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By Tony Karon Thursday, Jan. 20, 2011

One of the great ironies revealed by the global recession that began in 2008 is that Communist Party–ruled China may be doing a better job managing capitalism's crisis than the democratically elected U.S. government. Beijing's stimulus spending was larger, infinitely more effective at overcoming the slowdown and directed at laying the infrastructural tracks for further economic expansion.

As Western democracies shuffle wheezily forward, China's economy roars along at a steady clip, having lifted some half a billion people out of poverty over the past three decades and rapidly created the world's largest middle class to provide an engine for long-term domestic consumer demand. Sure, there's massive social inequality, but there always is in a capitalist system. (Income inequality rates in the U.S. are some of the worst in the industrialized world, and more Americans are falling into poverty than are being raised out of it. The number of Americans officially designated as living in poverty in 2009 — 43 million — was the highest in the 51 years that records have been kept.)

Beijing is also doing a far more effective job than Washington of tooling its economy to meet future challenges — at least according to historian Francis Fukuyama, erstwhile neoconservative intellectual heavyweight. "President Hu Jintao's rare state visit to Washington this week comes at a time when many Chinese see their weathering of the financial crisis as a vindication of their own system, and the beginning of an era in which U.S.-style liberal ideas will no longer be dominant," wrote Fukuyama in Monday's Financial Times under a headline stating that the U.S. had little to teach China. "State-owned enterprises are back in vogue, and were the chosen mechanism through which Beijing administered its massive stimulus."

Today Chinese leaders are more inclined to scold the U.S. — its debtor to the tune of close to a trillion dollars — than to emulate it, and Fukuyama noted that polls show that a larger percentage of Chinese believe their country is headed in the right direction, compared with Americans. China's success in navigating the economic crisis, wrote Fukuyama, was based on the ability of its authoritarian political system to "make large, complex decisions quickly, and ... make them relatively well, at least in economic policy."

These are startling observations from a writer who, 19 years ago, famously proclaimed that the collapse of the Soviet Union heralded "the end of history as such ... That is, the end point of mankind's ideological evolution and the universalization of Western liberal democracy as the final form of human government."

Fukuyama has had the good grace and intellectual honesty to admit he was wrong.
And he's no apologist for Chinese authoritarianism, calling out its abuses and corruption, and making clear that he believes the absence of democracy will eventually hobble China's progress. Still, as he noted in the Financial Times, while they don't hold elections, China's communist leaders are nonetheless responsive to public opinion. (Of course they are! A party brought to power by a peasant rebellion knows full well the destructive potential of the rage of working people.) But the regime claims solid support from the Chinese middle class, and hedges against social explosion by directing resources and investment to more marginal parts of the country.

China's leaders, of course, never subscribed to Fukuyama's "end of history" maxim; the Marxism on which they were reared would have taught them that there is no contingent relationship between capitalism and democracy, and they only had to look at neighbors such as Taiwan, South Korea and Singapore to see economic success stories under authoritarian rule — although the prosperity thus achieved played a major role in transforming Taiwan and South Korea into the noisy democracies they are today. Nor were Beijing's leaders under any illusions that the free market could take care of such basic needs as education, health care and infrastructure necessary to keep the system as a whole growing.

But Fukuyama also made a point about the comparative inability of the U.S. system to respond decisively to a long-term crisis. "China adapts quickly, making difficult decisions and implementing them effectively," Fukuyama wrote. "Americans pride themselves on constitutional checks and balances, based on a political culture that distrusts centralised government. This system has ensured individual liberty and a vibrant private sector, but it has now become polarised and ideologically rigid. At present it shows little appetite for dealing with the long-term fiscal challenges the U.S. faces. Democracy in America may have an inherent legitimacy that the Chinese system lacks, but it will not be much of a model to anyone if the government is divided against itself and cannot govern."

Money has emerged as the electoral trump card in the U.S. political system, and corporations have a Supreme Court–recognized right to use their considerable financial muscle to promote candidates and policies favorable to their business operations and to resist policies and shut out candidates deemed inimical to their business interests. So whether it's health reform or the stimulus package, the power of special interests in the U.S. system invariably produces either gridlock or mishmash legislation crafted to please the narrow interests of a variety of competing interests rather than the aggregated interests of the economy and society as a whole. Efficient and rational decisionmaking it's not. Nor does it appear capable of tackling long-term problems.

China is the extreme opposite, of course. It can ride roughshod over the lives of its citizens (e.g., building a dam that requires the forced relocation of 1.5 million people who have no channels through which to protest). But China's system is unlikely to give corporations the power to veto or shape government decisionmaking to suit their bottom lines at the expense of the needs of the system as a whole in the way that, to choose but one example, U.S. pharmaceutical companies are able to wield political influence to deny the government the right to negotiate drug prices for the public health system. Fukuyama seems to be warning that, in Darwinian terms, the Chinese system may be more adaptive than the land of the free.
 
