Want to sue China on the virus? Question: How many cases were in your country when Wuhan was shut?

[khansaheeb]

That's a load of BS. Flu season in the US always start around mid-late fall and prolongs till winter. The pattern is pretty much the same every year and everyone's advised to take flu shots. Employers and all major hospital systems in the Bay Area like Kaiser, Sutter and Stanford Health offer free flu shots which is a norm across the US. I see you're having UK flags and might be unaware of flu in the US

I literally live in the Bay Area and never heard anyone having Covid symptoms here in late 2019 though I came across several people with flu but that happens every year.

Not BS at all. I am only stating what I observed, I am a resident of San Jose and I too live in the Bay area. I also have a role where I interact with many people in north and south Bay, even as far south as Monterey and up North to Chico. All I am saying, as per my observation, is that there were people sick with Pneumonia symptoms as far back as November / December 2019. pneumonia symptoms may have been due something else or it could have been COVID-19, which I would say most likely. Because there were no test kits for COVID-19 docs wouldn't have known and just put it down to Flu or Pneumonia. It's puzzling how you can be so confident in your denial that COVID didn't exist in the US at that time when there had been sick people at that time in Eastern USA.

Any way , the key question to ask is why was a US Military general fired for the Fort Detrick incident? It couldn't have been just a minor lapse or technical issue, it must have been something substantial to get rid of such a senior person and then close the lab for 3 months.

 

[Zapper]

Not BS at all. I am only stating what I observed, I am a resident of San Jose and I too live in the Bay area. I also have a role where I interact with many people in north and south Bay, even as far south as Monterey and up North to Chico. All I am saying, as per my observation, is that there were people sick with Pneumonia symptoms as far back as November / December 2019. pneumonia symptoms may have been due something else or it could have been COVID-19, which I would say most likely. Because there were no test kits for COVID-19 docs wouldn't have known and just put it down to Flu or Pneumonia. It's puzzling how you can be so confident in your denial that COVID didn't exist in the US at that time when there had been sick people at that time in Eastern USA.

Any way , the key question to ask is why was a US Military general fired for the Fort Detrick incident? It couldn't have been just a minor lapse or technical issue, it must have been something substantial to get rid of such a senior person and then close the lab for 3 months.

First up, I'm not denying Covid didn't exist in the US late 2019 but only pointing out that your argument is baseless and I'd definitely agree if you come up with credible sources to back your claims. I previously lived in the midwest and now in the Bay Area and all this while, I came across people with flu and pneumonia symptoms all along during winters. Also, covid at times is asymptomatic where you don't even show a single symptom - so no one ever knows if one has been affected or not.

Secondly, several sources claimed covid started in the wet markets of Wuhan while China has continuously denied it since that's what any country would do. They even started a propaganda war stating covid originated in the US. We've seen several infectious diseases originating in China and there is a high possibility in this regard as well.

Following link gives you a summary of how covid cases in the Bay Area progressed with the first few cases are of those who traveled abroad
https://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/coronavirus/list-of-coronavirus-cases-in-the-bay-area/2248581/

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16940861

https://www.realclearscience.com/bl..._outbreaks_always_seem_to_start_in_china.html

 

[fisher1]

spanish flue originated from french military barracks ,also many diseases like hiv ,hepatitis which originated in west can be prevented if people not do certain type of activities like extramarital relationship and not drink wine and took other drugs so it is not proper logic to accuse or take action against any country or group for spreading pandemic and there is no evidence of this in Islamic history when pandemic occurred in times of Holy Prophet(P.B.U.H).

Heh. You must know something the historians don't. Nobody knows where Spanish flu originated.

Stop defending the Chinese. This isn't the first time their filthy habits created a pandemic. SARS was same story. Bats to humans.

The world doesn't eat bats. Bats have countless other viruses equally capable of creating pandemics given the right mutation.

African eat bats and bushmeat because of poverty. Chinese do because of their messed up superstitions of bats having aphrodisiac properties and other bullcrap like that. Just like they hunt the poor bears for their bile and will cause extinction. They're these superstitious because they mock God and are far away from sanity and have taken every person as their god. Someone tells them dogs balls will give you eternal life and they will eat it because they don't know any better. Truly the people of times of Jahiliya.

