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Why has Indonesia developed much faster than India?

because indonesia was seriously underestimated after 1998 aisan crisis.India actually do better than indonesia after 1998.Indonesia had been already much richer than china and india before 1998.
 
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And resource exporting of Indonesia is how many times of India‘s?

Guess that number answers OP’s question perfectly well.

contrary to popular belief, Indonesia is not exporting much of her natural resources like in the past



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Indonesian manufacturing sector is comprises of 32% per-cent of Indonesian GDP, largest economic sector in Indonesia is service sector which contributed around 36 per-cent of Indonesian GDP, then followed by extraction activity then followed by agricultural and fisheries sector
 
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Indonesian manufacturing output is almost at equal size against India.

Yes, the two are about the same overall size in industrial/manufacturing sector.
Hence ID measures much higher on per capita.

And resource exporting of Indonesia is how many times of India‘s?
Guess that number answers OP’s question perfectly well.

The two countries are quite different in economic nature.
ID is an industrialized nation (on par with ASEAN peers), and a resources-rich country.
Hence the stark contrast in GDP per capita 2014, Indonesia was $3,419.9 while India was $1,595.7
GDP per capita (current US$) | Data | Graph
 
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Indonesia always had better development prospects compared to India. They are located in a better place, are resource rich but had issues around environment and political stability (not anymore).

Plus the PPP comparison is slightly less stark than the nominal.
 
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IF we go by GDP per capita only Luxembourg will be the most developed country in the world in this definition ,with USA at 10 and China at 79 acc to IMF 2014.

Good luck to Indonesia anyway.
 
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Indonesian manufacturing sector is comprises of 32% per-cent of Indonesian GDP, largest economic sector in Indonesia is service sector which contributed around 36 per-cent of Indonesian GDP, then followed by extraction activity then followed by agricultural and fisheries sector

Then explain why Vietnam, which has a similar economic model and a comparable manufacturing sector,has a much lower GDP per capita(2000USD) than Indonesia.

Believe it or not,being resource rich or resource scarce makes a huge difference even among peer countries,look at Qatar vs. Yemen(92K USD gap),or Norway vs. Sweden(38K USD gap). That reason is pretty clear to anyone but when it comes to Indonesia vs. India, it is not as clear,but still big enough to make a 1.7K USD gap.

Imagine Indonesia without those resources,so instead of selling them,now you have to buy most of your energy and raw materials from other country,I would guess the GDP per capita will be dropping to lower 2000USD,on par with Vietnam and not much higher than India.

Without a doubt that is an inevitability. South Asia will be the next growth engine for the world in the coming decades.

That's just FACT.

Wait.. Why you promoting south asia all of a sudden?I thought japan has much bigger stakes in SE asia..You smoking somthing? LOL.

The other day you were praising India's caste system. Wondering why.
He's been smoking somthin.dont know what
 
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Then explain why Vietnam, which has a similar economic model and a comparable manufacturing sector,has a much lower GDP per capita(2000USD) than Indonesia.

Manufacturing, value added (current US$)
Manufacturing refers to industries belonging to ISIC divisions 15-37. Value added is the net output of a sector after adding up all outputs and subtracting intermediate inputs. It is calculated without making deductions for depreciation of fabricated assets or depletion and degradation of natural resources. The origin of value added is determined by the International Standard Industrial Classification (ISIC), revision 3. Data are in current U.S. dollars.
World Bank national accounts data, and OECD National Accounts data files.
Catalog Sources World Development Indicators


Country name 2013

1. China 2,941,337,347,299

2. United States 1,966,495,000,000

3. Japan 1,073,277,493,560

4. Germany 745,240,864,784

5. Korea, Rep. 370,393,593,514

6. Italy 287,482,387,812

7. Brazil 250,149,717,252

8. France 285,590,357,502

9. India 298,892,275,348

10.United Kingdom 231,189,798,427

11.Russian Federation 267,591,226,274

12.Indonesia 205,768,427,070

Mexico 215,689,694,253

Canada 162,080,209,810

Turkey ,169,232,482

Thailand 127,569,680,401

Switzerland 123,855,109,928

Australia 104,170,239,125

Netherlands 93,050,714,496

Sweden 84,367,422,538

Poland 88,003,543,631

Argentina

Belgium

Austria

Malaysia 74,895,426,703

Saudi Arabia 75,536,266,667

Venezuela, RB 50,891,378,335
South Africa

Singapore 52,577,079,837

Puerto Rico
Ireland
Czech Republic
Philippines
Finland

Colombia
Egypt, Arab Rep.
Denmark
Norway
Portugal
United Arab Emirates
Hungary
Nigeria
Chile
Pakistan 31,274,076,599
Ukraine
Vietnam 29,981,829,397
Bangladesh 24,661,461,494

Manufacturing, value added (current US$) | Data | Table

(There is some changes in this year data figure from World Bank ( I posted last year data) )
 
