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Which Nation Will Be The 4th To Join the Elite Club of Spacefaring Nations?

Which Nation Will Be The 4th To Join the Elite Club of Spacefaring Nations?


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Preparations for developing FOBS weapons are so advanced, that rockets have been launched by both Iran and North Korea on several occasions, with trajectory heading similar to that of future FOBS missiles.

Indeed, both Iranian Safir-1 and Qased SLVs have placed payloads into orbit, while heading toward the U.S. mainland approaching from the south west.

Meanwhile, North Korean Unha-3 and Kwangmyongsong SLVs have placed payloads into orbit while approaching the U.S. mainland from the south east.

This might be consistent with a probable doctrine of coordinated Irano-Korean nuclear preemptive simultaneous saturation strike, conducted from multiple directions in order to defeat the U.S. missile defence system, and to maximize the probability of success.

Keeping in mind that the doctrine of first use of nuclear strike is inherent to the FOBS weapon, as then devised by the Soviet Union.

North Korea being known to currently possess only less than a hundred nuclear warheads, the addition of at least the same number of Iranian warheads in the near future would be necessary for any preemptive thermonuclear carpet bombing of the U.S.A. mainland to be successful.

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1. Preparations for developing FOBS weapons are so advanced, that rockets have been launched by both Iran and North Korea on several occasions, with trajectory heading similar to that of a future FOBS missile.

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Lol.. how many has it launched with this world class beaters that China and Russia shall be embarrassed?

Two, and a third in March. You've had only six launches in a span of 17 years.

Russia should only be embarrassed because they are still using their 1960's era cramped 3 person with button pushsticks capsule.
 
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Two, and a third in March. You've had only six launches in a span of 17 years.

Russia should only be embarrassed because they are still using their 1960's era cramped 3 person with button pushsticks capsule.
At least it's their own technology and the world have only 3 countries to send man to space with their own effort. Even mighty EU don't have such tech. There is nothing to be ashamed . Don't forget for the last 10 years, US NASA has been riding these so called dinosaur you called to ISS without a single person killed.

As for China having so little manned mission. You will see the frequency increase once our core space station is send to space next year January. You don't send man to space just for sake of boasting. Their trip need to be valued and produce productive result. Sending man to space station to conduct scientific test is the key.
 
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As for China having so little manned mission. You will see the frequency increase once our core space station is send to space next year January. You don't send man to space just for sake of boasting. Their trip need to be valued and produce productive result. Sending man to space station to conduct scientific test is the key.

Yes, the four people sent up this week will be there for six months. We look forward to your astronauts after 17 years finally also having the ability to spend a worthwhile amount of time in space.
 
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After analysing the future winner of this manned space race for the 4th place through various filters:

• 1. Green Light And Historical Milestones As Prerequisites For A Manned Suborbital Flight V1.0
• 2. Space Sci-fi movie development as rule of thumb (censored, please google for mirror)
• 3. Rare Earth Reserve among the future manned space powers (censored, please google for mirror)
• 4. Natural balanced rock wonders among the future manned space powers
• 5. Mega-buildings among the future manned space powers
• 6. Artistic representation of space shuttles among the future manned space powers V1.0.

Today, we will use a 7th biometric filter to confirm our previous conclusions:

7. State Leader's Body Weight And World Ranking

World leaders are chosen to be mediatic figures, watched by billions of commoners worldwide.

Therefore physical aspect is paramount. It is representative of a nation's health and status.

It showcases its economical, diplomatical, cultural influences as well as its scientifical strenght and techological level, and overall military might.

North Korean leader has no health symptoms despite being overweight: spy agency

All News 17:22 November 03, 2020

SEOUL, Nov. 3 (Yonhap) -- North Korean leader Kim Jong Un has gained a substantial amount of weight each year since taking power in the country in late 2011 but remains free from any serious health symptoms, according to the South Korean spy agency Tuesday.

