Uygur restaurateur from Xinjiang, detained in Turkey for suspected terror links, wary of China’s rea

[beijingwalker]

Uygur restaurateur from Xinjiang, detained in Turkey for suspected terror links, wary of China’s reach

• Kerem Mamut was held for three months in Turkey deportation centres
• He was suspected of communicating with two people who had links to a terrorist organisation
• He believes Turkey may have been cooperating with Chinese authorities

PUBLISHED : Tuesday, 05 February, 2019, 1:14pm

Late at night on October 31 last year, Wang Yi and her husband Kerem Mamut had just returned to their home in Basaksehir, a middle-class Istanbul neighbourhood, after a visit to the doctor to treat one of their children who had a fever.

The couple who are from China’s Xinjiang province, but have lived in Turkey for a decade, then heard loud bangs at the door.

“The neighbours,” they said to themselves, until one of their daughters ran upstairs. It was the police.

Twenty members of a Turkish special police unit detained Mamut and took him to a nearby police station to question him.

Mamut, a Chinese Uygur who held a Turkey residence permit, was suspected of communicating by phone with two people who had links to a terrorist organisation.

For three months, he was held at two deportation centres in Turkey without charge. His family and lawyer speculate he might have been targeted as part of China’s efforts to pressure Turkey to repatriate some ethnic Uygur Muslims living abroad.

The 53-year-old Chinese passport holder, who owns restaurants in Turkey and China, was held for two months at the first deportation centre.

There he said, his interrogators regularly asked if he wanted to be sent back to China.

Late December, Mamut was transferred to another deportation centre in Izmir, a city on Turkey’s Aegean coast.

Then on January 25, Mamut was unexpectedly granted conditional release.

“These accusations of terrorism are so remote from who I am,” Mamut told South China Morning Post in Istanbul last week during an emotional gathering with his family.

That evening, Mamut hugged his 10-year-old son Babur, whom he did not see during his three-month detention.

“We initially thought it might be a misunderstanding and that they would investigate quickly,” said Mamut’s wife Wang about her husband’s detention.

“But as time went on, we started to think that things were not that simple.”

Wang, a Han Chinese mother of four who holds Turkish citizenship, took over running the couple’s Chinese-Uygur restaurant while Mamut was being held.

The restaurant called Kroren, in Istanbul’s conservative Fatih district, is well-known to both Uygur and Chinese people, including employees of China’s consulate in the city.

Mamut’s lawyer, Lokman Akcay, called the case a “massive mystery” and has yet to be shown concrete evidence that proves his client’s alleged links to a terrorist organisation.

https://www.scmp.com/news/world/eur...njiang-detained-turkey-suspected-terror-links

 

[beijingwalker]

This Uyghur persecution is Turkey's own doing, has nothing to do with China.

 

[MMM-E]

real terrorist is China who killed millions of unarmed innocent Uyghurs after WW2

 

[beijingwalker]

real terrorist is China who killed millions of unarmed innocent Uyghurs after WW2

Uyghur population were barely couples of millions after WW2, now over 10 million and is the single fastest growing ethnic group in China, try to claim that China killed millions of ethnic Koreans in China cause they are the slowest growing group among all ethnic groups in China, at least you have a number to back you up a little bit.

real terrorist is China who killed millions of unarmed innocent Uyghurs after WW2

real terrorist is what Tureky did and is still doing to ethnic Armenians and Kurds.

Armenian Genocide
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armenian_Genocide

 

[AViet]

I see many Westerners have this trend, i.e. claim something and then invent the data to back-up. That tradition seems to root in Western society and Western "social science" since ancient time.

One example is that Finnish was seen as Asian in late 19 century, just because they were poor and backward. At that time, Western "science" made up stories about their genetic and cultural roots to prove that they were Asian (Mongoloid), otherwise they could not prove that all European were modern people who either resided in cities or worked on field.

Now as Finland is rich and modern, of course European is seeing Finnish as their blonde hair blue-eyed European brothers.

I can mention dozens of examples like that.

Now I cannot trust in western claims about Mao killing 60 millions in Cultural Revolution (of course it fake) or Holocaust. These may be all inventions by Western imaginary journalists for propaganda purpose.

One hint to our Indian friends: try to become rich. Now you are seen as backward Asian, but if you are rich, you will be seen as Aryan brothers by European and perhaps they will claim Indian culture is part of European heritage.

