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[Viet]

Thank you for your graceful advise and calm words of wisdom, an attitude worthy of a Samurai!

Good morning from Germany. How are you today?
Very interesting and hot discussion between you and historian.

 

[Viet]

let me post some news relating to this thread topic

60 overseas young Vietnamese visited Naval Brigade 171

the Japanese Government has decided to provide Vietnam with six used patrol boats (600-800t), some lifeboats and other equipments including naval training as part of a non-refundable aid, worth JPY500 million.

a private man Bui Hien develops a mini helicopter

 

[BoQ77]

let me post some news relating to this thread topic

60 overseas young Vietnamese visited Naval Brigade 171

the Japanese Government has decided to provide Vietnam with six used patrol boats (600-800t), some lifeboats and other equipments as part of a non-refundable aid, worth JPY500 million.

As I know, 2 ships of Fishery Surveillance and 4 ships 600-800 ton ...

 

[William Hung]

As I know, 2 ships of Fishery Surveillance and 4 ships 600-800 ton ...

Japanese only giving you 2 coast guard patrol boat and 4 fishing boat.

The 2 patrol boats are the old Teshio class vessel. 630 ton and 17knot max speed. You can't play cat and mouse game with this boat.

The other 4 boats are steel commercial fishing boats up to 800ton.

@Viet, you did not beg hard enough. You only get weak boats.

 

[BoQ77]

Japanese only giving you 2 coast guard patrol boat and 4 fishing boat.

The 2 patrol boats are the old Teshio class vessel. 630 ton and 17knot max speed. You can't play cat and mouse game with this boat.

The other 4 boats are steel commercial fishing boats up to 800ton.

@Viet, you did not beg hard enough. You only get weak boats.

do you have the link for source?

 

[William Hung]

do you have the link for source?

I am the source, you can trust me. Only 2 Teshio class patrol boats this time. In far future, maybe Japan give more Teshio class when they decommissioned. But only 2 now, the other 4 are steel fishing boats which is even slower.

Slow and old boats, I recommend not to play the ramming game with them.

 

[vtnsx]

I am the source, you can trust me. Only 2 Teshio class patrol boats this time. In far future, maybe Japan give more Teshio class when they decommissioned. But only 2 now, the other 4 are steel fishing boats which is even slower.

Slow and old boats, I recommend not to play the ramming game with them.

lol, for all i know, Japanese people either provide something worth high quality or don't provide at all.

 

[William Hung]

lol, for all i know, Japanese people either provide something worth high quality or don't provide at all.

What about JAV? are they all high quality? you don't think there are mediocre ones? I rest my case.

They only giving 2 secondhand Teshio class boats.

 

[vtnsx]

What about JAV? are they all high quality? you don't think there are mediocre ones? I rest my case.

They only giving 2 secondhand Teshio class boats.

Well that speaks about them.

 

[eazzy]

^ GrandHistorian I admire your patience.

 

[BoQ77]

You can use that excuse for anything,just because we are not sure doesn't invalidate my claims.

You just dug your own grave you claim the Baiyue as Viet yet we see Austroasiatics,Austronesians,Tai Kadai and Hmong Mien speakers.

Read my above posts not all of Guangdong and Guangxi rebelled,even the Yue label is from China there is no proof that the Baiyue of the Han dynasty even used this ethonym.

Proximity doesn't automatically make people relatives,and you have provided absolutely nothing in regards to whether Baiyue viewed each other as kin.

SCS has nothing to do with what we're discussing,why are PDF Vietnamese so academically incompetent?

@Grand Historian : you keep trolling 1 subject on every thread you joined, at least you should mention that this is military news thread

@Hu Songshan : you banned me several times because just 1 offtopic post ... why you leave this guy troll around with off-topic post ? it's unfair to others

@Kaan

 

[William Hung]

You are trolling in Vietnam thread

let me post some news relating to this thread topic

60 overseas young Vietnamese visited Naval Brigade 171

the Japanese Government has decided to provide Vietnam with six used patrol boats (600-800t), some lifeboats and other equipments including naval training as part of a non-refundable aid, worth JPY500 million.

a private man Bui Hien develops a mini helicopter

You posted wrong photo. This page has photo of all the 14 teshio class boats active in Japan CG. 2 of that will be donated. Some were active since 1980 lol.

日本海上保安厅 PM型中型巡视船_环球军事网

 

[BoQ77]

Then why do you Vietnamese always try to claim Southern China?

I simply refute Vietnamese claims yet this somehow get's twisted to trollin?

You are free to express your opinion, but you spam your opinion thousand times .. post off-topic
that's spammer
Get it ?

 

[William Hung]

I suggest you read the whole thread and look again at the many, many instances of trash talk, which most often come from chinese members and started before i even came to this forum. If there is one thing that I haven't seen much of in the vietnamese threads is just discussion of military issues, threads quickly slide into name calling and insults between chinese and vietnamese members. Saying that I was the first is not accurate at all.

The moon thing is clearly a joke and I can hardly be considered offensive to an ethnic group since it is related to the issue of unsubstantiated claims.

When I talk about features of chinese people which I clearly stated that are general statements and I clearly stated that I see individuals as individuals, no matter what the nationality, race or religion, I never say ALL and I also explained clearly (to Viet, earlier that same day) why mainland chinese developed those features as opposite to Taiwanese or Singaporean ethnic chinese, did you bother to look at that? If you look at the WHOLE of what I wrote, rather than taking some statements out of context, you'll see that there is no racism there, but anyway, I don't think you are looking at things with impartiality. Did you analyze your own statements in the past by the way?

And to be fair, the apology from grand historian came while I was writing my post, so I didn't see it, its good that he does a bit of self reflection, but anyway, I'm not the only one having issues with him, many people have lately and most people got a bit tired of him.

Hey you are writing off-topic. Please kindly practice what you preach and hit the report button on you own post for off topic.

On topic: Teshio class, in service since 1980.

 

[EastSea]

Hey you are writing off-topic. Please kindly practice what you preach and hit the report button on you own post for off topic.

On topic: Teshio class, in service since 1980.

Related to ODA òf Japan, until now detail information does not disclosed officially. If it should be Teshio class is good enough because after upgrading with new facilities, it is OK. it belong to ships class 500t.

But it reported there is a Bizan class, it is only 180t.

This Bizan ship class is small patrol boat, 40 meters long, power volume is 180 tons, a crew of 25 people, one 20 mm cannon armed JM-61 Vulcan six-barreled Gatling. The maximum speed of these vessels is 35 knots (65 km / h).

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