"Kim Jong Un currently weighs in the 140 kilogram range after having gained an average of 6 to 7 kilograms per year over the past eight years since weighing 90 kilograms in August of 2012," Ha quoted the spy agency as reporting.


Rating

North Korea's leader, Kim Jong Un is a super heavyweight at 140 kg. Unparalleled. And it keeps gaining 7 kg per year! Thus confirming its leading position in this manned space race.

Turkey's leader, Recep Tayyip Erdogan is estimated to weight between 81 kg to 85 kg. This makes it a cruiserweight and in the second best position in this manned space race.

India's leader, Narendra Modi is rated between 70 kg and 78 kg. These huge fluctuations might indicate some inconsistencies that might affect negatively India's manned space ambitions!

Japan's leader, Yoshihide Suga once weighted over 77 kg but after 4 month of exercise it sank to only 63 kg. This case indicates that Japan could beat India in the manned space race but without certainty, or lose it to Iran and even Burma!

Iran's leader, Hassan Rouhani has a body weight between 72 kg and 75 kg. While lightweight, it might challenge India at some times in the future!

Burma's leader, Aung San Suu Kyi is a light welterweight, with only 62 kg. This might indicate that a leader change is required before any manned space flight could be attempted in the future.


Finally, some contender might try to cheat! But does any victory in the cybersphere impact the physical world?

A contender that is still struggling to place its first satellite into orbit, and that might suffer the same fate of Jean de la Fontaine's frog which, in its desire to make itself as big as an ox, bursts into pieces!

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1. A contender that is still struggling to place its first satellite into orbit, and that might suffer the same fate of Jean de la Fontaine's frog which, in its desire to make itself as big as an ox, bursts into pieces!

Jair M. Bolsonaro @jairbolsonaro
Capitão do Exército Brasileiro, eleito 38° Presidente da República Federativa do Brasil.
6:25 PM · Nov 18, 2020·Twitter
http://web.archive.org/web/20201120005145/https://twitter.com/jairbolsonaro/status/1329113457694830597 ; https://archive.vn/a6t2y


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All clear for North Korea becoming the only 4th nation in the world to send a man into space by its own effort!

Indeed, India's ISRO has just hinted that it could only throw in the towel, being no longer able to compete in this manned space race, while totally crumbling under an uncontrollable COVID-19 pandemic!

First crewless Gaganyaan flight only by end of 2021

Chethan Kumar / TNN / Updated: Nov 19, 2020, 11:23 IST

BENGALURU: The first crewless flight as part of the preparations for the ambitious Gaganyaan project originally planned for this year and then pushed to the first half of 2021 due to Covid-19, will now only happen at the end of next year. Isro will eventually also launch a second crewless flight, now scheduled for 2022 before launching humans into space.

Isro chairman K Sivan told TOI that the process of human rating is progressing well and is expected to be complete in the second half of next year. TOI was the first to report the postponement of the crewless/unmanned flight and also the fact that the human mission too is likely to miss its original deadline.

As part of the unmanned flight, Isro plans to send a humanoid (developed indigenously). In June, when it became clear that the first crewless flight won’t happen this year, Sivan had said: “Whether we will launch two unmanned missions next year will depend on the emerging situations, we will have to decide based on what happens in the coming months. If Covid effects continue further, we may have to revisit some of our plans.” It is now apparent that Isro will only be able to launch one crewless flight next year.

