Vietnamese President vows to enhance friendly ties with China

[Brotherhood]

Vietnamese President vows to enhance friendly ties with China - People's Daily Online September 13, 2010

Vietnamese President Nguyen Minh Triet said in Hanoi on Sunday that Vietnamese people and Chinese people share a long and deep friendship and Vietnam is ready to enhance friendly ties with China.

Triet made the remarks when meeting with visiting Chairman of China's southwestern Guangxi Zhuang Autonomous Region Ma Biao, who is leading a 1,000-member delegation in Vietnam for trade and culture promotion.

At the meeting, Triet said Vietnam and China's Guangxi share a long borderline. Vietnam is China's gateway to markets of Association of Southeast Asian Nations (ASEAN).

Tiret said China's Guangxi is conducting many major projects in Vietnam and these cooperation projects are running smoothly. Vietnam would like to strengthen ties with China's Guangxi in various sectors, he said.

For his part, Ma said Guangxi has close economic and trade links with Vietnam. The trade value between Guangxi and Vietnam accounts for nearly one fourth the total trade between China and Vietnam.

Ma said Guangxi is the host of the annual China-ASEAN Expo. Guangxi would like to be a bridge linking Chinese market and ASEAN market.

Ma said China and ASEAN have established the free trade area. Guangxi and Vietnam should make full use of the development momentum and push for the development of cross-border economic zone.

Ma said Guangxi would like to strengthen cooperation with Vietnam on education, culture, tourism, technology, health, as well as border management and border development.

Source:Xinhua

 

[challenger]

Vietnam, China's Guangxi hold trade fair
English.news.cn 2010-09-11 23:18:01

HANOI, Sept. 11 (Xinhua) -- A trade fair was held in Vietnam's capital city of Hanoi on Saturday with participation of companies from Vietnam and China's Guangxi Zhuang Autonomous Region.

At the fair, more than 100 companies from China's Guangxi brought here nearly 200 projects in various sectors including resources development, agriculture products processing, agricultural machinery production, sugar production and high technology.

Ma Biao, chairman of Guangxi Zhuang Autonomous Region said at the fair that Guangxi and Vietnam have seen strengthened trade and economic links in recent years.

Vietnam has been Guangxi's largest trade partner for eleven years, said Ma. Vietnam is also a major destination for Guangxi's outbound investment.

Ma said he is confident that cooperation between Guangxi and Vietnam will be further expanded and enriched in the coming time.

A total of 64 cooperation agreements were inked at the fair, with the estimated value of 1.96 billion U.S. dollars.

The trade fair is part of the activities held during Ma's six- day visit in Vietnam. Ma is leading a 1,000-member delegation here for trade and culture promotion.

Vietnam, China's Guangxi hold trade fair

 

[nomi007]

Indians defeated by china again,because Vietnam is boosting relation with china

 

[Mirza Jatt]

Indians defeated by china again,because Vietnam is boosting relation with china

by your logic..pakistan is defeated by India as India and China now share a very strong trade relations, which China and vietnam has just started.

 

[indian_reality]

Indians defeated by china again,because Vietnam is boosting relation with china

WOW.....what an expert international observer. Would you be the UN General Secretary please?

 

[muse]

Why Indian friends want to protest the obvious - Indian would have like to see Vietnam as a adversary of China, certainly US wants to see Vietnam in that light.

 

[siegecrossbow]

Vietnam, China's Guangxi hold trade fair
English.news.cn 2010-09-11 23:18:01

HANOI, Sept. 11 (Xinhua) -- A trade fair was held in Vietnam's capital city of Hanoi on Saturday with participation of companies from Vietnam and China's Guangxi Zhuang Autonomous Region.

At the fair, more than 100 companies from China's Guangxi brought here nearly 200 projects in various sectors including resources development, agriculture products processing, agricultural machinery production, sugar production and high technology.

Ma Biao, chairman of Guangxi Zhuang Autonomous Region said at the fair that Guangxi and Vietnam have seen strengthened trade and economic links in recent years.

Vietnam has been Guangxi's largest trade partner for eleven years, said Ma. Vietnam is also a major destination for Guangxi's outbound investment.

Ma said he is confident that cooperation between Guangxi and Vietnam will be further expanded and enriched in the coming time.

A total of 64 cooperation agreements were inked at the fair, with the estimated value of 1.96 billion U.S. dollars.

The trade fair is part of the activities held during Ma's six- day visit in Vietnam. Ma is leading a 1,000-member delegation here for trade and culture promotion.

Vietnam, China's Guangxi hold trade fair

A good move to defuse the already tense situation in the South China Sea.

