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Report: China Better; Still Must Cut Trade Surplus With US

By Marcy Gordon, AP business writer
WASHINGTON — Oct 14, 2016, 4:35 PM ET

China has improved its position by reducing its current-account surplus relative to its economy but it remains one of a handful of countries that need to trim their large trade imbalances with the U.S., the Obama administration says.

The assessment came in a report sent to Congress on Friday. The twice-yearly report, submitted by law by the Treasury Department, doesn't designate China or any other nation as a currency manipulator. But it singles out the six countries, all major U.S. trading partners — China, Germany, Japan, Korea, Switzerland and Taiwan — for special monitoring and U.S. pressure on their governments to change practices.

In the new report, Treasury added Switzerland to the list, saying its trade with the U.S. is now large enough to make it a major trading partner and subject to the Treasury's analysis.

Being on the list opens the way to U.S. negotiations over lopsided trade balances with the countries' governments.

Under a process Congress established this year, if the negotiations fail, the U.S. can seek to impose trade sanctions such as penalty tariffs, though those sanctions must win approval of the World Trade Organization.

There are three criteria for putting a country on the list: The size of the country's trade surplus with the U.S., the size of the country's current-account trade surplus overall, and the frequency with which it intervenes in currency markets.

In the case of China, Treasury said it met only one of the criteria, the large trade surplus with the U.S., compared with two in the last report issued in April. China's current-account surplus fell to 2.4 percent of its gross domestic product for the last four quarters through June, below the 3 percent critical level, the report says.

In addition, China has intervened in the currency markets to prevent a rapid depreciation of its currency, the renminbi, that would have had a negative impact on the Chinese and global economies, the report notes. The renminbi recently hit a six-year low against the dollar.

It's important for China to continue market-oriented change of its currency system, Treasury says.​

The last country designated a currency manipulator by the U.S. government was China in 1994 during the Clinton administration.

The large U.S. trade imbalances with countries such as China, Japan became an issue in the presidential campaign.

Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump has contended that the Obama administration and previous administrations have failed to enforce U.S. trade laws. He has said those failures have allowed foreign countries to run huge trade surpluses with the United States, costing millions of American jobs.

Trump has said he would direct his Treasury secretary to immediately declare China a currency manipulator as a way to bring the country to the bargaining table to change trade practices that hurt U.S. workers and companies.

http://abcnews.go.com/Business/wireStory/report-china-cut-trade-surplus-us-42815228
 
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USA should not lecture other countries since countries like Greece and Venezuela don't get this treatment. How about USA let their banks fail instead? Why USA must get special treatment?


really Venezuela?? why do they deserve any treatment at all? 21st century socialism runied that country. could have been a Chile or Argentina, but it's poor even though it has the largest oil reserves in the world, fertile soil (but imports all it's food) and beautiful scenercy for tourism, but it's a violent crap hole.

U.S needs to fix the trade imbalance with China, and the best way to do it is to stop shopping at Walmart :coffee:
 
really Venezuela?? why do they deserve any treatment at all? 21st century socialism runied that country. could have been a Chile or Argentina, but it's poor even though it has the largest oil reserves in the world, fertile soil (but imports all it's food) and beautiful scenercy for tourism, but it's a violent crap hole.

U.S needs to fix the trade imbalance with China, and the best way to do it is to stop shopping at Walmart :coffee:
Only a commie will bail out banks.

Good, cause those paper dollar are worthless in the future. There are no WW2 Europeon money coming your way. So best bet is instigate an Asia war.
 
really Venezuela?? why do they deserve any treatment at all? 21st century socialism runied that country. could have been a Chile or Argentina, but it's poor even though it has the largest oil reserves in the world, fertile soil (but imports all it's food) and beautiful scenercy for tourism, but it's a violent crap hole.

U.S needs to fix the trade imbalance with China, and the best way to do it is to stop shopping at Walmart :coffee:

And buy what instead? Walmart is accessible for the masses and keep prices low and goods within the reach of even the poorest.

American needs to sell more to China, not buy less.
 
USA should not lecture other countries since countries like Greece and Venezuela don't get this treatment. How about USA let their banks fail instead? Why USA must get special treatment?


