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Indonesia priorities is to cover the large islands we had with extensive logistic supply ships for sustainment and prolonged patrol duty on land and sea and more patrol boats. Vietnam on other hand need to revamp their Air Defense units with more AA systems
 
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Well i just delete my previous post. The thread have greatly derail thanks to certain womanly coward and outsider but well, i guess i shouldnt provoke people that have limited processing skills and prefer a skirt instead of a pant :)

Gepards with average ASW . Still require something more.

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Yes I am a coward, and very limited IQ? So what?
Still unable to grasp some facts of life from a coward. Lol.

I noticed one thing, where single party exist,,, they use word coward too much, even that is nonsense wrt argument.

So what I am coward? Maybe in Vietnam cowards not liable to speak, but in many parts of world,,, they do actually. That's the beauty, you see.

So, next time if you don't have counter argument, don't blame others,,, blame yourself.

And then if its about derail, military of each & every part of world is political, somewhere that is high, somewhere that is low.

Military is not just about equipments, its also about mentality & ideology in which military believe. Why you think coups happen?

But I know you unable to grasp such facts as it coming from coward & outsider. But those are realities. Sometimes it good to have reality check instead of living in cookoo land. Read the book Army & Nation by Steve Wilkinson. That may help you.

But for now,,, bye bye, c u next time.
 
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Gepards with average ASW . Still require something more.

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Yes, it certainly requires a decent air defense. With a Palma and 2 AK-630s, this ship is only good for patrols during peacetime or littoral operations under the mainland air defense umbrella. I'm glad is only $350 million per ship. Add another $50 million and can buy a S-400 battery which is a lot more useful I would say.
 
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Indonesia priorities is to cover the large islands we had with extensive logistic supply ships for sustainment and prolonged patrol duty on land and sea and more patrol boats. Vietnam on other hand need to revamp their Air Defense units with more AA systems
It is all about a question of possibilities. The likelihood of Chinese aerial assault on Indonesia islands and homeland is much lesser than on Vietnam. yes, stating the obvious, our security situation is as not as the same as of your country. You can concentrate on some few fields of defence, while we virtually have to cover everything.

Lucky Indonesia. Did I say it already?
 
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It is all about a question of possibilities. The likelihood of Chinese aerial assault on Indonesia islands and homeland is much lesser than on Vietnam. yes, stating the obvious, our security situation is as not as the same as of your country. You can concentrate on some few fields of defence, while we virtually have to cover everything.

Lucky Indonesia. Did I say it already?

and that's why i had stated it before, you need to revamp your army
 
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and that's why i had stated it before, you need to revamp your army
We are midst of largest military build-up since end of Vietnam war. What is seen in this thread is just a very few military capacities of our army. We have a long history of hiding our real fighting power before our opponents. When they realized, it mostly came to late for them, to escape our anger. So let them believe we are weak.

We launched a preemptive strike on the Chinese army during the Song, deep in chinese territory, completely annihilating their army before they completed building up the invasion force. So the Chinese should not make the mistake thinking we sit idle swallowing their aggression.
 
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Vietnam detains activists after South China Sea ruling

AFP•July 17, 2016

https://www.yahoo.com/news/vietnam-detains-activists-south-china-sea-ruling-051811155.html

Note: This news article is related to the South China Sea ruling, so it qualifies to be posted in this thread.
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Anti-China activists protest in the capital of Vietnam Hanoi, on July 17, 2016 (AFP Photo/Nhac Nguyen)

Scores of activists were detained in Vietnam's capital on Sunday as they gathered to protest against China after it rejected a recent international ruling that dismissed its claims to much of the South China Sea.

Anti-Chinese sentiment runs deep in communist Vietnam but the country's authoritarian rulers move swiftly to tamp down expressions of public anger, fearful that allowing such protests might embolden criticism of their rule.

Activists had used social media to call for protests in Hanoi on Sunday in the wake of this week's ruling by the Permanent Court of Arbitration (PCA) in The Hague which found there was no legal basis for Beijing's claims to vast swathes of the South China Sea.

The case was brought by the Philippines but the ruling has been a boon for other regional countries like Vietnam who also have competing claims to the strategic sea.

Authorities in the capital Hanoi were ready for protests on Sunday.

Plainclothes security forces were out in force, blanketing much of the city centre and keeping a close eye on any crowds that might be gathering, an AFP reporter on the scene said.

