Will America provide the jamming code of F 16 Fighter jets in case of war between india and pakistan

[jung41]

IFF ;

The Aviationist » "Turkish F-16s now able to hit Israeli planes": since when IFF can prevent a fighter from firing a missile?

Has this been equiped in PAF F 16 jets also?

 

[Beta-Fighter]

There is no such thing is a "jamming code" the worst case scenerio is an altered Friend and Foe system (Which show israeli F-16s as friendlies) on F-16s of Egypt,Jordan etc... Which (were changed by USA)... But than again it isn't a problem .. The Turks have developed their own FnF system to help with that.. Which they use in their F-16 fleet .. Who also happen to be your best friends ... Upgrading our F-16s and supplying us with spare .. TAI

Yes their is , Did you read the Falklands war ? When French provide the deflection code for its ASM,

Every Radar has a Source code / Frequency of operations , anyone who knows about its frequency can jam the RADAR easily. " this is called Jamming codes"

 

[Kamil_baku]

Yes their is , Did you read the Falklands war ? When French provide the deflection code for its ASM,

Every Radar has a Source code / Frequency of operations , anyone who knows about its frequency can jam the RADAR easily. " this is called Jamming codes"

To be able to jam, you need the source code of those softwares, basically, countries keep the source code, there is no "Jam code"
Turkey had issues with the USA for new f35 fighters, which Turkey strongly demanded for source code but USA didnt accepted. eventually, USA allowed Turkish companies to be in the development stage of all the softwares. Only after that Turkey started to order some of the jets. But, most probably, Turkey wouldnt order without it!

it is so important.. basically, you can shoot enemies, if the airplane see it friend, as mentioned, the IFF system..

Cant the turkey system be hacked??

How are you going to JAM it if its not in the Internet? its their own system and they simply control it..
USA cant really do much about it.. thats the reason, Pakistan spend a lot to purchase and upgrade those f16!!
I would also tell you that, Turkey is very developed in information security! even Turkish company COMODO which also received help from Tubitak, is the number one in the USA.
In Cyprus war, Turkish jet bombed its own navy, later they found out that somebody gave wrong coordinates in Turkish! thats the reason that Aselsan was created and now its one of the strongest electronic company..

 

[jung41]

To be able to jam, you need the source code of those softwares, basically, countries keep the source code, there is now "Jam code"
Turkey had issues with the USA for new f35 fighters, which Turkey strongly demanded for source code but USA didnt accepted. eventually, USA allowed Turkish companies to be in the development stage of all the softwares. Only after that Turkey started to order some of the jets. But, most probably, Turkey wouldnt order without it!

it is so important.. basically, you can shout enemies, if the airplane see it fried, as mentioned, the IFF system..


How are you going to JAM it if its not in the Internet? its their own system and they simply control it..
USA cant really do much about it.. thats the reason, Pakistan spend a lot to purchase and upgrade those f16!!
I would also tell you that, Turkey is very developed in information security! even Turkish company COMODO which also received help from Tubitak, is the number one in the USA.
In Cyprus war, Turkish jet bombed its own navy, later they found out that somebody gave wrong coordinates in Turkish! thats the reason that Aselsan was created and now its one of the strongest electronic company..

Nice information

 

[mkg00179504]

This is an absolute BS. Why would the U.S risk it's billions $$$ arms industry , its reputation and then it's product. Why? Why would lockeed want to damage it self which in future can be considered unreliable and can lose billions of dollars on future order not only that damaging all other companies and its reputation and lose jobs and money because countries around the world consider them unreliable now . Why? Just to make India happy. Grow up guys , last thing the U.S wants F teens going down to a MIG or SU. Which by the way has yet to take place in reality. That's why I say Indians live in reality. Please don't come up with your 200-300 Km BVR missile BS.

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

Yes their is , Did you read the Falklands war ? When French provide the deflection code for its ASM,

Every Radar has a Source code / Frequency of operations , anyone who knows about its frequency can jam the RADAR easily. " this is called Jamming codes"

Good luck believing nonsense... Jamming radars.. had that been the case than US wouldn't have given shitty IFFs to Jordan,Turkey,Egypt instead they would simply have passed of "jaming codes" to Israel..

There is a reason PAF has been flying,upgrading and getting more F-16s... Otherwise they wouldn't have..


P.S; TAI actually builds F-16s۔۔ And Turkey is a strategic ally of Pak.

This is an absolute BS. Why would the U.S risk it's billions $$$ arms industry , its reputation and the it's product. Why? Why would lockeed want to damage it self which in future can be considered unreliable and can lose billions of dollars on future order not only that damaging all other companies and its reputation and lose jobs and money because countries around the world consider them unreliable now . Why? Just to make India happy. Grow up guys , last thing the U.S wants F teens going down to a MIG or SU. Which by the way has yet to take place in reality. That's why I say Indians live in reality. Please don't come up with your 200-300 Km BVR missile BS.

