thinks otherwise and says that it is unlikely that J-31 will affect export sale of F-35, “Many countries are firmly behind F-35 Project, even when Prices have surged upwards recently but it is unlikely any of the current customers will even consider buying Chinese J-31 even if aircraft hits production now” . While J-31 is still in testing phase and good 7 to 8 years before enters production, while F-35 is all set to enter fully fledged Mass production soon.

While analysts say the Pakistan Air Force (PAF) might be one of the earliest customers of the fighter aircraft, but Vinayak shetty believes it will not be easy for PAF to procure these fighters, PAF are already struggling to buy hand full of J-10 fighters for last few years, even with Soft Loan offer provided by Chinese. PAF on other hand in past were always reluctant to operate twin engine fighter aircraft of medium capability size due to higher operating cost involved.

With No 5th generation fighter aircraft Project coming out of Europe many of these countries will be F-35 operators, and Russian Pak-Fa will capture export orders from traditional Sukhoi 30 / Mig operators in Asia. Traditional Chinese fighter aircraft market (Africa / Asian) countries will struggle to operate 5th generation fighter aircraft, so it will be very difficult for Chinese to push sales in their traditional market and difficult to break into American traditional partners, unless sale is bogged down by Us Export restrictions.

Vinayak shetty also have raised concern about a potential arms race in Asia due to emergence of Chinese J-31, many countries that are neighbours of China and have some unsolved issues with them, might now consider buying expensive F-35 or Pak-fa actually boosting their sales in return.

Currently many countries are also working on their own 5th generation fighter aircraft projects other than Russian, Us and China. India is working on Advanced Medium Combat Aircraft, Japanese on Mitsubishi ATD-X , Turkey on TFX and Russia again on single engine cheaper stealth fighter aircraft based on Mikoyan LMFS , which all might actually eat into J-31 export orders


SOURCE: IDRW NEWS NETWORK ( INN )

As His name is his analysis just ''Shetty''.

 

[GR!FF!N]

I think its not the technology mainly,but the lobbying that sells the weapon..we are seeing that many inferior weapons still gets sold on much superior weapons in many competition,mainly due to the fact that there is a strong lobby and political relationship at work..some country may be interested in buying J-31(some which have no other means of buying)..but countries on which Russia and USA has considerable stake will find it hard to buy bypassing these two countries..

 

[Tshering22]

But how is that possible? J-31 is still nowhere in sight.

Even if we take a near future term perspective, the Chinese government is still not offering J-10 jets itself to anyone other than Pakistan.

How will it sell its cutting edge 5th generation jet to foreign countries when it is not even ready to sell its previous generation jet to anyone else?

 

[Grevion]

True, maybe the Chinese will come up with something more interesting than other countries except the US and Russia of course.

I like Charmandr! Do you play Pokemon?

Nah! I used to watch it, but the TV series is long finished in India. I loved some of the characters though like Pikachu and Charmelion.

 

[Yzd Khalifa]

I think its not the technology mainly,but the lobbying that sells the weapon..we are seeing that many inferior weapons still gets sold on much superior weapons in many competition,mainly due to the fact that there is a strong lobby and political relationship at work..some country may be interested in buying J-31(some which have no other means of buying)..but countries on which Russia and USA has considerable stake will find it hard to buy bypassing these two countries..

Yes, I fully agree. Take the UAE and Israel as examples to back up your claim. They both lobby a lot to get one-of-a-kind stuff.

Nah! I used to watch it, but the TV series is long finished in India. I loved some of the characters though like Pikachu and Charmelion.

Alrighty, I was just wondering 'cause I do play it.

 

[Mitro]

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[Mitro]

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[Tihamah]

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are you saying J-31 is the chinese copy of F-35?

well i'm not suprise at all

 

[anonymus]

J-31

Does not exist beyond conceptual stage.

Probably not even at conceptual stage.