 

[MMM-E]

Uyghur population were barely couples of millions after WW2, now over 10 million and is the single fastest growing ethnic group in China, try to claim that China killed millions of ethnic Koreans in China cause they are the slowest growing group among all ethnic groups in China, at least you have a number to back you up a little bit.

https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-...-killed-45-million-in-four-years-2081630.html

Communist China is a criminal state
MAO killed 45 million of own people in 4 years between 1958 and 1962
even I can not imagine what Communist regime did to the Uyghurs



China occupied East Turkestan in 1878 and China changed the name of Turkestan to Xinjiang (that means newly acquired land in Chinese language )

-- Uygurs was executed as a slave in heavy works
-- Pregnant women who work in stone carried jobs such as bridge construction are prevented from having children
-- People who had more than one child in marriage were exposed to abortion
-- Leading people of various Turkic nations in East Turkestan were struck
-- Uygur women who wearing headscarf and burqa also men with long beards forbidding the use of public transport in East Turkestan
-- According to the decision, everyone who has a crescent and star symbol in his clothing cannot benefit from public transportation within the scope of this ban

If the Chinese did not slaughter millions of Uygurs then Uyghur population would be over 30 million today

 

[MMM-E]

A tiny country called Turkey actually is an occuied land, your ancestors were kicked out of central Asia and today's Turkey by no means is yours, you better go back to your ancestral land in the stepps of Mongolia and become a Chinese province.

My ancestors ruled 44 countries in 3 continents for centurries in peace and justice

Turks never committed genocide in history

Brief there were a genocide, but a genocide committed by armenian,,greek,,bulgarian,,russian and serbian terrorists against the muslim populations in Balkans,Anatolia and Caucasia

According to the American historian Justin McCarthy, between the years 1821–1922
5 million Muslims were driven from their lands and another 5.5 million died some of them killed in wars, others perishing as refugees from starvation or disease

you better go back to your ancestral land in the stepps of Mongolia and become a Chinese province.

Great warrior Mongols kicked little Chinese ching chongs

and You pray for the US that saved China from Japan in WW2 or China would become Japanese province
little Chinese ching chongs can attack only unarmed Uygurs , nothing else

 

[beijingwalker]

My ancestors ruled 44 countries in 3 continents for centurries in peace and justice

Turks never committed genocide in history

Brief there were a genocide, but a genocide committed by armenian,,greek,,bulgarian,,russian and serbian terrorists against the muslim populations in Balkans,Anatolia and Caucasia

According to the American historian Justin McCarthy, between the years 1821–1922
5 million Muslims were driven from their lands and another 5.5 million died some of them killed in wars, others perishing as refugees from starvation or disease





Great warrior Mongols kicked little Chinese ching chongs

and You pray for the US that saved China from Japan in WW2 or China would become Japanese province
little Chinese ching chongs can attack only unarmed Uygurs , nothing else

You ancestors were Mongolian looking tribes kicked out by our ancestors out of their ancestrol land, as for Turkish now, you are just a conquered nation who long forgot your own conquered and enslaved true ancestors, how pathetic.. As for WW2, we won and that's why we are an permanent member sitting in the UNSC and you were just part of Nazi camp who suffered humiliating defeat and Japanese actually use Chinese language and their culture is a branch of the Chinese culture, guess you don't know. Today's turkey is just a weak go for nothing tiny nation having no global influence of any kind at all. China won't go that low to compare China with a tiny place like Turkey.

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

One example is that Finnish was seen as Asian in late 19 century, just because they were poor and backward. At that time, Western "science" made up stories about their genetic and cultural roots to prove that they were Asian (Mongoloid), otherwise they could not prove that all European were modern people who either resided in cities or worked on field.

Now as Finland is rich and modern, of course European is seeing Finnish as their blonde hair blue-eyed European brothers.

I can mention dozens of examples like that.

Now I cannot trust in western claims about Mao killing 60 millions in Cultural Revolution (of course it fake) or Holocaust. These may be all inventions by Western imaginary journalists for propaganda purpose.

One hint to our Indian friends: try to become rich. Now you are seen as backward Asian, but if you are rich, you will be seen as Aryan brothers by European and perhaps they will claim Indian culture is part of European heritage.

I think you are confusing some of the original artic “Laplanders” with the “Finnish” people. I believe they are similar to the Eskimos and Inuits of Alaska, Canada, and Greenland.