Since you brought up Prophet Muhammad (saww), isn't advising to good and forbidding from evil a duty of every Muslim? How pathetic do you look defending the Chinese because your state policy is to please them so you do that over doing the right thing?

 

[Yaseen1]

i am also against their eating habits and brutality against animals but west is taking action against them not for pandemic but for their own self interest and to create new world order by putting world economy in single their hands which will be more destructive to world particularly Muslim countries as evident from what they did in past 20 years against middle east and afghanistan

Heh. You must know something the historians don't. Nobody knows where Spanish flu originated.

Stop defending the Chinese. This isn't the first time their filthy habits created a pandemic. SARS was same story. Bats to humans.

The world doesn't eat bats. Bats have countless other viruses equally capable of creating pandemics given the right mutation.

African eat bats and bushmeat because of poverty. Chinese do because of their messed up superstitions of bats having aphrodisiac properties and other bullcrap like that. Just like they hunt the poor bears for their bile and will cause extinction. They're these superstitious because they mock God and are far away from sanity and have taken every person as their god. Someone tells them dogs balls will give you eternal life and they will eat it because they don't know any better. Truly the people of times of Jahiliya.

Since you brought up Prophet Muhammad (saww), isn't advising to good and forbidding from evil a duty of every Muslim? How pathetic do you look defending the Chinese because your state policy is to please them so you do that over doing the right thing?

 

[fisher1]

i am also against their eating habits and brutality against animals but west is taking action against them not for pandemic but for their own self interest and to create new world order by putting world economy in single their hands which will be more destructive to world particularly Muslim countries as evident from what they did in past 20 years against middle east and afghanistan

We don't know their intention but isn't the right thing to do is to stop them from eating bats. If we can stop one bad thing in the world completely even if our enemy (west) does it for self-interest, we should be cheering for it.

 

[Yaseen1]

western nations have done more damage to Islam as compared to china so they cannot be trusted anymore

We don't know their intention but isn't the right thing to do is to stop them from eating bats. If we can stop one bad thing in the world completely even if our enemy (west) does it for self-interest, we should be cheering for it.

 

[fisher1]

western nations have done more damage to Islam as compared to china so they cannot be trusted anymore

That's not entirely true. West has done damage to Muslim lands. Islam has prospered under West.

If China were in power, the world would be completely different. They would not only raze Muslim lands, they would force us to atheism and make us worship Xi Jinping or put us in camps.

How much is Islam spreading in China? How many Muslims can preach there? How many Chinese Muslim scholars do you know with world fame? I can count several Western Islamic scholars completely free to do whatever. How many western governments you know that call Islam a mental illness and contagion, a virus? How many want to make Islam a sin and edit Holy Quran?

China hates religion especially Islam because it's a threat to slavery to Xi Jinping. Naive Muslims like you like to bash West and sing praises of China all day but be careful what you wish for.

Ignoring the suffering of Muslims in China and believing you would be safe because you're not them is foolishness. That's how Indian Muslims were when overnight, they suffered the same as Kashmiris. Pray that this doesn't happen to us Pakistanis overnight and we face the same fate as Uighurs. Even the Uighers were like us before Xi Jinping.

We have seen what has West done. And we have seen what China has done in their own country. And i will take the western version of oppression any day over Chinese. Better to be martyred as a Muslim than live as an atheist. You as a Muslim should know what sort of gift Emaan is that God has blessed us with.

 

[Yaseen1]

chinese are free to convert to Muslims and many chinese in Pakistan embrace Islam,west has also promoted editing of Holy Quran as qadyani group who did blasphemy and changed Islamic teachings was made by them when british came to subcontinent and they mirza ghulam qadyani used to live under protection of british and was funded by them to promote his wrong and false teachings,similarly they defamed Islam and concept of Jihad post 911 and used media compaigns for this at large scale.What china does is only limited to their own country but what west is doing is affecting whole world Muslims and all Islamic countries worstly

That's not entirely true. West has done damage to Muslim lands. Islam has prospered under West.