 

[SP!TF!R3]

Not needed..Only "No permission to fly" from USA will do..

PAF F-16s can't fly any mission without "USA's permission"..

also this one I think...

US F-16's to Pak come with a 'no use against India in future' rider

 

[Super Commando Dhruva]

I think that jamming code thing is a complete bullcrap our aviation engineers who can make a fighter jet are not that naive.They know how to disable that code thing.Or simply the codes don,t exist it,s just a bharti orgasm.

Engineers ? why dont you type Pakistan helicopter in You tube.

And Export your fighter Jet to USA ( Jo man kiya bol diya Han... )

 

[Kamil_baku]

I would also give you a good info.. Turkey, Aselsan lost 3 of its the best engineers who were working on these projects. they all are either jumped from balcony or killed themselves... But it made huge discussion that foreign spyies killed them! but after that, Aselsan started to offer security to all those critical engineers.. It require very high knowledge!! so far, Only Turkey could do this!!

 

[al_asad_al_mulk]

Not needed..Only "No permission to fly" from USA will do..

PAF F-16s can't fly any mission without "USA's permission"..

also this one I think...

US F-16's to Pak come with a 'no use against India in future' rider

you are the one who blessed because ignorance is a blessing and you have it

Good luck believing nonsense... Jamming radars.. had that been the case than US wouldn't have given shitty IFFs to Jordan,Turkey,Egypt instead they would simply have passed of "jaming codes" to Israel..

There is a reason PAF has been flying,upgrading and getting more F-16s... Otherwise they wouldn't have..


P.S; TAI actually builds F-16s۔۔ And Turkey is a strategic ally of Pak.

Actually what happen they developed friend and foe system that automatically detect other F-16 as freind but what happen they exported F-16 with in build friend and foe system to all countries. When Turkish pilots in one of the exercise in which Israeli F-16 participated try to lock on system shows it as friend and warning sign apears but still it is upto pilot who can ignore warning sign and continuous to lock. News spread quickly and after that US supplies chips different counties with different program.

 

[rockstarIN]

Actually what happen they developed friend and foe system that automatically detect other F-16 as freind but what happen they exported F-16 with in build friend and foe system to all countries. When Turkish pilots in one of the exercise in which Israeli F-16 participated try to lock on system shows it as friend and warning sign apears but still it is upto pilot who can ignore warning sign and continuous to lock. News spread quickly and after that US supplies chips different counties with different program.

It is not MEWS always but the main censor frequency IMO. (Radar)

The Jammer (for e.g ELTA/8222) emits the frequency of the opponents radar, thus you possibly can't 'track' those jet but since you know that some reflections coming from (even though conflicting)one particular reflection..you can understand the presence of the enemy jet. But can't track and lock on to fire missile.

It will not be that easy to do so against AESA Radars though for which frequency will be changed while operating the radar.

 

[Beta-Fighter]

Good luck believing nonsense... Jamming radars.. had that been the case than US wouldn't have given shitty IFFs to Jordan,Turkey,Egypt instead they would simply have passed of "jaming codes" to Israel..


There is a reason PAF has been flying,upgrading and getting more F-16s... Otherwise they wouldn't have..


P.S; TAI actually builds F-16s۔۔ And Turkey is a strategic ally of Pak.

lol , you don't know much do you? , people like always wonder in the end how Israeli F-16 travelled undetected over turkey.

JFI, the IFF's can detect all AC in air , while jammer block the complete radar . Their is difference in working of both.

Do PAF have any choice other then F-16? which plane you can buy ? your JFT cannot drop bombs, you cannot buy Euro or Russian plane , only option left Chinese.

 

[Jobless Jack]

why would PAF waste billons of dollars on planes which wont be able to do its job when national security is threatned because US managed to say NO to their use ?

i honestly dont think PAF would have f 16's in the inventory unless they were absolutly sure that these planes will do their job in protecting national airspace wheather anybody likes it or not !

what the US told indians is just to help their bruised ego :p

 

[Beta-Fighter]

why would PAF waste billons of dollars on planes which wont be able to do its job when national security is threatned because US managed to say NO to their use ?

i honestly dont think PAF would have f 16's in the inventory unless they were absolutly sure that these planes will do their job in protecting national airspace wheather anybody likes it or not !

what the US told indians is just to help their bruised ego :p

What other options PAF had? now one give AIDS to PAK other china and US .

 

[MAJESTICAL]