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We need two more years to defeat Pakistan | Subramanian Swamy

Hindus alone in India 1 billion.Muslims around world 1.6 billion so 1=1 and half per person.How does that ratio work out?or are you going to sprout that 1 pakistani=6 Indians BS, as we all know how it ended whenever oyr armies met and the 4 wars they fought.:)
Are you idiot by birth or did it happened after wards.
So according to your logic 1 billion Hindus are in one country and 1.6 billion muslims are in 52 muslims countries. So much easier to target one country "India" instead of 52 countries.

With idiots like you in India, no one needs to nuke you.
 
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Are extremists like hafiz sayeed, zaid hamid, salauddin, mohd hafiz, baghdadi calling for jihad against India?
yes they do, and along with them a few million loonies too.
Hafiz Saeed and salahuddin are Kashimri Freedom fighter supporters. They have every right to fight for the cause they believe in. Kill them if you can, simple.
However , the ISIS idiots are claiming very tall. Don't get surprize if they include Moon and planet mars in their caliphate map.

Will the jihadi scum flow from CA, afghanistan through pakistan into india?
yes it will - there is no other route.
The Kashmiri Jihadis are already in India . Stop worrying about ISIS, They are very far, They are nothing but militia with Sunni tribal support. They can't stand against any regular army.

Does India anticipate terrorists along with pak regular troops attacking Indian territory again?
yes we do. Similar to what happened in 65, 99 etc.
We are also facing such attacks from India in Fata areas and Baluchistan.
We also faced similar aggression from India during 1971 war and in Siachen

Do we anticipate a major terrorist attack on Indian soil directed from Pakistan?
yes we do - there are multiple anti India terrorist organizations in pakistan run by the pakistani state and intelligence.
Don't complain, catch them if you can. Stop cry and behave like men.

Will either a jihaadi invasion or a major terrorist attack on India metamorphose into a indo pak war?
No chance , if indians have guts, they would have easily attacked Pakistan after Parliament attack, mumabi attack, and at multiple ocasions. India pulled back after parliament attack after one year stand off at the boarders.

Does pakistan pose a danger as in - becoming a terror hub for the world, become a islamic ruled islamic state, khorasan, caliph run amalgamation? There are dangers of that happening because it has been on the brink for a while.
Meray Chanda. You are a genius. an absolute strategic genius.
 
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His daughter married a muslim guy against his wish. He is since upset ..very very upset.....

Please have some sympathy for him.
 
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To make India reliant on China, there is no puzzle here, just one that you're making up from the top of your head. Really, how do you think investments work?

By the way, it's the size of the economies and populations that dictate how much a organization or nation invests in the target market. India has a larger population, and bigger economy, so China expects a larger return, but in order to do that, it must invest a lot too. Pakistan just can't compete at that level.

Having said that, what Pakistan is offering China cannot be replaced by India. If you can offer China a better route than Gwadar, and give up your global ambitions, not to mention give up your regional and global rivalry, then you'll find that China will be cooperative.

As far as China is considered, as long as India remains a rival, Pakistan is needed as a counter balance to keep India preoccupied. No amount of land or deals will change that fact, unless (like I said before) India gives up it's ambitions.
Incorrect train of thought. Even if China were to build a pipeline from say Kandla port to China, it would not in any way make India give up its global ambitions.
The logic that India has to give up its global ambitions to offer China ports and roads is a massive falacy. Both can proceed equally and without impinging on the other.

It is obvious that as long as India remains a rival, Pakistan is needed as a counter balance. However, a counter balance is of different levels. Pakistan is simply not in the weight category to be an equal counter balance and be able to confine India's global ambitions, if anything the last decade has proved this to both China and the world which till a 1.5 decades back used to equate India and Pakistan.

What you are missing here is that China has over 180 nations to invest in it. And investing its single largest amount in one country suggests something that you are acutely missing - that China is hedging its bets.

It wants good relations with India and is willing to put money where it is not willing to put its mouth - yet. On the other hand with Pakistan, China is willing to put its mouth but not its money(any significant amount). There is something that Pakistani's keep missing when thinking of India China relations. You presume our rivalry is like India Pakistan. It is not, India and China has no significant dispute, no ideological dispute. Our only dispute is land, and while we both lay claim to what is in each others control, we have never fired a single bullet in the last 3 decades even when troops met. The border with China is the most peaceful border India has!
We both understand that eventually we will keep what is in our control respectively.
If India gives up it's ambitions, than Pakistan and India have no real problems, so a war would be next to pointless.

So your entire train of thought is pointless. It's simple logic, based on geopolitical realities.
Completely wrong. Even if India gave up its global ambitions, Pakistan would continue to remain a hostile entity to India. Because our global ambitions have nothing to do with Kashmir. We would still never let Kashmir go.

You make your Army sound as if all it wants is to stop India from becoming a global power. That is completely incorrect. What Pakistan really wants is to ensure that it gets Kashmir, and keeps damaging India for a lot of reasons - including religious and ideological ones. That means not just stop India from becoming a global power but actively reduce India and keep chipping away what it has.