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World's Manned Space Race For The 4th Place

Mission
Launch date Altitude Crew Spacecraft Launcher
Iran 1 First half of 2021 Suborbital 190 km DummyE1Safir-1D
Iran 2 Mid-2021 Suborbital
190 km
DummyE1Safir-1D
India 1 December 2021 Orbital flight Dummy Gaganyaan-1 GSLV-MK3
Iran 3 First half of 2022 Suborbital 190 km DummyE1 Safir-1D
North Korea 1April 2022
Kim Jong Un 10th Anniversary as
Chairman of the Workers' Party of Korea
Chairman of the Central Military Commission
Chairman of the State Affairs Commission
Korean People's Army Marshal
Supreme Commander of the Armed Forces
Suborbital
190 km
North Korean first astronautE1Hwasong-15E1
Iran 4 Mid-2022 Suborbital
190 km
Dummy E1 Safir-1D
India 2 June 2022 Orbital flight Dummy Gaganyaan-2 GSLV-MK3
India 3 2022
Indian Republic 75 years of Independence
Orbital flight Indian First crew of astronauts Gaganyaan-3 GSLV-MK3
Iran 5 11 February 2023
Anniversary of the Islamic Revolution Victory
(Shanbeh, 22 Bahman 1401)
Suborbital 190 km Iran's first astronaut E1 Safir-1D
Iran 6 2024 Orbital flight
220 km
Dummy E2? Sarir-1B?
North Korea 22024Orbital flight
220 km
North Korean first Orbital flightE2?Unha-9E2
Japan 12025Suborbital flight
100 km
Japanese first indigenous crewed flight NA Pegasus
North Korea 32025Orbital flight
220 km
North Korean first space walk E2?Unha-9E2
North Korea 42029Orbital flight
350 km
North Korean first crew of 3 astronautsF1?Unha-XF1

Conclusion, in 2022, India's ISRO would have to launch 2 spacecrafts, that is the crewless Gaganyaan-2 then the crewed Gaganyaan-3, all these in less than 4 months, if it doesn't want to concede the 4th place to North Korea!

Obviously impossible!


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After analysing the future winner of this manned space race for the 4th place through various filters:

• 1. Green Light And Historical Milestones As Prerequisites For A Manned Suborbital Flight V1.0
• 2. Space Sci-fi movie development as rule of thumb (censored, please google for mirror)
• 3. Rare Earth Reserve among the future manned space powers (censored, please google for mirror)
• 4. Natural balanced rock wonders among the future manned space powers
• 5. Mega-buildings among the future manned space powers
• 6. Artistic representation of space shuttles among the future manned space powers V1.0.

Today, we will use a 7th biometric filter to confirm our previous conclusions:

7. State Leader's Body Weight And World Ranking

World leaders are chosen to be mediatic figures, watched by billions of commoners worldwide.

Therefore physical aspect is paramount. It is representative of a nation's health and status.

It showcases its economical, diplomatical, cultural influences as well as its scientifical strenght and techological level, and overall military might.

North Korean leader has no health symptoms despite being overweight: spy agency
All News 17:22 November 03, 2020
SEOUL, Nov. 3 (Yonhap) -- North Korean leader Kim Jong Un has gained a substantial amount of weight each year since taking power in the country in late 2011 but remains free from any serious health symptoms, according to the South Korean spy agency Tuesday.
"Kim Jong Un currently weighs in the 140 kilogram range after having gained an average of 6 to 7 kilograms per year over the past eight years since weighing 90 kilograms in August of 2012," Ha quoted the spy agency as reporting.

Rating

North Korea's leader, Kim Jong Un is a super heavyweight at 140 kg. Unparalleled. And it keeps gaining 7 kg per year! Thus confirming its leading position in this manned space race.

Turkey's leader, Recep Tayyip Erdogan is estimated to weight between 81 kg to 85 kg. This makes it a cruiserweight and in the second best position in this manned space race.

India's leader, Narendra Modi is rated between 70 kg and 78 kg. Thess huge fluctuations might indicate some inconsistencies that might affect negatively India's manned space ambitions!

Japan's leader, Yoshihide Suga once weighted over 77 kg but after 4 month of exercise it sank to only 63 kg. This case indicates that Japan could beat India in the manned space race but without certainty, or lose it to Iran and even Burma!

Iran's leader, Hassan Rouhani has a body weight between 72 kg and 75 kg. While lightweight, it might challenge India at some times in the future!

