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War Stories 3 - The Best Customer in Nam

The following is a true story my dad went though during Vietnam, he told me about it one day and now I am telling you this story.

There is this wall in my home back in Kansas, this wall of photo. This wall is full of my family photo. Photo belong to my grand father, my grand mother, my father then us. In this wall of photo, it was full of history, it have a photo of my grand father drinking beer under board avenue in Paris after D-Day, the wedding photo of my grand parent in front of a church and so on.

There was this one photo my dad always look at. it was a photo with him in Vietnam. The entire cast of Pleiku Evacuation Hospital, which is where my dad served as a Navy Corpsman or a Hospital man.

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He don't talk about his time in Vietnam, only a few stories here and there when he was drunk or when he was drinking in the local chapter VFW. Not many people would talk about their time during war, I have been in one myself and as a frontline infantry, I find it hard to tell anyone what I have seen or what I have been though, when you tell someone who wasn't there, they just don't know why it happens the way it happens. To a point, I just don't bother.

My dad case is a bit different, I have no idea how or what kind of person he is before Vietnam, or as a matter of fact, before I was born, but my dad don't like to talk, period. he worked late at night and early in the morning, chances are if we saw him at home, he would be laying on his bed sleeping. I don't really know, nor can I be sure what is it that he won't share his war story.

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But being a Medic (well, that's what we call in the Army) I know for sure this is a crap job, or shite duty. I can take it when you have to make choice and kill someone, but for a medic, you deal with your own casualty, people you know, people you just talked to maybe an hour ago, and now it is a mangled piece of "human" in front of you and you have to deal with it. This is not an easy job.

So, this one night I was playing late night video game, just when I was heading to the head, I saw my dad standing in front of the wall of photo and staring at the photo with him and his mate in Pleiku. I rush to the toilet cause I was really wanting to go and comes out for a glass of water before going back to my game. And he just said

"Do you know if you made this thought the night, you're home free?"

I said "What?"

Then my dad said "All you need is to hang on for 24 hours"

I was totally confused, I don't know what the hell is he talking about at the time but I did mumble something back to him while I drink my tea.

Then he said "You think you would be numb after seeing hundreds of people got torn to pieces. But something you just never forget"

"How's that?" I ask

"You would think you will never forget the first face you saw died in front of you, but then you would be wrong" My dad said

I don't really know what got in to me, but I just sit there listen to him talk while I slowly sip my tea.
See, my dad was a corpsman, he thinks that killing people is a sin so when he was drafted, he went for the non-combatant option. The job, unlike what you see in TV or documentary, a normal Corpsman embedded within a Marine unit or Naval Ground unit and fix up casualty as they goes. They look after their own unit and when their unit start taking casualty, the corpsman will just took care of those and bunch them up to a dust off and they probably won't see them again.

Working in a hospital is a whole different ball game. There, you don't need to do combat drill, nobody, well, almost nobody is shooting at you, you have 3 hot meal a day and in your down time you can play Ping-Pong or volleyball in the court, and the only thing you need to do is to save life, not in a way a doctor perform surgery, or a nurse look after their patient, but save lives nonetheless.

71st Evacuation Hospital is a combat hospital located in Pleiku near central Vietnam. The Hospital would be a equivalent of a Role 3/4 in today standard, it is a fully equipped compound that can handle anything from sunburn to traumatic amputation.

My dad's job as a navy corpsman is an exchange personnel with the 4th ID (Which based at the 71st) is to assist the medical personnel inside the hospital, works as an orderly and also provide limited medical treatment for outpatient or not so serious case.

The hospital basically separated into 4 different compound. OR/ER department, recovery ward, ICU ward and Grave Registration. There are gates and helipad to allow ambulance and dust off to bring in casualty, obviously the more serious case would be airlifted, which is actually better than being bombarded by litter or walking wounded. As least you focus on a smaller number, instead of being overwhelmed.

It is not exactly a bad gig if you look at the down time, you get hot chow, girls, sports, barbeque and beaches where you held your own little private R&R everyday (that you are not working). Things are a bit different when there is a big operation ahead and casualty would just flown in chopper by chopper. Casualty overflown is a frequent sight in this hospital, it's a frequent sight that you will see medic, nurse and surgeon bump into each other like a blinded bumblebee.

