when MQM raised voice about talibanisation of karachi it had to face ethnic discrimination

[Jaanbaz]

Highlighted the parts which people cant seem to swallow


Relax dear thats called blind aiming and shooting...

So are you a Mirpuri mangaitar or a Lahori jeb katray?
Did you mean Altaf? Is he the only Mohajir? Or do you mean the MQM supporters are they the only mohajirs? Nope they are only a portion who have lived in self pity for 60+ years! Seriously get out of this grief game and smell some fresh air...I am not sure why you cant live like a normal Pakistani without chest thumping the Mohajir title?

Watch your mouth will you...The Mohajirs cant seem to integrate hence "differentiating" themselves with a title and self pity! Had you integrated and said we the Pakistanis demand some right it would have made sense...Why should anyone listen to "mohajir" (which mind you means those who migrate)? Where are you going to migrate next? If you are done migrating, remove your title please! Why cant you part with the pathetic title? Why must you address yourselves as Mohajir and demand rights? Why cant you address yourself as Pakistanis?

Actually mohajirs should now be called Urduwan. We have to make a identity to unite our people. Urduwan should be the term to refer to native Urdu Speakers. We are no longer mohajirs.

Also please read some history it was urdu Speakers who was running your Pakistan. Urdu Speakers are the most educated ethnic group of Pakistan. It was Ayub Khan who started the ethnic wars in Karachi. As Urdu Speakers naturally supported Madare-milat in elections, the fascist and racist Ayub Khan sent pathans from NWFP in trains to attack Urdu Speaking neighborhoods in Karachi. Many Mohajirs were killed and injured, houses and property were burnt. But still Urdu Speakers never raised rebellion against the state. How long until your racist establishment tested our patience? MQM is just a response to racism started by Punjabi and pushtoon dominated establishment. Your racist establishment cornered bengalis and considered them dark skinned and not worthy of fighting back and see how they took their rights. If you do the same to Urdu Speakers consider that Urdu Speakers are more wealthier and educated then bengalis, we know exactly knkow how to get what we want.

 

[Dubious]

Actually mohajirs should now be called Urduwan. We have to make a identity to unite our people. Urduwan should be the term to refer to native Urdu Speakers. We are no longer mohajirs.

Some disagree...Mind you Urdu is already recognized as a National language...yet some people fail to see anything when they want to turn a blind eye!

Also please read some history it was urdu Speakers who was running your Pakistan. Urdu Speakers are the most educated ethnic group of Pakistan.

That is the problem with you lot...pride it really makes one look very small!

It was Ayub Khan who started the ethnic wars in Karachi. As Urdu Speakers naturally supported Madare-milat in elections, the fascist and racist Ayub Khan sent pathans from NWFP in trains to attack Urdu Speaking neighborhoods in Karachi.

Look there is no point pointing at Ayub Khan or some dead general....secondly, there is no proof .... lastly, being educated why on earth would you have fallen for this and pledged allegiance to the British passport can say anything you like to my Pakistan....but the truth is clear you left the country when in dire need...Educated or not you left is all one will see!

Being educated why would you "naturally support" one party? Why not give another a chance...that itself is discrimination! So dont talk about others you lot did discrimination as well!

Plus do you actually believe that Karachi only had mohajirs and rest only came from other cities? Was Karachi emptied for you lot? No Karachi had tons of other ethnicity which you people tried to suppress by showing off your label! The rest of the ethnics actually called themselves Pakistani while you keep going Mohajirs or Urdu Speakers never calling yourself Pakistanis...

Many Mohajirs were killed and injured, houses and property were burnt. But still Urdu Speakers never raised rebellion against the state.

Yea you just ruined Karachi and turned it into a crap pile! The beautiful city....Had you people just called yourselves Pakistani and not started drawing lines left and right...Please acknowledge your own faults too...it wasnt a one way street!

How long until your racist establishment tested our patience?

We know the answer not long coz you have a British passport which takes about 5-10 yrs depending on your skills and also which rules applied to you....so your patience was really superficial...no point crying crocodile tears there...but the mess done in Karachi seems permanent...

MQM is just a response to racism started by Punjabi and pushtoon dominated establishment. Your racist establishment cornered bengalis and considered them dark skinned and not worthy of fighting back and see how they took their rights. If you do the same to Urdu Speakers consider that Urdu Speakers are more wealthier and educated then bengalis, we know exactly knkow how to get what we want.

You people are truly ungrateful arent you lot? I mean Urdu language is recognized yet in return Pakistan lost a city to wars.
All you people talk about is breaking Pakistan instead of ideas to cure the spread of disease

 

[Slayer786]

I have met many people in Karachi, who call themselves punjabis or Pashtuns or sindhis or Balochs. I dont know which part of Karachi people have been living in, but the reality is that it is pretty much divided on ethnic lines and just blaming the urdu speaking wont help.
Tali do haat say baj ti hain.