Throughout the morning around 30 activists were swiftly bundled onto waiting buses and cars by security forces after they gathered to hold a protest near the city's famous Hoan Kiem lake, a common spot for demonstrations.

Some chanted "Down with China invasion!" as they were led away to detention.

Later in the day a group of nine activists held a brief rally outside the Philippines embassy. One held aloft a banner that read: "Thank you Philippines. You have a brave government."

The group dispersed on motorbike before security forces arrived.

Activists posted pictures on social media of similar flashmob rallies in southern Ho Chi Minh City with protesters riding around the city on motorbikes holding banners criticising China.

Beijing lays claim to virtually all of the South China Sea, putting it at odds with regional neighbours the Philippines, Vietnam, Malaysia, Brunei and Taiwan, which also have partial claims.

China boycotted the PCA hearings, saying the court had no jurisdiction, and has reacted furiously, vowing to ignore the ruling and arguing it misinterprets international law.

Vietnam and China frequently trade diplomatic barbs over the disputed Paracel island chain and waters in the South China Sea.

China has encouraged patriotic citizens to visit the contested Paracels, which are known as Xisha in Chinese.

Such acts have deepened already simmering anti-Chinese sentiment in Vietnam while domestic critics accuse Hanoi of being too meek towards its giant northern neighbour.

At least three Chinese nationals were killed in 2014 when rioting broke out in Vietnam after Beijing sent an oil rig into contested waters.
 
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Carlosa, it is ok to post.

A few protesters tried to stage protest but blocked by authority. Many major western media report the event. including die deutsche welle, a German state news agency. That shows how thing becomes increasing tense. And how thing becomes rediculous.
 
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I suggest you stop here. If you want to troll go elsewhere!


Feel free and call the mod.

@Hu Songshan

That is not trolling. That is transferring logic into the kid's head. So he can realize what he has been doing. I've already told him to stop. Don't tell me, I know when to stop. You should tell him.

Vntsx is just a typical Northerner-hater and a race traitor, with deep inferiority complex. Who care even if he got 03 PhD degrees from some "Western university".

He talks as if a degree from some "Western university" make him know everything in this world and give him the right to judge other nations, especially East Asian nations, what is wrong and what is right. With him, anyone speaks impeccable English can be his teacher.

With his sickening mentality, no need to waste time with him.

How is my mentality sickening, when you don't understand what im talking about? Education matters, bud. Sitting in the forum and running your mouth isn't. There is a difference between an olympic player than an ordinary person. So don't compare your level of knowledge to mine. Not saying this in a arrogant way.
 
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Well i love when a certain womanly coward and mentally challenged pick his choice of words. Its feel just like he didnt do anything wrong and have never insulted anyone :v Even normal military posts like my SYPDER and HQ - 521 can intrigue his raging and the most funny part is he turn to "Vietnamese insult" to "transfer his logic" . LOL LOL LOL. Well everyone better keep away from him or he will drag you IQ level down to his and defeat you by sheer experiences. He will raging even if he hear your breath. I personally consider the guy to be a pre - puberty girl so everything is fine now . He will go to the "Democracy Olympic" one day so at least we better pretend he won several gold medal made of chocolate already. :omghaha: Or better whenever he is raging, let put a simple response like this : :nana:

Graduation ceremony in Russia with Vietnam Public Security Force

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Vietnam TV station drops Chinese drama over South China Sea dispute


July 18, 2016
HANOI (Reuters) - A provincial Vietnamese TV channel has dropped a Chinese drama series after several Chinese actors condemned a court's decision that denied Beijing's vast claims to the South China Sea.

China claims most of the energy-rich waters through which about $5 trillion in ship-borne trade passes every year. Brunei, Malaysia, the Philippines, Taiwan and Vietnam also have claims.

The Permanent Court of Arbitration in The Hague, deciding a case lodged by the Philippines, ruled last week that China's "nine-dash line" encircling its territory, almost all the South China Sea, was illegal and breached Manila's sovereign rights.

"Due to some objective reasons related to several Chinese actors criticizing the court's ruling on the nine-dash line and to show clear views of a mouthpiece under the Communist Party and the State, Binh Thuan TV announces the suspension of broadcasting of 'Shanghai Bund'," a station anchor said in a video posted by media.

"Shanghai Bund" is a Chinese television series remake of the 1980 Hong Kong television series "The Bund", starring Huang Xiaoming, who voiced support for Beijing's claims. Binh Thuan TV is a state-run station based in the southern province of the same name.