"1 year in this place you probably see hundreds, if not thousands dead boy come by" My dad says.
It hits you for the first few body pass by you, you would be surprised to see how human can be maimed and mangled in a way you can't even make out a face. But over time, it get easier and easier, you started to focus on the job, you don't think they are human, you just think they are "some stuff" that pass by you and you have to stop the bleeding or plug hole until a nurse or doctor can take over from you.

Jobs can be crazy at time, but for the people who worked there, there are a sort of way to alleviate the pressure, people joke about the patient case, the more serious the case is, the funnier the joke is going to be. Those are not but one of the measure to see things outside of what they actually are, and how they present.

For a medic working in that place, you rotate your job as you goes, there are one corner in this hospital, you can name it whatever you like, check out counter, dispatch, point of no return or whatever you can think of, officially, there are no name on that section, but that is the shittest section in the whole hospital, that's where soldier that's too wounded, too far along to save waiting to die.

At times, that part of the hospital is the quietest part of it all, where soldier tops up with morphine and simply, letting it goes, due to the proximity of the GRU, that section was chosen particularly so that soldier died there can be transfer to GRU as quickly as possible.

"The first couple of dead is hard to look at, but as you get settle in for the job, it just happens, like you are working in a packing factory for a yogurt company, you will see the line of yogurt keep coming from the assembly line. Same things happen in that hospital"

He can't remember the first man, I should say, body that came up to him, not a facial feature, skin colour or eye colour he can tell you. Just too many have come thru during his stay, body started to look all the same to him. Then you would wonder, what kind of dead he would remember?

One night, after a big Ops happening in Central Highland. My dad was rotated to this area.

That night, there were 20 casualty brought in by chopper in a single hour, not all of them can be save, the lucky on was pushed to the OR and prep for Surgery, the unlucky one were set aside and given morphine so that they don't feel much pain when they go.

Today, the section is manned by 2 Medic, my dad and an army Spec 4, 2 medic in charge of the dispatch. In times like this, doctors and nurses are all busy taking care of all other casualty that can be saved, and Medic and orderly in charge of the death room where the Medic job's basically keep pumping morphine until those expectant dies and orderlies' job is to gather the expectant belonging and push them to GRU.

In most case, those who are expected to die are too far gone, they mostly remain in a comatose states when they expires. Some are still conscious and yelling and screaming like crazy. In that case, you will need to inject some kind of sedative as well as morphine (Morphine to numb the pain and sedative to calm the person down) or in some case, just outright overdose morphine.

But on that day, one soldier stand out quite particularly as my father recall. He was hit by a concussion wave of an airburst artillery shell, and the concussion severed his spinal cord, which just snap into two, couple with internal bleeding, There are nothing much anyone can do, especially when the hospital are under siege of casualty like this.

5 Seconds, that is the time a doctor came saw him and look at his injury, 5 seconds is the time when the triage physician needed to write him off, cast him off like a thing, like when you are doing spring cleaning in your garage, the time it takes to decide whether or not you keep or throw something away.

So, a nurse came and hook him up with IV and Plasma, and then get his first shot or morphine and push him over to my dad, he hook up the IV Drips and basically just wait.

But then he talk to my dad, surprisingly lucid, tho not quite aware of what's happening around him, but he started talking.

But how do you actually break the news to someone and tell him he is dying, better yet, dead, but he just don't know about it? That's the question hover inside my dad's mine for quite some time, and eventually he come up with the solution, that is, well, simply not tell him about that.

So my dad did the round and took care the other 10, and pretty much after the IV and Morphine were injected, they are pretty much on autopilot, not much to do anyway beside checking them every 15 minutes to see, well, are they dead yet. So there are not much to do beside keep talking to one of the living dead that's awake.

"You are in a combat hospital in Pleiku, can you remember what happened?" My dad said
While he did know why and how he got here, but he obviously don't know anything else, including he is indeed dying. But this kind of quick to catch on when you are on a peaceful corner of an otherwise busy hospital.

"It didn't look good ain't it?" He said

Well, kind of hard to answer that question, but my dad did tell him the truth.

"Strange, I didn't feel like dying" he added after my dad told him there are nothing they can do. Once he bled out internally, he will be dead.

For the next hours, they talked about a lot of other stuff, baseball, cars, religion, things to do when they got back, afterlife and so on.

"Is there someone at one you can write to, I can write a letter for you?" My dad said he just ask him that, it just randomly felt out of his mouth.