 

[Jaanbaz]

Some disagree...Mind you Urdu is already recognized as a National language...yet some people fail to see anything when they want to turn a blind eye!
That is the problem with you lot...pride it really makes one look very small!

Look there is no point pointing at Ayub Khan or some dead general....secondly, there is no proof .... lastly, being educated why on earth would you have fallen for this and pledged allegiance to the British passport can say anything you like to my Pakistan....but the truth is clear you left the country when in dire need...Educated or not you left is all one will see!

Being educated why would you "naturally support" one party? Why not give another a chance...that itself is discrimination! So dont talk about others you lot did discrimination as well!

Plus do you actually believe that Karachi only had mohajirs and rest only came from other cities? Was Karachi emptied for you lot? No Karachi had tons of other ethnicity which you people tried to suppress by showing off your label! The rest of the ethnics actually called themselves Pakistani while you keep going Mohajirs or Urdu Speakers never calling yourself Pakistanis...

Yea you just ruined Karachi and turned it into a crap pile! The beautiful city....Had you people just called yourselves Pakistani and not started drawing lines left and right...Please acknowledge your own faults too...it wasnt a one way street!

We know the answer not long coz you have a British passport which takes about 5-10 yrs depending on your skills and also which rules applied to you....so your patience was really superficial...no point crying crocodile tears there...but the mess done in Karachi seems permanent...



You people are truly ungrateful aren't you lot? I mean Urdu language is recognized yet in return Pakistan lost a city to wars.
All you people talk about is breaking Pakistan instead of ideas to cure the spread of disease

Bury your head in ignorance. Ayub Khan was a racist lunatic who sent pathan gangs to kill and loot people in Karachi. Why did Ayub Khan change the capital from Karachi to Rawalpindi and then to Islamabad? because he knew well the Karachi as a capital would develop a lot and bring in more development to surrounding areas. The Punjabi establishment couldn't have that.
Punjabi establishment tried to suppress Bengalis,and that broke the country in half. Now the same racist establishment is doing the same to Balochis and Urdu Speakers. Why do you have a problem with us speaking for same rights as a punjabi or a pushtoon?. As i said before MQM is a response to years of iron fist policies on the people of Karachi. Now the Establishment is deliberately sending pathan refugees from Waziristan to disturb the demographics of Karachi.

 

[Dubious]

Bury your head in ignorance. Ayub Khan was a racist lunatic who sent pathan gangs to kill and loot people in Karachi. Why did Ayub Khan change the capital from Karachi to Rawalpindi and then to Islamabad? because he knew well the Karachi as a capital would develop a lot and bring in more development to surrounding areas. The Punjabi establishment couldn't have that.
Punjabi establishment tried to suppress Bengalis,and that broke the country in half. Now the same racist establishment is doing the same to Balochis and Urdu Speakers. Why do you have a problem with us speaking for same rights as a punjabi or a pushtoon?. As i said before MQM is a response to years of iron fist policies on the people of Karachi. Now the Establishment is deliberately sending pathan refugees from Waziristan to disturb the demographics of Karachi.

You see I dont have a problem with you people but I def have a problem with your sick self pitying and blaming mentality...And also your racism of how you call each person based on where they lived or the language they speak...I never called an Urdu speaker as Urdu speaker because they are Pakistanis unless you refuse to be called one....

As for your mentality that the country is after you and hence you need to rip it apart...Its pure disgusting and a far cry of what your ancestors came for....They saw a dream called Pakistan while you lot try to tear it into as many pieces as possible and then call yourselves "educated"... How different are you from the uneducated who are doing the same?

Please come out of the "war" or they are out there to get me trauma!

I have met many people in Karachi, who call themselves punjabis or Pashtuns or sindhis or Balochs. I dont know which part of Karachi people have been living in, but the reality is that it is pretty much divided on ethnic lines and just blaming the urdu speaking wont help.
Tali do haat say baj ti hain.

No one is blaming them but they themselves keep crying Urdu speakers ko yeh hoa, Hum Urdu speakers....I know one too many who left Karachi ("Urdu speakers") who dont wish to be addressed with that term as they saw what it did to Karachi ...

 

[Jaanbaz]

You see I dont have a problem with you people but I def have a problem with your sick self pitying and blaming mentality...And also your racism of how you call each person based on where they lived or the language they speak...I never called an Urdu speaker as Urdu speaker because they are Pakistanis unless you refuse to be called one....

As for your mentality that the country is after you and hence you need to rip it apart...Its pure disgusting and a far cry of what your ancestors came for....They saw a dream called Pakistan while you lot try to tear it into as many pieces as possible and then call yourselves "educated"... How different are you from the uneducated who are doing the same?