China has a long way to go before it can work out a free market economic system that suits China's national characteristics and circumstances. Getting China's development level up to the same level as Taiwan or South Korea needs to be first priority. More innovative societies like USA are well beyond comparison for now.
 
yes ,per capita wise China still has a long way to go.
 
China has a long way to go before it can work out a free market economic system that suits China's national characteristics and circumstances. Getting China's development level up to the same level as Taiwan or South Korea needs to be first priority. More innovative societies like USA are well beyond comparison for now.
But it seems imppossible for CHina , you can be a good manufacturer for the world, but no one wanna buy CHina high tech product bcz of your very bad friendship to the World , so you can not get rich like Taiwan or South Korea

People hate CHina, so they won't buy your product, that's it.
 
You should not only see the people lifted out of poverty in China but the direct and indirect impact of Chinese investments overseas has benefit thousands of Non-Chinese!

I happen to know a Chinese who went into a remote part of Pakistan and started few shops of Motorcycle and Rickshaw parts by providing on credit to local vendors..His business has grown from 1-Million ruppess to 10-million ruppes in last seven years and provided economic opportunities to many..this is just one example I know and I am sure there are countless others around the world..The Chinese doctrine does pitch to race for the same cake..it says to take the cake and distribute it to all...this is a fundamental different in the upbringing of Chinese enterprising capitalism versus west.

But it seems imppossible for CHina , you can be a good manufacturer for the world, but no one wanna buy CHina high tech product bcz of your very bad friendship to the World.

People hate CHina, so they won't buy your product, that it.

And you base your assumptions purely on Ph.D in trolling?
 
You should not only see the people lifted out of poverty in China but the direct and indirect impact of Chinese investments overseas has benefit thousands of Non-Chinese!

I happen to know a Chinese who went into a remote part of Pakistan and started few shops of Motorcycle and Rickshaw parts by providing on credit to local vendors..His business has grown from 1-Million ruppess to 10-million ruppes in last seven years and provided economic opportunities to many..this is just one example I know and I am sure there are countless others around the world..The Chinese doctrine does pitch to race for the same cake..it says to take the cake and distribute it to all...this is a fundamental different in the upbringing of Chinese enterprising capitalism versus west.



And you base your assumptions purely on Ph.D in trolling?

he is mentally unstable,no pointing talking to nuts.
 
You should not only see the people lifted out of poverty in China but the direct and indirect impact of Chinese investments overseas has benefit thousands of Non-Chinese!

I happen to know a Chinese who went into a remote part of Pakistan and started few shops of Motorcycle and Rickshaw parts by providing on credit to local vendors..His business has grown from 1-Million ruppess to 10-million ruppes in last seven years and provided economic opportunities to many..this is just one example I know and I am sure there are countless others around the world..The Chinese doctrine does pitch to race for the same cake..it says to take the cake and distribute it to all...this is a fundamental different in the upbringing of Chinese enterprising capitalism versus west.



And you base your assumptions purely on Ph.D in trolling?

he has 3 or more accounts full-time trolling here, wonder why his IP is not banned```maybe his employer vietcon has many IPs for those pathetic internet warriors``as in vietnam people are extreemly poor having an outdated computer is a luxury let alone internet`
 
And you base your assumptions purely on Ph.D in trolling?
So how about you ?? try to cover CHina's weak point here ??

I'm sure that EU-US-VietNam-Japan-S.Korea will never buy CHina high tech product , and CHina surely will go broke soon.

rcrmj said:
he has 3 or more accounts full-time trolling here, wonder why his IP is not banned```maybe his employer vietcon has many IPs for those pathetic internet warriors``as in vietnam people are extreemly poor having an outdated computer is a luxury let alone internet`
Show me the post that I lied about VN-China like some CHinese here , can you ??
 
Soros: China has better functioning government than U.S.

If nothing else, Glenn Beck probably has his top story set for tonight's show:

"There is a really remarkable, rapid shift of power and influence from the United States to China," Mr. Soros said, likening the U.S.'s decline to that of the U.K. after the Second World War.

Because global economic power is shifting, Mr. Soros said China needs to change its focus. "China has risen very rapidly by looking out for its own interests," he said. "They have now got to accept responsibility for world order and the interests of other people as well."

Mr. Soros even went so far as to say that at times China wields more power than the U.S. because of the political gridlock in Washington. "Today China has not only a more vigorous economy, but actually a better functioning government than the United States," he said, a hard statement for him to make because he spent much of his life donating to anti-communist groups in Eastern Europe.
 
So how about you ?? try to cover CHina's weak point here ??

I'm sure that EU-US-VietNam-Japan-S.Korea will never buy CHina high tech product , and CHina surely will go broke soon.


Show me the post that I lied about VN-China like some CHinese here , can you ??


You just did it. You need to stop flattering yourself and linking Vietnam to the west in such fashion. In truth Vietnam's relationship with the west is not even advanced enough for it to make any impact in the region, let alone cause any significant global impact that would affect China. You need money and power to speak, especially in the world of politics. When you said China will go broke soon, how soon I wonder? Judging by the looks of things we are steam rolling here more than ever before :lol:
 
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