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April 30, 1975

A beautiful city lying in the west coast of America and home of the largest exile Vietnamese group outside Vietnam: San José in California. And home of majority of die-hard republican Vietnamese, with many today remember of the fall of Saigon 42 years ago.

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It is really rare that the fate of a Vietnamese citizen overshadows a high level talk. Vietnamese government demands a clarification in the case of Doan Thi Huong, who is accused of killing Kim Jong-nam. She could face execution squad if found guilty. In talk with Malaysia PM Najib, Vietnam PM Nguyen "hopes" that facts would surface she was used and manipulated. Maybe both sides can reach a deal. Najib appeals to Vietnamese government to allow Sime Darby Motors chief operating officer Simon Rock who is facing several charges of tax impropriety in Vietnam to be allowed to return home.

Read more at http://www.thestar.com.my/news/nati...will-be-given-fair-trial/#K2jYPMrGazWBf6jI.99


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Frigate HMNZS TE KAHA (New Zealand) to a visit in Đà Nẵng

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I was on the Sister Ship of this one HMNZS Te Mana (Pennant Number F77) when It was ported in Sydney, it was 1 of 10 Australian and New Zealand Class Frigate, and the only 1 of 2 New Zealand Frigate (That's all their Naval Surface Combat Force) That ship represent 50% of all New Zealand Navy

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I was on the Sister Ship of this one HMNZS Te Mana (Pennant Number F77) when It was ported in Sydney, it was 1 of 10 Australian and New Zealand Class Frigate, and the only 1 of 2 New Zealand Frigate (That's all their Naval Surface Combat Force) That ship represent 50% of all New Zealand Navy

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Really two ships that's all?

That is unbelievable. Imagine Vietnam sends half of warships to a friendly visit to New Zealand.

I believe if Vietnam is as far as away from a certain country, protected by vast oceans and hungry sharks, we will copy the kiwi and reduce our naval force to a minimum. It may be enough to learn the Haka war dance to intimidate our enemy :D
 
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Really two ships that's all?

That is unbelievable. Imagine Vietnam sends half of warships to a friendly visit to New Zealand.

I believe if Vietnam is as far as away from a certain country, protected by vast oceans and hungry sharks, we will copy the kiwi and reduce our naval force to a minimum. It may be enough to learn the Haka war dance to intimidate our enemy :D

I should say 50% surface combatant. Not 50% of New Zealand ship's :)

Their whole navy have 11 ships, 2 Frigate, 6 PB, 2 underway replenishment and 1 minesweeper.

Yes, that ship represent 50% of New Zealand Firepower.
 
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I should say 50% surface combatant. Not 50% of New Zealand ship's :)

Their whole navy have 11 ships, 2 Frigate, 6 PB, 2 underway replenishment and 1 minesweeper.

Yes, that ship represent 50% of New Zealand Firepower.
I understand you. 50 pct of new zealand firepower is on vacation, while the other 50 pct protects the country. Ha ha ha.
 
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I understand you. 50 pct of new zealand firepower is on vacation, while the other 50 pct protects the country. Ha ha ha.

Well, the Aussie always joke about New Zealand defence force for their lack of equipment, they were originally planned to buy 4 of these ships, then only 2, then only 1, then forced to get 2, if it is up to the Kiwis, they weren't interested with this project to begin with, they were desperately trying to unhinged from the ANZUS pact, they even called to have the ship's capability nerfed so they will have inferior radars and propulsion system then the Australian ANZAC.

I think they are a peace loving bunch :)
 
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While on mention of New Zealand Navy, they will acquire a 24,000 ton multi-support role ship.

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The Royal New Zealand Navy (RNZN) has announced that the name of its newest and biggest ship will be HMNZS Aotearoa.

Construction of the new 24,000-tonne vessel, the largest ship ever operated by the RNZN, will start next year, for delivery in January 2020.

Five members of an RNZN panel, chaired by Deputy Chief of Navy Commodore David Gibbs, considered a range of names, with a shortlist presented to Chief of Navy Rear Admiral John Martin for his final decision.

It was a big name for a big ship, Rear Admiral Martin said.

“HMNZS Aotearoa will represent us as a nation on the international stage whether conducting operational support, maritime sustainment or providing humanitarian aid and disaster relief. Aotearoa will be recognisable within the Pacific region and identifiable with all New Zealanders.”

HMNZS Aotearoa has twice the displacement of HMNZS Endeavour, which is scheduled for decommissioning next year, and will carry 30 per cent more fuel. South Korean firm Hyundai Heavy Industries, the world’s biggest shipbuilder, will build Aotearoa.

Rear Admiral Martin said Aotearoa, while replacing Endeavour, offered more than just a replenishment role.

“Aotearoa will have the ability to deploy anywhere in the world to support maritime operations and enhance our combat force,” he said. “It has the ability to conduct embarked helicopter operations and will be capable of carrying a significant tonnage of operational supplies. And it will provide an important Antarctic support capability to assist with our Southern Ocean monitoring.”