Burma's leader, Aung San Suu Kyi is a light welterweight, with only 62 kg. This might indicate that a leader change is required before any manned space flight could be attempted in the future.


Finally, some contender might try to cheat! But does any victory in the cybersphere impact the physical world?

A contender that is still struggling to place its first satellite into orbit, and that might suffer the same fate of Jean de la Fontaine's frog which, in its desire to make itself as big as an ox, bursts into pieces!

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https://archive.vn/qyXVz/a3b9eb95437ec0360ec274c19dc55a3feb056499.png ; https://archive.vn/qyXVz/0f6383c92dc8a19386d3181a3e3a5d3c329f254c/scr.png ; http://web.archive.org/web/20201120005145/https://twitter.com/jairbolsonaro/status/1329113457694830597 ; https://archive.vn/a6t2y ; http://web.archive.org/web/20201120101812/https://i.imgur.com/czeyFQN.png
1. A contender that is still struggling to place its first satellite into orbit, and that might suffer the same fate of Jean de la Fontaine's frog which, in its desire to make itself as big as an ox, bursts into pieces!

Jair M. Bolsonaro @jairbolsonaro
Capitão do Exército Brasileiro, eleito 38° Presidente da República Federativa do Brasil.
6:25 PM · Nov 18, 2020·Twitter
http://web.archive.org/web/20201120005145/https://twitter.com/jairbolsonaro/status/1329113457694830597 ; https://archive.vn/a6t2y


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All clear for North Korea becoming the only 4th nation in the world to send a man into space by its own effort!

Indeed, India's ISRO has just hinted that it could only throw in the towel, being no longer able to compete in this manned space race, while totally crumbling under an uncontrollable COVID-19 pandemic!

First crewless Gaganyaan flight only by end of 2021
Chethan Kumar / TNN / Updated: Nov 19, 2020, 11:23 IST
BENGALURU: The first crewless flight as part of the preparations for the ambitious Gaganyaan project originally planned for this year and then pushed to the first half of 2021 due to Covid-19, will now only happen at the end of next year. Isro will eventually also launch a second crewless flight, now scheduled for 2022 before launching humans into space.
Isro chairman K Sivan told TOI that the process of human rating is progressing well and is expected to be complete in the second half of next year. TOI was the first to report the postponement of the crewless/unmanned flight and also the fact that the human mission too is likely to miss its original deadline.
As part of the unmanned flight, Isro plans to send a humanoid (developed indigenously). In June, when it became clear that the first crewless flight won’t happen this year, Sivan had said: “Whether we will launch two unmanned missions next year will depend on the emerging situations, we will have to decide based on what happens in the coming months. If Covid effects continue further, we may have to revisit some of our plans.” It is now apparent that Isro will only be able to launch one crewless flight next year.

World's Manned Space Race For The 4th Place

Mission Launch dateAltitude CrewSpacecraft Launcher
Iran 1 First half of 2021 Suborbital 190 km DummyE1Safir-1D
Iran 2 Mid-2021 Suborbital
190 km
DummyE1Safir-1D
India 1 December 2021 Orbital flight Dummy Gaganyaan-1 GSLV-MK3
Iran 3 First half of 2022 Suborbital 190 km DummyE1 Safir-1D
North Korea 1April 2022
Kim Jong Un 10th Anniversary as
Chairman of the Workers' Party of Korea
Chairman of the Central Military Commission
Chairman of the State Affairs Commission
Korean People's Army Marshal
Supreme Commander of the Armed Forces
Suborbital
190 km
North Korean first astronautE1Hwasong-15E1
Iran 4 Mid-2022 Suborbital
190 km
Dummy E1 Safir-1D
India 2 June 2022 Orbital flight Dummy Gaganyaan-2 GSLV-MK3
India 3 2022
Indian Republic 75 years of Independence
Orbital flight Indian First crew of astronauts Gaganyaan-3 GSLV-MK3
Iran 5 11 February 2023
Anniversary of the Islamic Revolution Victory
(Shanbeh, 22 Bahman 1401)
Suborbital 190 km Iran's first astronaut E1 Safir-1D
Iran 6 2024 Orbital flight
220 km
Dummy E2? Sarir-1B?
North Korea 22024Orbital flight
220 km
North Korean first Orbital flightE2?Unha-9E1
Japan 12025Suborbital flight
100 km
Japanese first indigenous crewed flightNAPegasus
North Korea 32025Orbital flight
220 km
North Korean first space walk E2?Unha-9E1
North Korea 42029Orbital flight
350 km
North Korean first crew of 3 astronautsF1?Unha-XE2