Beijing has called the court ruling a farce and several Chinese celebrities have spoken up against the court's decision.

Many Vietnamese people have shared the video clip and showed support for the channel.

About 20 Vietnamese were detained on Sunday while trying to hold a protest against China's rejection of the court decision.

Vietnam has welcomed the ruling, but not said whether it will pursue the same legal path as the Philippines.

(Reporting by My Pham; Editing by Nick Macfie)
 
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Carlosa, it is ok to post.

A few protesters tried to stage protest but blocked by authority. Many major western media report the event. including die deutsche welle, a German state news agency. That shows how thing becomes increasing tense. And how thing becomes rediculous.

According to comcom, the contract with India to upgrade the ASW systems of 2 Petya ships is only $30 million (for both ships). That's pretty cheap, a lot of equipment will go into those 2 ships. As I often say, buying from India is a lot cheaper than from Russia and they have a lot of good stuff.

As a point of comparison, the second batch of Gepards is exactly twice the cost of the first batch and the only difference is the ASW, that's $175 million per ship difference. To be fair, part of that is also inflation, but still......
 
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According to comcom, the contract with India to upgrade the ASW systems of 2 Petya ships is only $30 million (for both ships). That's pretty cheap, a lot of equipment will go into those 2 ships. As I often say, buying from India is a lot cheaper than from Russia and they have a lot of good stuff.

As a point of comparison, the second batch of Gepards is exactly twice the cost of the first batch and the only difference is the ASW, that's $175 million per ship difference. To be fair, part of that is also inflation, but still......
If $15 million per ship to get it modernized by the latest weaponry, yes, it is absolutely making sense. Having just a single provider makes one paying a higher price. Economy 1x1. I believe the only thing some people in the army are worried is quality. are India make weapons of high quality and absolutely reliable?

That is not trolling. That is transferring logic into the kid's head. So he can realize what he has been doing. I've already told him to stop. Don't tell me, I know when to stop. You should tell him.



How is my mentality sickening, when you don't understand what im talking about? Education matters, bud. Sitting in the forum and running your mouth isn't. There is a difference between an olympic player than an ordinary person. So don't compare your level of knowledge to mine. Not saying this in a arrogant way.
It is all about because you asked superman to stop posting Vietnam military news, I am just saying you you shouldn't. Not saying anything else. Everyone knows the problems we are facing. Corruption and incompetence are the two major issues. Nobody can deny that.

But this thread is about army news, not what political party is best.
 
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Not sure if this news is posted?

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Vietnam will build upgraded TT-400TP series ships
Mar 28, 2016


TT-400TP cannon ship

According to the Russian press, it is negotiating with Vietnam to support close range TT-400TP warships upgrade.

In an interview with the Russian press in February 2016, the director of the shipyard Mid-Nevsky Vladimir Seredoho said that, the factory is preparing to sign a contract with the Vietnam People’s Navy to the after-sales service terms of projects warships in the 2016 TT-400TP this.

“We’re done for six ships of TT-400TP project for the Navy in Vietnam. These ships have already been distributed in Vietnam Navy. Today we are preparing a contract after-sales service with Vietnam, when the warranty period expires in 2016, “said Seredoho.

According to Mr Vladimir Seredoho, parallel to the negotiations on after-sales services are continuing negotiations on building a series of warships TT-400TP upgrade.

“The shape of the ship will be like, Vietnam partners have not decided. Before the end of 2016, we will proceed with the signing of the contract,” he said Seredoho.

TT-400TP warships patrol boats variations or TT-400 is produced by Factory Z173 (Company Hong Ha).

The vessel has a length of 54 m, width 9.1 m, full load of 480 tons of water relaxation, maximum speed 32 knots / hour, maximum range of 2,500 nautical miles. The ship can operate continuously at sea for 30 days and nights, with combat capability in the 5 wave conditions.

But TT-400TP is domestic product of Vietnam, but the system of sensors, radar and weapons on board were Russian-made. So it’s no wonder to say that Russia join TT-400TP ship cannon.

TT-400TP firepower with gunboats 76,2mm caliber AK-176 (range 15 km), high-speed anti-aircraft artillery AK-630 (4 km range, rate of fire of 5,000 player / min), 2 Dalian 14 , 5mm and low-altitude air defense missile Igla.

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