HMNZS Aotearoa will be a world-first naval “Environship”, with Hyundai using the Rolls-Royce Environship concept design under licence. The design incorporates a new wave-piercing hull, which reduces resistance and lowers fuel use, while its combined diesel electric and diesel propulsion plant has lower fuel emissions than older vessels.

The design and capabilities of HMNZS Aotearoa were announced by the Ministry of Defence in 2016. The cost includes the tanker’s enhanced “winterisation” capabilities, such as ice-strengthening for operations in Antarctica, including resupplying McMurdo Station and Scott Base. HMNZS Endeavour is not Antarctic-capable.

The Defence White Paper 2016 identified Antarctica as a “focus on increasing international interest” while noting the New Zealand Defence Force’s “critical role” in supporting personnel in the Ross Dependency and monitoring activity in the Southern Ocean.

“Aotearoa will be the type of purpose-built, technologically enhanced asset that will add real value to our combat operations, humanitarian relief functions and our operational and training support,” Rear Admiral Martin said.

New Plymouth, Endeavour’s home port, would become the home port for Aotearoa, he said.

“This continues the longstanding relationship the RNZN has had with the Taranaki region, and its link to the sea. It also recognises the connection between the area’s oil and gas industry and the role of Aotearoa in providing fuel services.”

Governor-General Dame Patsy Reddy would be the official Lady Sponsor of Aotearoa, Rear Admiral Martin said.

“As the representative of our Head of State, she is a fitting dignitary to launch the ship.”

The ship’s name is a deliberate nod to the famous battle cruiser HMS New Zealand, which took part in three maritime battles in the First World War.

“I’m proud that Aotearoa acknowledges what has gone before but this time with a uniquely Kiwi flavour,” Rear Admiral Martin said.
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http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/CU1704/S00156/aotearoa-the-name-chosen-for-navys-largest-ship.htm
 
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While on mention of New Zealand Navy, they will acquire a 24,000 ton multi-support role ship.

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The Royal New Zealand Navy (RNZN) has announced that the name of its newest and biggest ship will be HMNZS Aotearoa.

Construction of the new 24,000-tonne vessel, the largest ship ever operated by the RNZN, will start next year, for delivery in January 2020.

Five members of an RNZN panel, chaired by Deputy Chief of Navy Commodore David Gibbs, considered a range of names, with a shortlist presented to Chief of Navy Rear Admiral John Martin for his final decision.

It was a big name for a big ship, Rear Admiral Martin said.

“HMNZS Aotearoa will represent us as a nation on the international stage whether conducting operational support, maritime sustainment or providing humanitarian aid and disaster relief. Aotearoa will be recognisable within the Pacific region and identifiable with all New Zealanders.”

HMNZS Aotearoa has twice the displacement of HMNZS Endeavour, which is scheduled for decommissioning next year, and will carry 30 per cent more fuel. South Korean firm Hyundai Heavy Industries, the world’s biggest shipbuilder, will build Aotearoa.

Rear Admiral Martin said Aotearoa, while replacing Endeavour, offered more than just a replenishment role.

“Aotearoa will have the ability to deploy anywhere in the world to support maritime operations and enhance our combat force,” he said. “It has the ability to conduct embarked helicopter operations and will be capable of carrying a significant tonnage of operational supplies. And it will provide an important Antarctic support capability to assist with our Southern Ocean monitoring.”

HMNZS Aotearoa will be a world-first naval “Environship”, with Hyundai using the Rolls-Royce Environship concept design under licence. The design incorporates a new wave-piercing hull, which reduces resistance and lowers fuel use, while its combined diesel electric and diesel propulsion plant has lower fuel emissions than older vessels.

The design and capabilities of HMNZS Aotearoa were announced by the Ministry of Defence in 2016. The cost includes the tanker’s enhanced “winterisation” capabilities, such as ice-strengthening for operations in Antarctica, including resupplying McMurdo Station and Scott Base. HMNZS Endeavour is not Antarctic-capable.

The Defence White Paper 2016 identified Antarctica as a “focus on increasing international interest” while noting the New Zealand Defence Force’s “critical role” in supporting personnel in the Ross Dependency and monitoring activity in the Southern Ocean.

“Aotearoa will be the type of purpose-built, technologically enhanced asset that will add real value to our combat operations, humanitarian relief functions and our operational and training support,” Rear Admiral Martin said.

New Plymouth, Endeavour’s home port, would become the home port for Aotearoa, he said.

“This continues the longstanding relationship the RNZN has had with the Taranaki region, and its link to the sea. It also recognises the connection between the area’s oil and gas industry and the role of Aotearoa in providing fuel services.”

Governor-General Dame Patsy Reddy would be the official Lady Sponsor of Aotearoa, Rear Admiral Martin said.

“As the representative of our Head of State, she is a fitting dignitary to launch the ship.”

The ship’s name is a deliberate nod to the famous battle cruiser HMS New Zealand, which took part in three maritime battles in the First World War.