"I don't" He simply said "I got nobody at home"

"Not even a girl? High school sweetheart?" My dad ask

"No" he said

Then as most of the other have died, my dad is now focusing on this person, if we can still call him that. And he just went to sit beside him. And he said

"You can still write to yourselves"

Well, it may seems like a stupid idea, but it would be the right thing to do. I guess it is sort of a confession or some kind of bucket list thing you will only understand when yourselves is dying. For me, I don't know. But My dad did just sit by him and wrote a letter for him to himself, he did not tell me anything about this letter, only a notion that the same letter is with him when he died, and with him all the way to the grave.

But the time has come, it's been almost two hours, all other have moved on, he remains, and he still talking and well, there are no other way to say this, but they need that bed for the next batch of expectant. So, he was given a choice to end it there by overdosing morphine.

In his dead bed, the doctor break the news and tell him what a combat cocktail is, after reaffirming him that there are nothing short of a full fledge hospital can do to save him, and moving him further itself will kill him and even if it does not and he moved to a fully equipped hospital, he would be a quadriplegic even if he survive, he accepted the offer to off himself.

Before then, the doctor went to the supply room and get the cocktail, and my dad ask him what he want to do before he went down the road. He asked for a cigarette and smoke, knowingly by the end of this cigarette, he would be on the other side of this world. So my dad break open a pack and give him one and light it for him, put it in his mouth. They both wait for the doctor to return with the combat cocktail.

And then, his last word is, "Thanks" and the orderly push him to the GRU

There are probably about a thousand dead my dad seen over the period of 1 year of war in Vietnam, probably he did about hundred of dying wishes, he don't remember any of them, well, he did remember bits and pieces of each of them, how they died, or what's their hair colour looks like, but not the entire story. This one, my dad said is different, because if he forgot about any detail, then nobody will even know this person actually exist. Beside a name and gravestone number low lying in Arlington. He have to make sure this person live on, and he will never forget about this person.
 
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Thanks for sharing this, really appreciate true war story.
 
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For some reason I feel bad for a Foriegn soldier who died decades ago in another country ... The soldier who had nobody looking for his return .. To think or pray for him ... To wait for his return ... Man... I feed sad... Couple of days back I was read a few letters of Muslim troops (from Pak) fighting on the French front in world war... Many of those letter bore similiar pains o not being able to go back home even in a casket ... Those soldiers like the one your father looked after had nobody on their death beds expect for eachother... But this particular soldier I for some reason feel ... I don't know I feel very sad ... May God bless you soldier .. Hope you found peace ... !!



Also I've noticed that most soldiers just don't talk about war .. My father,my cousins,uncles etc almost everybody has seen war .. From 47 till today in FATA .. Yet they never like to talk about it... Anyways ... Pay my regards to your father ... And thanks for this piece!


TC.
 
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@jhungary
First of all,please pay regards to your father from us for sharing this amazing story.Indeed warfare is one ''nasty'' phase,with dead ends for soldiers at both sides.Individuals[regardless of any profession] spend their time hoping to see new dawn-However,Allah has different plans for them.It is better to repent before final time comes. Good luck:)
Regards
 
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For some reason I feel bad for a Foriegn soldier who died decades ago in another country ... The soldier who had nobody looking for his return .. To think or pray for him ... To wait for his return ... Man... I feed sad... Couple of days back I was read a few letters of Muslim troops (from Pak) fighting on the French front in world war... Many of those letter bore similiar pains o not being able to go back home even in a casket ... Those soldiers like the one your father looked after had nobody on their death beds expect for eachother... But this particular soldier I for some reason feel ... I don't know I feel very sad ... May God bless you soldier .. Hope you found peace ... !!



Also I've noticed that most soldiers just don't talk about war .. My father,my cousins,uncles etc almost everybody has seen war .. From 47 till today in FATA .. Yet they never like to talk about it... Anyways ... Pay my regards to your father ... And thanks for this piece!


TC.

over the years, people have said to me "Gary, you are glorifying war"

Let me get this out straight, I HATE WAR. I been to two of them, and I hate every single minute in it, sure, there are good times during war, but people, especially some particular group in this forum, have think war is something they want to or have to brag at. Not knowing there are not a single second you are not miserable in war.

But if you ask me will I sign up for another tour if I am allowed? You bet I will, not because of anything, I simply do this for people I fought with, and most people don't know about that.