 

[gpit]

Why Indian friends want to protest the obvious - Indian would have like to see Vietnam as a adversary of China, certainly US wants to see Vietnam in that light.

Another obvious is that not many want to be US pawns. It would be interesing to see how many want to be India's pawns by offending their neighbor China and containing China. Burma? Vietnam? Mongol? S. Korea?

Couldn't wait longer to see a farce unfold... and resulted...

 

[Martian2]

Reality check. Action speaks louder than words. Just exactly how important is ASEAN to the United States?

Bangkok Post : US no-show at Asean meeting

"US no-show at Asean meeting

Published: 29/08/2010 at 03:55 AM
Online news: Breakingnews

HANOI : Economic ties between the United States and Southeast Asia are "a high priority", an embassy spokesman said Saturday despite the absence of US officials from a key regional trade meeting.

Ministers from China, Japan, India and other leading trade partners of the 10-member Association of Southeast Asian Nations (Asean) attended the annual talks which ended Friday in the central Vietnamese city of Danang, but US officials were absent.

Analysts blamed domestic US political factors for the no-show.

"US government economic and trade officials maintain constant and active dialogue with their Asean counterparts," the embassy spokesman said.

"And we consider the US-Asean economic relationship to be a high priority."

The spokesman, who declined to be named, added that representatives of the US-Asean Business Council -- which includes executives from major corporations - did attend the Danang meetings.

"The American business community is a strong partner for Asean," the council said in a statement. It has participated for more than a decade in the annual Asean economic talks.

On a visit in June to Vietnam, deputy US trade representative Demetrios Marantis said the US is the biggest foreign investor in the country, which currently chairs Asean.

Vietnam and two other Asean members, Brunei and Singapore, are part of talks with the US and others aimed at forging the Trans-Pacific Partnership trade deal.

Asean Secretary General Surin Pitsuwan said in Danang that "we are disappointed" the US could not attend the annual economic discussions but he described Washington's commitment to the region as "quite strong".

Surin said there were "many levels of engagement", and economic ministers from the bloc had visited the US in March.

The US is Southeast Asia's fourth-largest trading partner, with two-way commerce worth more than $149 billion last year, according to Asean data. (AFP)"

 

[Martian2]

Is it a good idea to be caught between the world's two continent-sized countries with the largest military budgets and multi-trillion-dollar economies? When giants fight, do you want to be in the middle? This game is not cost-free. The giant that is closest to you will come sooner or later and demand payment.

American advances in Asia: No real gains for ASEAN | East Asia Forum

"American advances in Asia: No real gains for ASEAN
September 8th, 2010

Author: Fenna Egberink, Clingendael Institute

The United States’ recent Asian diplomacy has been most interesting. The US has drawn ASEAN countries into the guarded enmity between the US and China. Is this to Southeast Asia’s benefit?

Earlier this year China took a noticeably more proactive stance vis-à-vis its regional partners. After first asserting the South China Sea to be a ‘core interest’ during bilateral discussions with the US, a term generally reserved for its claims to Tibet, Taiwan and Xinjiang, China defied US diplomatic efforts by using its veto-powers in the UN Security Council to block actions against North Korea in the aftermath of the Cheonan incident.

The ensuing tension in the region provided the momentum for the US to finally make headway on the Asian engagement it announced when Obama took office. Mere weeks after the Security Council meeting the US stepped up, accepting ASEAN’s invitation for it to join the East Asia Summit and announcing its intention to play a role in the South China Sea. In doing so, the US rebuffed China’s claim and argued that it is in the US’ national interest to protect its and others’ access to, and security in, international waters. In forming this position, the US has in one strike placed itself in direct opposition to China, which has always opposed the intervention or mediation of non-parties.

Unsurprisingly, Southeast Asia often serves as a proxy theatre for the US and China to fight out their battles over North-East Asia. With the ASEAN-China Free Trade Area firmly in place and China ensconsed within the Asian integration process through (the exclusively Asian) ASEAN+3, the US needed to step up its game. Its recent moves show that this has taken place, but whether ASEAN stands to gain from this position is questionable.

In all fairness ASEAN has been vying for further US support in the region, and the US intending to join the East Asia Summit is as much as it could have hoped for. American Southeast Asian advances are well-timed as well, with Obama’s long-postponed visit to Indonesia weighing down on the region’s traditionally strong ties with its security guarantor. Although American support for ASEAN’s South China Sea claimants is welcomed by some, it has also provoked a clash of Southeast Asian interests. Vietnam has embraced a potential American role in the dispute, while the Philippines has made clear that, as far as it is concerned, American involvement is not only unnecessary, but also unwanted.