Conclusion, in 2022, India's ISRO would have to launch 2 spacecrafts, that is the crewless Gaganyaan-2 then the crewed Gaganyaan-3, all these in less than 4 months, if it doesn't want to concede the 4th place to North Korea!

Obviously impossible!


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Source of North Korea manned space launch? Impossible to verify what you said,
 
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Supada or whatever is the name of Pakistani science & technology organization should also be a part of launching satellites.
 
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Source of North Korea manned space launch? Impossible to verify what you said,


Galactic Penguin SST said on Oct 18, 2020

Is it only me or it seems that some here really act as if they were on the wikipedia pages:

1. Delete all sources that substantiates the contributor's edit. Use the lack of credibility of the source as an excuse.

2. Delete everything else the contributor has posted under the pretence of missing sources, as it is compromising the official wikipedia's line.

3. Then ban the contributor that protest, under some fallacious fabricated double standards reason.

4. Use armies of professional trolls to disinform at will by the old playbook according to the official propaganda's line as nobody even remembers of the truth previously exposed by the banned contributor.

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/iranian-second-space-strategic-rocket-launch-center.350247/post-12755514

Bro, it is not allowed to double post. Proof, mines were deleted by the mod and with a warning!

But of course professional posters here are multi-posting the same articles as they please...

Meanwhile, as for North Korea, again the informations were posted on page 1 of this same thread!

Han Ho Seok | tongil@tongilnews.com 2012.12.31:
Kim Jong Un seems to include a plan to launch a manned spacewalk as well as a lunar exploration satellite in the chairman's first plan for space conquest. The model of the Unha-9 built next to the stage of the 2012.12.21 ballroom is not rocket model for manned space flight. Chairman Kim Jong Un will carry out a step-by-step implementation of the space conquest plan to launch a manned spacewalk on the new type of carrier rocket Unha-10, which is totally different from the Unha-9 model. It is to be realized in the future. In the 10 years period from 2012 to 2022.

Sources:

http://web.archive.org/web/20201118094219/https://en.yna.co.kr/view/AEN20200704003200320
https://archive.is/ZhbuW
http://web.archive.org/web/20191012192928/http://www.tongilnews.com/news/articleView.html?idxno=101028
http://archive.is/f5FAu
http://web.archive.org/web/20181028151902/http://www.jajusibo.com/sub_read.html?uid=29662&section=sc38
https://archive.vn/0Te62


There are more sources, you can find them in my previous posts, in the China & Far East section and Iran Defence section.

Too numerous to repost here.

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IMO the technological gap between a new 4th and the rest of the other spacefaring nation will be too wide today, is it even worth mentioning?
 
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7. State Leader's Body Weight And World Ranking


7. State Leader's Body Weight And World Ranking Part2

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1. 7th analysis through biometric filter. 2020.


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India.


North Korea is going to lag a lot due to no outside support and financial/resource restraint.

So aint happening in this generation.


This reminds one of the deluded New York Times claiming in 1903 that manned flight could not be done before a million years, and this as Korea already had performed the first propelled manned flight 4 centuries earlier!

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2. Deluded New York Times claiming in 1903 that manned flight could not be done before a million years.

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3. Mankind first ever manned rocket propelled flight by Jung Pyung Gu (정평구, 鄭平九) in 1590, and all the following manned Hwasong-15E1, Unha-IXE2, Unha-XF1, Unha-XXVII.