Soldier comes and gone, and people sometime, most of the time, taking soldiers for granted, but for those who seen war, those who experienced war, those who know the hardship of war will forever share a bond

Let me quote some Henry V here

"But we in it shall be remembered- We few, we happy few, we band of brothers;"

Thanks for sharing this, really appreciate true war story.

thank you, I have a lot more story I yet to tell, stay tuned

@jhungary
First of all,please pay regards to your father from us for sharing this amazing story.Indeed warfare is one ''nasty'' phase,with dead ends for soldiers at both sides.Individuals[regardless of any profession] spend their time hoping to see new dawn-However,Allah has different plans for them.It is better to repent before final time comes. Good luck:)
Regards

lol, there are always a reason for war, but soldier fought in it is not for the same reason.

and indeed, god have a plan for all of us, pray that they can find eternal peace
 
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@jhungary Thanks for tagging again mate. I appreciate it. Though I told you that I had left foruming. The family military tradition is a feeling that always made me proud, so is yours. For the discussion above I think no technical talk is needed, nor an emotional one; simply war is drug. You can find a couple dump as.ses in any country that talk about everything about war as if they're gods playing chess. But I have never seen (former)servicemen talking.

The "happy few" says it all especially the few..and I think its the only reason that reckless smile shows up on our faces, you get what I mean.

P.S: didn't receive an email back you okay bro :)
 
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@jhungary Thanks for tagging again mate. I appreciate it. Though I told you that I had left foruming. The family military tradition is a feeling that always made me proud, so is yours. For the discussion above I think no technical talk is needed, nor an emotional one; simply war is drug. You can find a couple dump as.ses in any country that talk about everything about war as if they're gods playing chess. But I have never seen (former)servicemen talking.

The "happy few" says it all especially the few..and I think its the only reason that reckless smile shows up on our faces, you get what I mean.

P.S: didn't receive an email back you okay bro :)

lol, welcome back, hope you stay for the technical side of this forum, I too was working on something else at this moment and I no longer have time to go 2 pages with idiots here in this forum. Well, if you can overlook those "genius" then this webpage is still a good place to be.

And man, I just suffered a nasty bout of pneumonia and only just started to recovering, so yeah, I have been lacking on my e-mail communique for a while now, but yeah, otherwise, all is good... :)
 
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lol, welcome back, hope you stay for the technical side of this forum, I too was working on something else at this moment and I no longer have time to go 2 pages with idiots here in this forum. Well, if you can overlook those "genius" then this webpage is still a good place to be.

And man, I just suffered a nasty bout of pneumonia and only just started to recovering, so yeah, I have been lacking on my e-mail communique for a while now, but yeah, otherwise, all is good... :)

Ohh I am sorry for that. How do you feel know

You know same sh.it different day. As you said only for technical reasons.
 
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Thanks for tagging me here.
This thread reminds me of your old thread Donut Dollies.....
I was sure by the end of the story this soldier would fight back death like a true hero and get back home. But alas....happy endings happen only in movies.
I dont think America achieved anything out of the Vietnam war, other than loosing precious lives, time and money. Containment of China, which was the main aim of Vietnam war, has not been achieved yet.

I just suffered a nasty bout of pneumonia
How are you feeling now?
 
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Ohh I am sorry for that. How do you feel know

You know same sh.it different day. As you said only for technical reasons.

Feeling old.....

I survive a war in Iraq, I survive a war in Afghanistan, I survive 7 jumps from Jump School, I survive the ranger school, and I caught Pneumonia for 2 rainy night in Australia, I must be getting old...

And yeah, from time to time I also just wanted to answer technical question too. But meh, I am seriously behind on my work here and my actual job, so I don't quite have time to do crazy stuff.

Thanks for tagging me here.
This thread reminds me of your old thread Donut Dollies.....
I was sure by the end of the story this soldier would fight back death like a true hero and get back home. But alas....happy endings happen only in movies.
I dont think America achieved anything out of the Vietnam war, other than loosing precious lives, time and money. Containment of China, which was the main aim of Vietnam war, has not been achieved yet.


How are you feeling now?

Well,, good ending only appear in movie, when you are fighting war long enough, all you will see is bad stuff, but then again, I can also say sometime the most amazing thing coming from some terrible night too. So, I guess you win some you lose some.

And the aim for Vietnam war is to contain Communism, not China, US uses Vietnam war to normalise relation with the Chinese. But yes, in hind sight, US achieve not much during Vietnam war, but for a soldier, we don't talk about all these, when you are just a guy in the field, you need to put your personal feeling aside.

You don't have to like it, you just need to show up and back up your buddy, that's what soldier do, we leave all the politic for the politician to sort them out.