Please come out of the "war" or they are out there to get me trauma!


No one is blaming them but they themselves keep crying Urdu speakers ko yeh hoa, Hum Urdu speakers....I know one too many who left Karachi ("Urdu speakers") who dont wish to be addressed with that term as they saw what it did to Karachi ...

Who is kidnapping young Urdu Speaking men and chopping their heads off? If you think that we should sit back and get killed by baloch gangsters, ttp pathans and punjabi isi kidnapping mqm supporters then remember we know how to fight and take our rights. Our ancestors made a mistake by leaving everything behind for what? to see their children get beheaded and burnt in buses. Get kidnapped by agencies just because they speak Urdu?

 

[Dubious]

Who is kidnapping young Urdu Speaking men and chopping their heads off?

This is happening to every single person so stop forming groups and trying to justify your victim complex! It is happening on every level from religious groups to ethnic groups! This is why I am asking everyone to call themselves Pakistani and Muslim that way you wont be killed based on ethnicity nor Religious groups...

If you think that we should sit back and get killed by baloch gangsters, ttp pathans and punjabi isi kidnapping mqm supporters then remember we know how to fight and take our rights.

Rights are given Only to Pakistanis not those who want to call themselves something else and then cry that they have no rights...No expat has the rights of a local! Call yourselves local first and stop this pity game!

Our ancestors made a mistake by leaving everything behind for what?

If it was a mistake go fix it and go back...I never said my ancestors made any mistake coz I aint going no where! You think its a mistake go back and fix it...stop the drama!

to see their children get beheaded and burnt in buses. Get kidnapped by agencies just because they speak Urdu?

Mind you equal number of Pashtoons and Punjabis are killed in the killing city of Karachi (yes that is what you blood suckers have made it)...That is what MQM thugs has made it...

When this political level of crap looses its selfish nature and start behaving at National level for Pakistan then call yourselves son of soil...Selfish disgusting leaches! Pata nai kiya sooch kay aai thay that Pakistan is an empty piece of land all for themselves and no one else? You people kill and expect no revenge? Weird and then you call yourselves educated? Show me the difference between you educated and any crying villager who takes an eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth!

I have no problem with any ethnicity because of the various people living in Pakistan it is called Pakistan not Punjabistan nor Sidhistan nor Muhajiristan....So wake up first! And leave the poor land alone...use your brains all your barbaric selfish thinking is leading to a problematic Pakistan nothing else!

 

[Jaanbaz]

This is happening to every single person so stop forming groups and trying to justify your victim complex! It is happening on every level from religious groups to ethnic groups! This is why I am asking everyone to call themselves Pakistani and Muslim that way you wont be killed based on ethnicity nor Religious groups...
Rights are given Only to Pakistanis not those who want to call themselves something else and then cry that they have no rights...No expat has the rights of a local! Call yourselves local first and stop this pity game!
If it was a mistake go fix it and go back...I never said my ancestors made any mistake coz I aint going no where! You think its a mistake go back and fix it...stop the drama!

Mind you equal number of Pashtoons and Punjabis are killed in the killing city of Karachi (yes that is what you blood suckers have made it)...That is what MQM thugs has made it...

When this political level of crap looses its selfish nature and start behaving at National level for Pakistan then call yourselves son of soil...Selfish disgusting leaches! Pata nai kiya sooch kay aai thay that Pakistan is an empty piece of land all for themselves and no one else? You people kill and expect no revenge? Weird and then you call yourselves educated? Show me the difference between you educated and any crying villager who takes an eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth!

I have no problem with any ethnicity because of the various people living in Pakistan it is called Pakistan not Punjabistan nor Sidhistan nor Muhajiristan....So wake up first! And leave the poor land alone...use your brains all your barbaric selfish thinking is leading to a problematic Pakistan nothing else!

I am a barbarian for speaking for equal rights for Urdu Speakers? but Taliban are our lost brothers right? See the double standards.

 

[Dubious]

I am a barbarian for speaking for equal rights for Urdu Speakers? but Taliban are our lost brothers right? See the double standards.

You want to be compared to a Taliban? Wow...you really raise your standards [sarcasm incase you didnt notice..]

Sadly in your self pity you have failed to realize not every Pakistani is a Taliban supporter it is not MQM or Taliban...people have their own thoughts too...not just what the media preaches you...BTW, why worry you already pledge allegiance to the British throne stop messing in our country!

 

[American Pakistani]

How come a Punjabi can call himself Punjabi, Sindhi can call himself Sindhi, Baloch can call himself Baloch, Pushtun can call himself Pushtun, Kashmiri can call himself Kashmiri, Seraiki can call himself Seraiki, Hazara can call himself Hazara, Gilgiti or Balti can call themselves Gilgiti or Baltit, etc etc & still not get questioned on their patriotism...but if Urduwan/Muhajir call himself Urduwan or Karachitie or Muhajir he is awarded with names...why double standards?