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A spacefaring nation is a nation which sends stuff into space including people. It is deliberately phrased to ignore ESA.
The question is not who will become fourth, the question is who will become 24th (or similar, I did not bother to count),


Why feel so unsecured? This is the very same definition imposed by Wikipedia, where I personally have contributed to the Chinese, Iranian, North Korean spaceflight articles. Spacefaring is only used to designate manned spaceflight.

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4. Psychoanalytic filter: The closest Viking thingy to a space rocket.

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Iran restarted its manned space program right after Lieutenant General Qassem Soleimani was brutally assassinated by the U.S. at Baghdad International Airport on January 03.

And this came with the announcement of the production of 5 manned suborbital E1 spacecrafts.

Again, Iranian nuclear scientist Mohsen Fakhrizadeh was killed by the enemy on 27th December 2020, sparking Iran's additional hastening of its space program:

Iran increases defense budget up to 256 %

Tuesday, 15 December 2020 15:41 [ Last Update: Tuesday, 15 December 2020 15:40 ]

Tehran (IP) - Iran’s Minister of Defense on Tuesday announced the 256 percent increase in the budget of the Research and Innovation Organization of Iran's Ministry of Defense.

Iran Press/ Iran news: Referring to the need to peruse the scientific and technical efforts of martyr Mohsen Fakhrizadeh, Brigadier General Amir Hatami highlighted that by assassinating this scientist, the enemies had been after disrupting the process of scientific movement and the speed of progress of the Islamic Republic in the field of new technologies.

Martyr Mohsen Fakhrizadeh the former head of the Research and Innovation Organization of Iran's Ministry of Defense who was one of Iran’s prominent nuclear scientists assassinated during the terrorist attack near the Iranian capital of Tehran.

Stating the fact that the Research and Innovation Organization of Iran's Ministry of Defense would make efforts more decisively than ever before, Iran’s Hatami added that all of the managers and the staff of the ministry of defense after the assassination of martyr Fakhrizadeh are more determined to move in the path of the honored martyr and the Government of the Islamic Republic, in a worthy action, increased the budget of the Defense Research and Innovation Organization by 256 percent.

The Minister of Defense and Armed Forces Logistics of the Islamic Republic of Iran also referred to the missile power of the country and stated: "Iran's missile issues have been ignored by the enemies, but they should know that the culture of martyrdom is the first of all these developments and a nation enriched with this culture, cannot be dominated and the enemy cannot overcome it."

http://web.archive.org/web/20201220104648/https://iranpress.com/content/31174
https://archive.vn/Kv1vG

This means that the prospect of witnessing a North Korean astronaut orbiting the earth within 4 years is now even increased 256%!

Iran's Atlas-Mercury SLV: Sarir-C

New hint from Iran, indicating that the I.R.I. is not only still running in the manned space race, but already actively working on its first orbital single-seater launcher, the manned Sarir (Sarir-C, an unofficial name by Galactic Penguin for more clarity), equivalent in its role to the U.S. Atlas-Mercury launcher!

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1. New image published in Iran representing a space shuttle. December 2020.

Indeed, the image published is representing a space shuttle, indicating its role in manned missions.

But this is not new from Iran. An Iranian Space Shuttle has previously figured prominently in a huge graphic that was displayed during the month of January 2019 in Tehran's Valiasr Square.


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2. An Iranian Space Shuttle has figured prominently in a huge graphic that is currently (January 2019) displayed in Tehran's Valiasr Square. The billboard is running in conjunction with the 40th anniversary of the Iranian Revolution.
Note that Sardar Shahid Hajj General Hassan Tehrani Moghaddam, the father of Iran's space program is depicted bringing a treasure trove of [NK] blueprints to his fellow countrymen!
The letters IRGM indicating that the project is run by the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (Missile Force?). 17 January 2019.