So our global ambitions or not, Pakistan would continue its current course that it has chosen for the last 3 decades. Consequently, our response to Pakistan would also be the same. The only change that would happen and is inevitable is that India and China would resolve our land boundary and Pakistan would be left anchorless in its ambitions against India. Because China is not going to damage its investment worth hundreds of billions of dollars in India for Pakistan
 
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Same idiot was asked by the Israelis to spread propaganda in order to approve air bases in India to launch attacks against Pakistan's nuclear infrastructure.
 
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I can see Pakistanis are scared of Subbu. Lol. Lot of scared voices in this thread. Pretty understandable tho. lol

Scared of what looks like a doped out pensioner with fantasies that could rival any Hollywood film. If you say so....o_O
 
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Scared of what looks like a doped out pensioner with fantasies that could rival any Hollywood film. If you say so....o_O

@waz subramanian swamy is a motor mouth who frequently makes outlandish claims. This is actually by his standars a moderate boast.

He has also been more bitter ever since his daughter married a Muslim Man. :-)
 
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It was not against his wishes. At that time he was a secularist. His daughter and son-in-law continue to live at his place. So he is not anti-Muslim at all.

He's not anti Muslim, however he's definately anti Indian. No one in their right mind would ever think that killing a 100 million of his own countrymen to fulfill a religious fantacy is 'no problem'.
 
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He's not anti Muslim, however he's definately anti Indian. No one in their right mind would ever think that killing a 100 million of his own countrymen to fulfill a religious fantacy is 'no problem'.

Nah, he can never be anti-Indian. He did not say that it is great that 100 million will get killed. All his intent was to convey that India should not give into Pakistan's blackmail about nuclear weapons. That it must do what it has to do. That is no different from the quote in our religious book Bhagwat Gita (The Song of the Lord) where Krishna exhorts Arjun to fight fearlessly without giving in to doubts as to what will happen.

There is no religious fantasy involved here though. His answer was purely in response to questions in the background of stated ambitions of various anti-India forces. He does not favor Akhand Bharat if that is your worry.

@waz subramanian swamy is a motor mouth who frequently makes outlandish claims. This is actually by his standars a moderate boast.

He has also been more bitter ever since his daughter married a Muslim Man. :-)

Subramanian Swamy has accomplished more in his life than you can ever hope to achieve. He is also 100 times a patriot Indian than you can ever be.
 
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Hafiz Saeed and salahuddin are Kashimri Freedom fighter supporters. They have every right to fight for the cause they believe in. Kill them if you can, simple.
However , the ISIS idiots are claiming very tall. Don't get surprize if they include Moon and planet mars in their caliphate map.


The Kashmiri Jihadis are already in India . Stop worrying about ISIS, They are very far, They are nothing but militia with Sunni tribal support. They can't stand against any regular army.


We are also facing such attacks from India in Fata areas and Baluchistan.
We also faced similar aggression from India during 1971 war and in Siachen


Don't complain, catch them if you can. Stop cry and behave like men.


No chance , if indians have guts, they would have easily attacked Pakistan after Parliament attack, mumabi attack, and at multiple ocasions. India pulled back after parliament attack after one year stand off at the boarders.


Meray Chanda. You are a genius. an absolute strategic genius.

You are not making much sense in your replies, anyways lets carry on..

Terrorists are those who call for jihad against India - please pardon us when we, as do the rest of the sane world equate jihad against us terrorism and the one's propagating it as terrorists.

We know there are jihadis and sleeper cells of pak sponsored terrorists in India - so you are not revealing no secret there. Terrorists are everywhere, almost in all countries where there is a sizeable Muslim population.

Pardon us again if we take the ISIS or the overall jihadi emanating from across the border or from abroad seriously, while you dont.

What you face is reactions for your actions. So pardon us when we believe in dishing out ten fold from multiple directions.

We have much much than guts - we have plans and believe in executing them and preparing for them - pardon us if we believe in winning objectives and winning the war when we will go for it.

Swamy clearly talks about Pakistan starting the war (as has always been the case).

I am not a genious, but I can, as any sane individual see where its heading to. The islami jihadis have gone insane all over the world and we know that we are one of their targets, we also know that we will have to fight them one day and we know that they will be coming from one direction only.
 
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Congratulations. I am sure when he gets an actual debrief from the Indian Strategic Command about our Nuclear posture, he would have to increase the number of Indians dead in a Pakistani nuclear strike from a 100 million to a Billion.

If we are attacked, we will unleash a sort of hell that will become a collective 'chita' of a Billion or so Indians. Pakistan has nothing to fear from a lunatic like him, Indians do.

with all due respect,not you not us probably not even some george bush ya vladimir putin ka baap has auqaat to do a nuclear strike.

Swamy is obviously trashtalking like you guys do,thats all.
 
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Aisii soch rakhnay wali Cheezain India main hi Paida hoti hain,Dunya main mazaq bannay kay liye.........:oops:
 
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