These internal divisions point out an important draw-back of America’s recent moves. Increased engagement is much welcomed, but not if it feels like an anti-China rather than a pro-ASEAN policy. With ASEAN already struggling in the face of China’s dominance, it does not need another great power using it as a pawn in a broader strategic game. And any liaison with the US can justifiably be interpreted by China as an effort to balance China’s influence in the region, which places ASEAN’s economic and security interests at risk.

Although ASEAN countries could be tempted to go along with America’s new bout of Asian engagement in order to make short-term diplomatic and political gains, it would be unwise to abandon precaution when becoming mixed up in a rivalry game between the region’s two super powers – a lesson which the region’s history should have taught the countries several times over. In light of the increased tensions in the region and the divided response to a potential American role in the South China Sea, ASEAN should prioritise Southeast Asian unity and sovereignty, and as such reject playing any role in Sino-American competition and thus forego aligning itself with America in regard to the South China Sea disputes.

Fenna Egberink is a research fellow for Clingendael Asia Studies at the Netherlands Institute of International Relations Clingendael."

 

[CardSharp]

At the meeting, Triet said Vietnam and China's Guangxi share a long borderline. Vietnam is China's gateway to markets of Association of Southeast Asian Nations (ASEAN).

An unfortunate phrasing by Xinhua. How does Vietnam in anyway speak for other ASEAN nations in bi-lateral trade issues?

 

[Martian2]

Did you just feel another Geopolitical earth tremor? I think I did

Do take the time to read the following two articles from today's ATOL

Asia Times Online :: Korea News and Korean Business and Economy, Pyongyang News

Asia Times Online :: China News, China Business News, Taiwan and Hong Kong News and Business.

The stories concern events regarding relations with North Korea and Myanmar. Interestingly the story they tell is similar, talking about how both countries seem to be moving very close to China and looking for help to instigate Chinese style economic reforms and development.

If this is so, this is a remarkable transformation and will mark the forging of a new economic community that also includes countries such as Laos and Cambodia. This is not just an increase of bilateral ties or closer strategic/defence relations, this is shift in fundamental thinking and the creation of a real sinosphere, where the China model is not only put into operation but welded directly to the Chinese Infrastructure.

This then could be the first phase of the much vaunted East Asian Economic Union and if so it would be ironic that China's first steps down this road will have been the rehabilitation of the two regional bad boys. In fact its far more than Ironic, it is seminal as it shows that the China model of engagement can get results, while the western model of proscription has achieved nothing.

What a message this would enable to China to send to the rest of the region, "If we can do this for basket cases like DPRK and Myanmar, just think what we can do for you". Add to this the consequences of the very act of rehabilitation in its own right and I think you will appreciate the effect this will have on wary neighbours.

So, is the Earth moving for you now?

As you say, North Korea, Myanmar, Laos, and Cambodia are fortunate to be in China's geographical proximity. Economically speaking, when those neighboring countries are "welded directly to the Chinese infrastructure," they effectively become additional provinces of China. China has the financial resources, technology, manufacturing supply chain, and vast market to jump-start and grow the economies of those Asian countries.

In my view, the probability of success is high. China is already a $5 trillion U.S. dollar economy. According to IMF projections, in five years time, China's nominal economy will approach $10 trillion U.S. dollars. In essence, China has almost unlimited resources if it was determined to build the economies of those countries. Of course, those countries will have to wait in line until China is finished in building her western regions. Nevertheless, whether it requires 10 or 20 years, I believe the prognosis is excellent for the economic development of North Korea, Myanmar, Laos, and Cambodia.

I think the Earth is moving for everyone. There is a new world economic re-ordering under way and it is centered around the manufacturing giant China.

 

[no_name]

As you say, North Korea, Myanmar, Laos, and Cambodia are fortunate to be in China's geographical proximity. Economically speaking, when those neighboring countries are "welded directly to the Chinese infrastructure," they effectively become additional provinces of China.

Maybe closer to tributaries with potential for closely tailored ties that benefits both sides. Calling them as provinces may be a bit overboard.

 

[Martian2]

As you say, North Korea, Myanmar, Laos, and Cambodia are fortunate to be in China's geographical proximity. Economically speaking, when those neighboring countries are "welded directly to the Chinese infrastructure," they effectively become additional provinces of China. China has the financial resources, technology, manufacturing supply chain, and vast market to jump-start and grow the economies of those Asian countries.

Maybe closer to tributaries with potential for closely tailored ties that benefits both sides. Calling them as provinces may be a bit overboard.

I prefaced my statement with the words "economically speaking." However, I should have made it more clear that countries with geographical proximity to China are lucky. By plugging directly into the Chinese economy via a "welding of the physical infrastructure," these countries can become fully developed in a few short decades; just like the provinces of China are currently being developed one after another.