And yeah, I am feeling much better now, but I can't even walk just 20 days ago, lol and I am already working on war story 4 and that's my personal experience and I bet you will like what I am gonna tell in my fourth story
 
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I am already working on war story 4 and that's my personal experience and I bet you will like what I am gonna tell in my fourth story
I have always liked reading personal accounts, and not what gets printed in newspapers.
Long back I had read the diary of a Pakistani army officer, recovered during Kargil war from his bunker.
Frankly, that diary changed my perception of how a soldier views his enemy
I still remember a diary entry "shaved after 4 months. Back to civilisation!!"
:)
That officer is still alive on the other side of border, I wish him well.

PS:
My dad was in the army too but then again he never went into details about his profession....as expected.
 
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I have always liked reading personal accounts, and not what gets printed in newspapers.
Long back I had read a diary of a Pakistani army officer, recovered during Kargil war from his bunker.
Frankly, that diary changed my view of how a soldier views his enemy
I still remember a diary entry "shaved after 4 months. Back to civilisation!!"
:)
That officer is still alive on the other side of border, I wish him well.

PS:
My dad was in the army too but then again he never went into details about his profession....as expected.

Well, I can imagine how bunker life would be, one of my grand father's brother was landed in Normandy with the 28th and he fought all the way from France to Germany, he used to live in a bunker or foxhole he dug on the outskirt of Germany for months on in, sleeping in it, eating in it and crapping in it...

well, my next story is about a girl I have fought with in Iraq, how she adopt to the warzone and how trial by fire is meant to her, that's why I said you are gonna like it
 
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I have always liked reading personal accounts, and not what gets printed in newspapers.
Long back I had read a diary of a Pakistani army officer, recovered during Kargil war from his bunker.
Frankly, that diary changed my view of how a soldier views his enemy
I still remember a diary entry "shaved after 4 months. Back to civilisation!!"
:)
That officer is still alive on the other side of border, I wish him well.

PS:
My dad was in the army too but then again he never went into details about his profession....as expected.

I can't imagine what soldiers really go through, war is devastating for both sides but to live with the memory of it is much worse :)
 
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Feeling old.....

I survive a war in Iraq, I survive a war in Afghanistan, I survive 7 jumps from Jump School, I survive the ranger school, and I caught Pneumonia for 2 rainy night in Australia, I must be getting old...

And yeah, from time to time I also just wanted to answer technical question too. But meh, I am seriously behind on my work here and my actual job, so I don't quite have time to do crazy stuff.



Well,, good ending only appear in movie, when you are fighting war long enough, all you will see is bad stuff, but then again, I can also say sometime the most amazing thing coming from some terrible night too. So, I guess you win some you lose some.

And the aim for Vietnam war is to contain Communism, not China, US uses Vietnam war to normalise relation with the Chinese. But yes, in hind sight, US achieve not much during Vietnam war, but for a soldier, we don't talk about all these, when you are just a guy in the field, you need to put your personal feeling aside.

You don't have to like it, you just need to show up and back up your buddy, that's what soldier do, we leave all the politic for the politician to sort them out.

And yeah, I am feeling much better now, but I can't even walk just 20 days ago, lol and I am already working on war story 4 and that's my personal experience and I bet you will like what I am gonna tell in my fourth story


Oo I thought airborne was included in Ranger course.

You're grown old since the day you start remembering. Feeling old, being old is good but don't be antique though, lol. I am glad you're okay. I remember, I have a degree on sailing, done many VBSS demos, but one day we were on our way to the ROTC from Heybeliada island on a landing craft. I got sea sick and have threwn out. It sucked at that moment, it sucks even worse when you realize you did it. Lol. Anyways for the next article, I'd like to see it technically detailed as much as possible, of course within your OPSEC conjuncture. How did you get well? A friend of mine had the same and the guy was like born out of hell. He was at bed for like 5 weeks.

I can't imagine what soldiers really go through, war is devastating for both sides but to live with the memory of it is much worse :)

Yeahh
I was a war story buster until I joined the navy. My granny was an airborne officer during Cyprus invasion, never told the the moment they put their boots on the ground. Same with dad, he did his national service in Northern Iraq at Gendarmerie commando, couldn't dare to tell memories. Its like they live inside us in a box locked up. Better not tell it like a story. In fact, its far better when you don't talk don't tell anything regardless the person you talk with. It just makes me feel better, you suffer the same pain when you talk. But we're not here for emotions do we :)
 
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