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Manufacturing, value added (current US$)
Manufacturing refers to industries belonging to ISIC divisions 15-37. Value added is the net output of a sector after adding up all outputs and subtracting intermediate inputs. It is calculated without making deductions for depreciation of fabricated assets or depletion and degradation of natural resources. The origin of value added is determined by the International Standard Industrial Classification (ISIC), revision 3. Data are in current U.S. dollars.
World Bank national accounts data, and OECD National Accounts data files.
Catalog Sources World Development Indicators


Country name 2013

1. China 2,941,337,347,299

2. United States 1,966,495,000,000

3. Japan 1,073,277,493,560

4. Germany 745,240,864,784

5. Korea, Rep. 370,393,593,514

6. Italy 287,482,387,812

7. Brazil 250,149,717,252

8. France 285,590,357,502

9. India 298,892,275,348

10.United Kingdom 231,189,798,427

11.Russian Federation 267,591,226,274

12.Indonesia 205,768,427,070

Mexico 215,689,694,253

Canada 162,080,209,810

Turkey ,169,232,482

Thailand 127,569,680,401

Switzerland 123,855,109,928

Australia 104,170,239,125

Netherlands 93,050,714,496

Sweden 84,367,422,538

Poland 88,003,543,631

Argentina

Belgium

Austria

Malaysia 74,895,426,703

Saudi Arabia 75,536,266,667

Venezuela, RB 50,891,378,335
South Africa

Singapore 52,577,079,837

Puerto Rico
Ireland
Czech Republic
Philippines
Finland

Colombia
Egypt, Arab Rep.
Denmark
Norway
Portugal
United Arab Emirates
Hungary
Nigeria
Chile
Pakistan 31,274,076,599
Ukraine
Vietnam 29,981,829,397
Bangladesh 24,661,461,494

Manufacturing, value added (current US$) | Data | Table

What I ment by “comparable” was manufacture by percent of GDP which was also @madokafc was using.

And how much percent of Indonesian manufacturing is processing manufacture which uses local meterials?That part should also be considered part of being a resource rich country.
 
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What I ment by “comparable” was manufacture by percent of GDP which was also @madokafc was using.

And how much percent of Indonesian manufacturing is processing manufacture which uses local meterials?That part should also be considered part of being a resource rich country.

Okay, of course we are grateful to be a resource rich country. If we look into the world, we can see that great nations like USA and others are usually resource rich country as well + big population.

We have banned many raw material export starting last year. This move will likely improve our manufacturing out put and put us in an advantage position in term of being a manufacturing hub in the region.
 
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Okay, of course we are grateful to be a resource rich country. If we look into the world, we can see that great nations like USA and others are usually resource rich country as well + big population.

We have banned many raw material export starting last year. This move will likely improve our manufacturing out put and put us in an advantage position in term of being a manufacturing hub in the region.

Of course it‘s a blessing and you guys should feel like so. As I was saying in my initial post,by exporting resources alone can make Indonesia a richer country,It was really meant as a complement so dont get me wrong @madokafc :enjoy:
 
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Manufacturing, value added (current US$)
Manufacturing refers to industries belonging to ISIC divisions 15-37. Value added is the net output of a sector after adding up all outputs and subtracting intermediate inputs. It is calculated without making deductions for depreciation of fabricated assets or depletion and degradation of natural resources. The origin of value added is determined by the International Standard Industrial Classification (ISIC), revision 3. Data are in current U.S. dollars.
World Bank national accounts data, and OECD National Accounts data files.
Catalog Sources World Development Indicators


Country name 2013

1. China 2,941,337,347,299

2. United States 1,966,495,000,000

3. Japan 1,073,277,493,560

4. Germany 745,240,864,784

5. Korea, Rep. 370,393,593,514

6. Italy 287,482,387,812

7. Brazil 250,149,717,252

8. France 285,590,357,502

9. India 298,892,275,348

10.United Kingdom 231,189,798,427

11.Russian Federation 267,591,226,274

12.Indonesia 205,768,427,070

Mexico 215,689,694,253

Canada 162,080,209,810

Turkey ,169,232,482

Thailand 127,569,680,401

Switzerland 123,855,109,928

Australia 104,170,239,125

Netherlands 93,050,714,496

Sweden 84,367,422,538

Poland 88,003,543,631

Argentina

Belgium

Austria

Malaysia 74,895,426,703

Saudi Arabia 75,536,266,667

Venezuela, RB 50,891,378,335
South Africa

Singapore 52,577,079,837

Puerto Rico
Ireland
Czech Republic
Philippines
Finland

Colombia
Egypt, Arab Rep.
Denmark
Norway
Portugal
United Arab Emirates
Hungary
Nigeria
Chile
Pakistan 31,274,076,599
Ukraine
Vietnam 29,981,829,397
Bangladesh 24,661,461,494

Manufacturing, value added (current US$) | Data | Table

(There is some changes in this year data figure from World Bank ( I posted last year data) )

Anything wrong?
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the simple reason is that east asians are smarter than south asians. infact they are second only to ethnic europeans. indians would usually do things weaker than E.Asians.
 
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