If China were in power, the world would be completely different. They would not only raze Muslim lands, they would force us to atheism and make us worship Xi Jinping or put us in camps.

How much is Islam spreading in China? How many Muslims can preach there? How many Chinese Muslim scholars do you know with world fame? I can count several Western Islamic scholars completely free to do whatever. How many western governments you know that call Islam a mental illness and contagion, a virus? How many want to make Islam a sin and edit Holy Quran?

China hates religion especially Islam because it's a threat to slavery to Xi Jinping. Naive Muslims like you like to bash West and sing praises of China all day but be careful what you wish for.

Ignoring the suffering of Muslims in China and believing you would be safe because you're not them is foolishness. That's how Indian Muslims were when overnight, they suffered the same as Kashmiris. Pray that this doesn't happen to us Pakistanis overnight and we face the same fate as Uighurs. Even the Uighers were like us before Xi Jinping.

We have seen what has West done. And we have seen what China has done in their own country. And i will take the western version of oppression any day over Chinese. Better to be martyred as a Muslim than live as an atheist. You as a Muslim should know what sort of gift Emaan is that God has blessed us with.

 

[flowerfan2020]

China is going to suffer severe consequences ...no amount of excuses will save you..

unfortunately India is going to suffer the one of the most consequences now.

 

[khansaheeb]

First up, I'm not denying Covid didn't exist in the US late 2019 but only pointing out that your argument is baseless and I'd definitely agree if you come up with credible sources to back your claims. I previously lived in the midwest and now in the Bay Area and all this while, I came across people with flu and pneumonia symptoms all along during winters. Also, covid at times is asymptomatic where you don't even show a single symptom - so no one ever knows if one has been affected or not.

Secondly, several sources claimed covid started in the wet markets of Wuhan while China has continuously denied it since that's what any country would do. They even started a propaganda war stating covid originated in the US. We've seen several infectious diseases originating in China and there is a high possibility in this regard as well.

Following link gives you a summary of how covid cases in the Bay Area progressed with the first few cases are of those who traveled abroad
https://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/coronavirus/list-of-coronavirus-cases-in-the-bay-area/2248581/

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16940861

https://www.realclearscience.com/bl..._outbreaks_always_seem_to_start_in_china.html

Firstly you haven't responded to my main points in my reply to you. You seem to have that typical Indian characteristic of having selective reading or perhaps you are dyslexic? Also if there were hardly any flu test kits in the US how can you say that COIVD-19 wasn't widespread before August 2019? Whenever a person is sick with flu they normally sent home to rest and recover and if they died it is put down to natural causes. Over the last 3 years it was only last year around October 2019 that I noticed pneumonia symptoms in some people I met and not before. There is no evidence that COVID-19 started in Wuhan but only that the first case in Wuhan was detected there. The most likely source of this strain is a lab, which lab can be ascertained by smart detective work but needs international cooperation. If China was attacked then it must be a hostile nation with a limited list of countries.

 

[Menthol]

Shut up, everyone!

Just give me my compensation money now!

From coronavirus, wars, economic recession, media propaganda, internet slowdown, etc.


Anyone can add more to the list above.

It's all for us by the way.

 

[8888888888888]

Trump screwed up so he is making excuses.

 

[Engima Chaudhry]

A good point to start compensation would be
1. 20 trillion $ compensation for the loot and pillage of the indian sub continent by uk.
2. 20 trillion$ Compensation to red Indians and Australian aboriginals and the vacation of their lands.
3. 10 trillion U.S. $ AS Compensation for the colonisation of African slave trade .
4. 1 TRILLION$ compensation for the opium wars against China.
5. 5 trillion $ for crimes against humanity like dropping of atomic bomb etc.
Feel free to add to the list.
Would love to watch this going on in international criminal court.

 

[Nein]

When Australia did travel bans you Chinese cried.

By saying its racist and cried to the WHO.

 

[krash]

Only the Chinese eat disgusting filthy bats.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bat_as_food