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China denied on Friday any link to a batch of 69 Patriot missiles confiscated by Finnish authorities, saying the weapons were destined for South Korea.

"As far as we know these goods were made in Germany and were being sent to South Korea," Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesman Liu Weimin told a daily news briefing. "This is a British ship which left Germany carrying Patriot missiles for South Korea."

Some reports have alleged the missiles were destined for China, but Liu said that was not the case.

"I don't see what connection this boat has with China. We think it odd that some people always link certain things to China. The facts are all very clear," he added.

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The surface-to-air missiles were found on Wednesday when authorities searched the cargo ship Thor Liberty in Kotka, southern Finland. They also discovered 150 tons of explosive material called nitroguanidine, which was not stowed properly.

Markku Koskinen, the director of traffic operations at the port of Kotka, said they were deficiently packed in wooden boxes on open pallets and would be moved to metal containers in line with rules on the maritime transport of explosives.

Finnish authorities confiscated the missiles found on the ship and arrested its Ukrainian captain and chief officer on suspicion of trying to transport the missiles via Finland without permission.
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"The missiles did not have the appropriate transit papers," Detective Superintendent Timo Virtanen said.
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Finland requires those seeking to transport defense material via its territory to seek permission. In the past six years there have been 20 cases of defense material being transported without the required documentation with the latest incident appearing to be one of the largest consignments.

A spokesman for Germany's Defense Ministry told The Associated Press on Thursday that the missiles were an official shipment that was fully declared and had all necessary clearings from German authorities. He also said they were being transported to South Korea.

The ship was sailing under an Isle of Man flag and had stopped to load anchor cables on board.

China is subject to an arms embargo by the United States and European Union imposed after the bloody crackdown on pro-democracy demonstrators around Beijing's Tiananmen Square in 1989.
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American-made Patriot missiles are used to counter threats, including aircraft, tactical ballistic missiles and cruise missiles. They are part of the U.S. Army's weaponry and were extensively used during the 1991 Gulf war.

Manufactured by Raytheon and Lockheed Martin Missiles and Fire Control in Florida, Patriot missiles have been in service in several countries, including Egypt, Germany, Greece, Israel, Japan, Saudi Arabia, Taiwan and South Korea. :what::what:
 
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I don't think that in this WORLD OF TECHNOLOGY, it is even possible for a cargo ship carrying 69 Patriot Missiles to go missing??? Just like this??? :what: :what: :what:
 
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Those are the old missiles reserved in the US military base of Germany.

Its lifetime is almost expired, so US decided to sell them to South Korea for the exchange of few bucks.
 
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Looks like Finns are sticking to they laws rather than giving in to Germany's clarification that the missiles are destined for South Korea.

They are letting the freighter go but detained its captain, the Patriot SAMs and the explosive, the reason being that the cargo declaration paper stated them as "fireworks" which are considered as false declaration.
 
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Those are the old missiles reserved in the US military base of Germany.
No, they were owned and operated by German military that were put into storage.

Its lifetime is almost expired, so US decided to sell them to South Korea for the exchange of few bucks.
Those missiles are about 10 years old, and is still good for another 10 years. And that's all Korea needs, until its replacement KL-SAM(The long-range ramjet SAM with an operational range of 300 km, intended to turn the Yellow Sea and about half of North Korea into a no-fly zone for the PLAAF) becomes operational in 2018.
 
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No, they were owned and operated by German military that were put into storage.


Those missiles are about 10 years old, and is still good for another 10 years. And that's all Korea needs, until its replacement KL-SAM(The long-range ramjet SAM with an operational range of 300 km, intended to turn the Yellow Sea and about half of North Korea into a no-fly zone for the PLAAF) becomes operational in 2018.


What have you been smoking? There is no PLAAF flying over korean skies. And learn geography too. Any idea how big the Yellow Sea is?
 
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What have you been smoking? There is no PLAAF flying over korean skies. And learn geography too. Any idea how big the Yellow Sea is?
PLA intervention is included in the US-ROK war scenario. Accordingly, it becomes important to deny access of North Korean airspace via the Yellow Sea to PLAAF for the successful outcome of the war.

This is why Korean military is pursuing a ramjet SAM.
 
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