“I’m proud that Aotearoa acknowledges what has gone before but this time with a uniquely Kiwi flavour,” Rear Admiral Martin said.
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http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/CU1704/S00156/aotearoa-the-name-chosen-for-navys-largest-ship.htm

HMNZS Aotearoa is slated to replace HMNZS Endeavour as fleet tanker, in the future NZ Navy, they opt to go with smaller number of ship, they will replace both HMNZS Manawanui and HMNZS Resolution with the Offshore Patrol support role, also they will sell all in-shore Patrol boat and buy 1 or 2 more off shore ship in its place, that would mean the future Royal NZ Navy will have a ship strength of 8 to 9 ships.

By the way Aotearoa is the Maori name for New Zealand
 
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Well, the Aussie always joke about New Zealand defence force for their lack of equipment, they were originally planned to buy 4 of these ships, then only 2, then only 1, then forced to get 2, if it is up to the Kiwis, they weren't interested with this project to begin with, they were desperately trying to unhinged from the ANZUS pact, they even called to have the ship's capability nerfed so they will have inferior radars and propulsion system then the Australian ANZAC.

I think they are a peace loving bunch :)
the kiwi folks are not only peaceful but also smart people. They travel thousands of miles far from home to bring New Zealand to Vietnam, promoting friendship, not only for fun but also advance own economic interests. Such visit pays off. The kiwi trade with Vietnam is on the rise, so the number of Vietnamese students in New Zealand. Reportedly 2,000 Vietnamese students are enrolled last year, and the number increases by 110 pct this year. The other dark side of the coin: the number of illegal fishing is also on the rise.

http://www.radionz.co.nz/news/national/329800/foreign-student-numbers-jump

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Ha Vo from Vietnam is one of those more than 130,000 foreign students expected to study in New Zealand this year. She is in her third year of study at Victoria University. Photo: RNZ / John Gerritsen
 
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the kiwi folks are not only peaceful but also smart people. They travel thousands of miles far from home to bring New Zealand to Vietnam, promoting friendship, not only for fun but also advance own economic interests. Such visit pays off. The kiwi trade with Vietnam is on the rise, so the number of Vietnamese students in New Zealand. Reportedly 2,000 Vietnamese students are enrolled last year, and the number increases by 110 pct this year. The other dark side of the coin: the number of illegal fishing is also on the rise.

http://www.radionz.co.nz/news/national/329800/foreign-student-numbers-jump

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Ha Vo from Vietnam is one of those more than 130,000 foreign students expected to study in New Zealand this year. She is in her third year of study at Victoria University. Photo: RNZ / John Gerritsen

There are heck a lot of Vietnamese Student in Australia as well, I used to go to school in International College of Management, Sydney, they have a college in Vietnam than allow Vietnamese student to studied the third year in Australia.

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Ok pride may be a better term. I think, too seeking a peaceful solution is better than leading a nation thru a valley of blood and tears. But sometimes there is no way out. To understand Vietnam you should understand their way of thinking. Here a video cut from a popular theatre piece, depicting the first Vietnamese rebellion led by the Trung sisters against the Han Chinese rule in the years 38-43.

Why the rebellion?

Vietnam back in the days was a province of Chinese empire, ruled by a central authority in China and local lords in Vietnam. All starts when the husband of Trung's elder sister was executed by the Han Chinese. The Chinese accused Trung's elder husband of committing treason. The Trung sisters vowed to revenge, utilizing the wide spred Vietnamese public anger against the Chinese rule. The ultimate goal: ending the Chinese rule and leading Vietnam out of slavery.

The Trung's were of noble families. They learned martial arts since childhood.

Now you are independent country, still you have very deep cultural umbilical ties with China.

Not military but regardless I post here. Three recent news that shock Vietnam.

Japan

On the way to her school, a 9-year old Vietnamese schoolgirl called Linh went missing. Her naked body was found later near a drainage ditch. Japanese police arrests in the connection a 46-year-old man named Shibuya Yasumasa on the morning of April 14. He is believed to have kidnapped, sexually abused, strangulated the girl to death. Her boby shows sign of injury.

The man is head of the parents’ association at Linh’s school. Japan public is shocked. Japanese government expresses deep condolences. Japan's Ambassador to Vietnam Umeda Kunio conveys apology to Linh's father in front of their home in the northern province of Hung Yen.

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There are heck a lot of Vietnamese Student in Australia as well, I used to go to school in International College of Management, Sydney, they have a college in Vietnam than allow Vietnamese student to studied the third year in Australia.

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Are the girls vietnamese or chinese? I can't recognize them. Well Australia has lots more Vietnamese population than the Kiwi land hence no surprise. Besides Australia is very popular for Vietnamese to study.

Picture of one of the reclaimed reefs in the Spratly Islands, West London Reef (Dao Da Tay) and its measurements:

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Wonderful I like it :tup:
 
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Are the girls vietnamese or chinese? I can't recognize them. Well Australia has lots more Vietnamese population than the Kiwi land hence no surprise. Besides Australia is very popular for Vietnamese to study.


Wonderful I like it :tup:

Well, I took those photo from ICMS Vietnamese student section, I guess they are Vietnamese (Kind of weird to have Chinese to promote the college to Vietnamese student...)
 
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