Inuit people

 

[MMM-E]

You ancestors were Mongolian looking tribes kicked out by our ancestors out of their ancestrol land, as for Turkish now

My ancestors were Oghuz Turks ,, not Mongol or Mongolian looking tribes such as Kazakh or Kyrgyz ( Kypchak Türks )

btw Our cousins Mongols are great warriors who created the biggest empire in history
China is nothing in history

China tried to take Turkistan in the 8th century
but Turks and Arabs kicked little Chinese ching chongs in the battle of TALAS in 751
and China occupied only unarmed East Turkistan ... nothing else

we won and that's why we are an permanent member sitting in the UNSC

Germany and Japan easly beat pathetic France and China in WW2
but Russians stoped Germans in Europe and the US stoped Japan in Asia with Atomic Bombs

I am saying again You pray for the US that saved China from Japan in WW2 or China would become Japanese province

little Chinese ching chongs can attack only unarmed Uygurs , nothing else

 

[beijingwalker]

My ancestors were Oghuz Turks ,, not Mongol or Mongolian looking tribes such as Kazakh or Kyrgyz ( Kypchak Türks )

btw Our cousins Mongols are great warriors who created the biggest empire in history
China is nothing in history

China tried to take Turkistan in the 8th century
but Turks and Arabs kicked little Chinese ching chongs in the battle of TALAS in 751
and China occupied only unarmed East Turkistan ... nothing else




Germany and Japan easly beat pathetic France and China in WW2
but Russians stoped Germans in Europe and the US stoped Japan in Asia with Atomic Bombs

I am saying again You pray for the US that saved China from Japan in WW2 or China would become Japanese province

little Chinese ching chongs can attack only unarmed Uygurs , nothing else

First Turks were all from Mongolian stepps and check your DNA, you are just local conquered Anatolians blindly believe those who slaughtered your true ancestors your own ancestors, can anything in this world can be more pathetic. For what we contribute to today's world, the whole East Asian are following our common cultures , ideologies , customs and written languages, who you Turks still have, you lost everything of your own to Arabs, we've got nothing left.
Japan by and large a part of our Chinese culture, their language, traditions, beliefs and even architecture. Chinese culture is the mother of Japanese and Korean cultural branches, they all admit that, for WW2, at Japan's heydays , they only struggle to hold less than a third of China's land, but they never managed to administer those lands cause they just can't , it's an large scale war fought by China and Japan for 8 years and most part of the war it was a stalemate which both countries still kept throwing millions of troops to the front stretching thousands of miles, no one was indeed defeated, almost half of the Japanese casualties in the WW2 were suffered in China. What's Turkey's contribution to WW2 ?

 

[MMM-E]

First Turks were all from Mongolian stepps

Chinese are trying to teach me my own history ..... very funny

First Turks were all from South Siberia in 3000 BC ( present day Republic of Khakassia Abakan ) ,, not from Mongolia

you lost everything of your own to Arabs, we've got nothing left.

We Turks lost nothing , We Turks have our own country and language and great history and culture
Arabs and Persians were ruled by the Turks for over 900 years
also 44 countries were ruled by the Turks for centuries
and Turks,Arabs,Persians,Kurds,Bosnians,Albanians,Georgians,Chechens,Circassians,etc mixed eeach others in the last 1000 years

Turkey has more brother countries than China has
Turkey has great soft power from Bosnia to East Turkistan of China

and Turks,Japanese,Koreans,Mongols uses Altaic languages



btw communist MAO and STALIN killed over 100 milllion people ,
MAO and STALIN were 10 times worse than HITLER

HITLER vs all cowards MAO,STALIN,ROOSEVELT,CHURCHILL,DE GAULIE

 

[Nein]

First Turks were all from Mongolian stepps and check your DNA, you are just local conquered Anatolians blindly believe those who slaughtered your true ancestors your own ancestors, can anything in this world can be more pathetic. For what we contribute to today's world, the whole East Asian are following our common cultures , ideologies , customs and written languages, who you Turks still have, you lost everything of your own to Arabs, we've got nothing left.
Japan by and large a part of our Chinese culture, their language, traditions, beliefs and even architecture. Chinese culture is the mother of Japanese and Korean cultural branches, they all admit that, for WW2, at Japan's heydays , they only struggle to hold less than a third of China's land, but they never managed to administer those lands cause they just can't , it's an large scale war fought by China and Japan for 8 years and most part of the war it was a stalemate which both countries still kept throwing millions of troops to the front stretching thousands of miles, no one was indeed defeated, almost half of the Japanese casualties in the WW2 were suffered in China. What's Turkey's contribution to WW2 ?

If Turkey should return back to Mongolia that means F Off from East Turkestan, Tibet, Manchuria and Inner Mongolia you might as well kick the Taiwanese as they are Chinese Settlers who displaced the native Taiwanese.

We can all play this game of returning land back mr Chinamen

 

[xenon54 out]

Wow and all this time i thought Turkey was supporting etim, i will never again trust the Chinese in PDF.

 

[Yankee-stani]

*China-Turkish PDF Fight get the popcorn yayyyyy @Pan-Islamic-Pakistan @Foxtrot Delta