I've explained a thousand times that Muhajir/Urduwan/Karachitie is the term used for internal politics just like other Pakistani ethnic groups use their ethnic terms. If you wanna remove this term then first start removing all other ethnic terms. People need to stop targeting, oppressing & singling out one certain group...it is not healthy sign.

 

[Armstrong]

How come a Punjabi can call himself Punjabi, Sindhi can call himself Sindhi, Baloch can call himself Baloch, Pushtun can call himself Pushtun, Kashmiri can call himself Kashmiri, Seraiki can call himself Seraiki, Hazara can call himself Hazara, Gilgiti or Balti can call themselves Gilgiti or Baltit, etc etc & still not get questioned on their patriotism...but if Urduwan/Muhajir call himself Urduwan or Karachitie or Muhajir he is awarded with names...why double standards?

I've explained a thousand times that Muhajir/Urduwan/Karachitie is the term used for internal politics just like other Pakistani ethnic groups use their ethnic terms. If you wanna remove this term then first start removing all other ethnic terms. People need to stop targeting, oppressing & singling out one certain group...it is not healthy sign.

Probably because a person born in Pakistan calling himself a Muhajir - an Immigrant, even 65 years after the country was created & he never really immigrated from anywhere...it was his Grandparents or his Parents who did the Immigrating to a yet-to-be-created-country, is weird !

Plus Muhajir is not an Ethnicity nor is an Urdu speaker !

 

[Bratva]

How come a Punjabi can call himself Punjabi, Sindhi can call himself Sindhi, Baloch can call himself Baloch, Pushtun can call himself Pushtun, Kashmiri can call himself Kashmiri, Seraiki can call himself Seraiki, Hazara can call himself Hazara, Gilgiti or Balti can call themselves Gilgiti or Baltit, etc etc & still not get questioned on their patriotism...but if Urduwan/Muhajir call himself Urduwan or Karachitie or Muhajir he is awarded with names...why double standards?

I've explained a thousand times that Muhajir/Urduwan/Karachitie is the term used for internal politics just like other Pakistani ethnic groups use their ethnic terms. If you wanna remove this term then first start removing all other ethnic terms. People need to stop targeting, oppressing & singling out one certain group...it is not healthy sign.

The ethnicity of muhajirs is Bihari right?

 

[Porus]

How come a Punjabi can call himself Punjabi, Sindhi can call himself Sindhi, Baloch can call himself Baloch, Pushtun can call himself Pushtun, Kashmiri can call himself Kashmiri, Seraiki can call himself Seraiki, Hazara can call himself Hazara, Gilgiti or Balti can call themselves Gilgiti or Baltit, etc etc & still not get questioned on their patriotism...but if Urduwan/Muhajir call himself Urduwan or Karachitie or Muhajir he is awarded with names...why double standards?

I've explained a thousand times that Muhajir/Urduwan/Karachitie is the term used for internal politics just like other Pakistani ethnic groups use their ethnic terms. If you wanna remove this term then first start removing all other ethnic terms. People need to stop targeting, oppressing & singling out one certain group...it is not healthy sign.

You can call yourselves Moahir there is nothing wrong with it, but I expect no one will ever blame the "sons of the soils" for imposing this identity on your folk. You can also call yourselves Karachites but it would simply mean a person who lives in Karachi, therefore the people of other non-Urdu speaking communities living in Karachi are also Karachites. Urduwan sounds very un-urdu btw, and I am sure if I ever call any Mohajir an Urduwan in Karachi he/she will definitely think who the fok is that animal, never heard before - and it will also be a big injustice to the Urdu lovers from Punjab, those guys have already assured themselves that Urdu is as theirs as Lassi. May I suggest something that sounds very catchy and very Urduish? What about "Urdu zoban bolne wale Mohajir"?

 

[pak-marine]

@W.11 rightly said , you can check at PDF we exchanged so many posts arguing the same .. this is a fact MQM was accused of racism and murder of pushtuns in karachi , shahi syed of ANP was non stop on tv now he and his party are kicked out of his constituency ... what a bunch of idiots we have !!

 

[Slayer786]

Hopefully the next generation of our citizens will not judge anyone based on their ethnicity. They will judge them on their deeds. We all deserve respect but for some it is still a struggle to be accepted. I personally believe that I should be known as a SIndhi as I am from Karachi. But people can add terms like Urdu-speaking Sindhi.
The regret is that we all should have learnt Sindhi with urdu so as to forge a strong unity with our Sindhi brothers.