This second iteration signals the near fruition of the Iranian manned space endeavour, that is, enough to reach the disclosure to the public:

• It is fitted with two strap-on boosters, similar to the Sarir-C.

• The core booster is larger, and painted mainly in white color.

• The shuttle itself and the other rockets show also partly a new color scheme never used before by Iran. The reddish orange has only been displayed once before: during the parade of the North Korean Hwasong-16 ICBM.

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3. New pictures of the North Korean Hwasong-16 ICBM with reddish orange color scheme.

Itself, an evolution from the pinkish color scheme displayed on the North Korean artistic representation of a new rocket with strap-on boosters on 2020 New Year's Eve!

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4. Third occurrence of a depiction of a launcher with two strap-on rocket boosters. Seen in the performance of schoolchildren "Snow Falls with Blessing by Mt Paektu on New Year's Day" for Juche 109 (2020) that was given at the Mangyongdae Schoolchildren's Palace on Wednesday.


Only once before did both North Korea and Iran display the same color scheme: a lighter orange painted both on the Safir-2 SLV and the North Korean environmental shroud of the Sohae Space Center's gantry tower.

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5. North Korea and Iran displaying the same color scheme: a lighter orange painted both on the Safir-2 SLV and the North Korean environmental shroud of the Sohae Space Center's gantry tower.

This can not be mistaken, as the strong message sent to the world is that both nations are continuing to cooperate in developing more powerful space launchers, such as the first Atlas-Mercury-class rockets (Sarir-C), and beyond, the Long March 2F-class 3-seaters manned rocket (Safir-4)!

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6. Safir SLV family speculation, as of February 2020.

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https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/safir-3-space-launch-vehicle.478308/post-12858536

And this is the secret of North Korea: it grows stronger with each additional blows inflicted by the enemy on Iran!

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Indeed, the image published is representing a space shuttle, indicating its role in manned missions.

Would you stop that. They haven't even got anybody into orbit yet so a Space Shuttle type craft is a long away dream.

You may as well be talking about SpaceX terraforming Mars.
 
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I’m glad to see even with relations at a low the Iranians agree a table full of examples of cutting edge technology are with the US and not the Russians or Chinese.


Absolutely wrong.

Take a close look at the poster again: the Iranian illustrator specifically added two German Aggregat 4 (A-4) ballistic missiles in the left side to indicate the unequivocal lineage of the Iranian first orbital manned space rocket Safir-C!

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1. Schematics of a German Aggregat 4 (A-4) ballistic missile.

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2. New image published in Iran representing a space shuttle. December 2020.

This means it is the opposite that is true, and that the U.S. owes all its first generation Redstone and Jupiter rockets to foreign stolen (captured) technologies and the abduction of thousands of German engineers and scientist (Operation Papaerclip).:omghaha:

On the contrary, Iran owes nothing to the U.S. in this field.

Would you stop that. They haven't even got anybody into orbit yet so a Space Shuttle type craft is a long away dream.

And again the space shuttle is not representing a real spacecraft, it is only the universal practice, that includes China, North Korea, India, Turkey and Myanmar, to announce the existence of an indigenous manned space program!

We notice thas this frantic reply of yours betrays fear, justified as knowing that the sudden 256% increase of funding in the Iranian space program will inevitably bear fruit within months!

It would not be a surprise at all if for the next Islamic Revolution Victory celebration of Bahman 22, during the week of 11th February 2021, Iran attempts to launch the first of its 5 suborbital manned spacecrafts into space!:lol:

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And again the space shuttle is not representing a real spacecraft, it is only the universal practice, that includes China, North Korea, India, Turkey and Myanmar, to announce the existence of an indigenous manned space program!

Ah! Interesting how a US spacecraft is now the generic icon of Space progress. :tup:

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Soon to be this Flash Gordon craft I guess.
 
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iran launches propaganda style dreams of a manned space program, while denying that it is to support a long range ICBM weapon program? bs.
 
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