The currency accusation is absurd, they blame Yen, RMB, Euro, NTD, KWR and now even add CHF of Switzerland to the list, all of six of them manipulated? When three of them being SDR currencies? Or it's the USD that's should be questioned? Of course, these six targets are easy to blame. G10 of creditor nations:
  1. JAPAN: US$ +3.41896 trillion
  2. GERMANY: US$ +1.718391 trillion
  3. CHINA (Mainland): US$ +1.6636 trillion
  4. HONG KONG: US$ +1.1114652 trillion
  5. TAIWAN: US$ +1.053905 trillion (**data from end of 2015)
  6. SWITZERLAND: US$ +764.57 billion
  7. NORWAY: US$ +728.202 billion
  8. NETHERLANDS: US$ +583.5015 billion
  9. SINGAPORE: US$ +577.399 billion
  10. SAUDI ARABIA: US$ +572 billion
While US on the opposite side is a debtor nation, largest of all, US$ -8.0428 trillion. A debtor nation lecturing on six major creditors?

Source: https://defence.pk/threads/whos-worlds-4th-largest-creditor-nation.455610/page-3#ixzz4NzCq3c1R

U.S needs to fix the trade imbalance with China, and the best way to do it is to stop shopping at Walmart :coffee:


Labor-intensive industries like clothing, textiles, footwear, furniture, plastic products and ceramic only constitutes 16 percent of China exports. Major exports are: mechanical and electrical (41 percent of total exports, the largest category), high tech products (20 percent), motors and generators (5 percent) and integrated circuits (5 percent). China is world's largest exporter of electro-mechanical product/machineries. On hi-tech exports, China is even larger than Germany-Japan-US combined.

Walmart sells these?

http://www.tradingeconomics.com/china/exports
http://data.worldbank.org/indicator/TX.VAL.TECH.CD?year_high_desc=true
 
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The currency accusation is absurd, they blame Yen, RMB, Euro, NTD, KWR and now even add CHF to the list, all of them manipulated? Or it's the USD? Of course, these six targets are easy to blame. G10 of creditor nations:
  1. JAPAN: US$ +3.41896 trillion
  2. GERMANY: US$ +1.718391 trillion
  3. CHINA (Mainland): US$ +1.6636 trillion
  4. HONG KONG: US$ +1.1114652 trillion
  5. TAIWAN: US$ +1.053905 trillion (**data from end of 2015)
  6. SWITZERLAND: US$ +764.57 billion
  7. NORWAY: US$ +728.202 billion
  8. NETHERLANDS: US$ +583.5015 billion
  9. SINGAPORE: US$ +577.399 billion
  10. SAUDI ARABIA: US$ +572 billion
While US on the opposite side is a debtor nation, largest of all, US$ -8.0428 trillion. A debtor nation lecturing on what?

Source: https://defence.pk/threads/whos-worlds-4th-largest-creditor-nation.455610/page-3#ixzz4NzCq3c1R




Labor-intensive industries like clothing, textiles, footwear, furniture, plastic products and ceramic only constitutes 16 percent of China exports. Major exports are: mechanical and electrical (41 percent of total exports, the largest category), high tech products (20 percent), motors and generators (5 percent) and integrated circuits (5 percent). Walmart sell these?

http://www.tradingeconomics.com/china/exports
US need to change their lifestyle. It is too unsustainable for the world. Other countries have to subsidize them. American exeptionalism have stop.
 
US need to change their lifestyle. It is too unsustainable for the world. Other countries have to subsidize them.


US had been debtor nation since 1790, turned around to become creditor since 1914 (after WWI), and hold that position for 70 years (even during WWII), largest of all, until 1985 (Reagan times). Now US is so indebted to the world, the hole is so big that it can consume credits of Japan, Greater China (HK, TW included) and Saudi Arabia combined. (German-Swiss can't help, their credits have to feed debts of PIIGS and CEE).

Yes private consumption is one thing fueled by currency, but don't forget public spending. In fact, government expenditure and subsequently national debt, are the keys in driving US into today's position:

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You can see wars, like the Civil War, WWI, WWII and Cold War (Reaganomics), did increase sending public monies to military complexes, hence sinking the public into bigger debts. Now that public debt (as % GDP) is approaching the all-time-high of 112.7% recorded in WWII, is it War on Terror, WWIII, or just pure lack of government discipline? And the difference from WWII is, this time public debts are not domestic only, but also from foreign creditors.
 
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US had been debtor nation since 1790, turned around to become creditor since 1914 (after WWI), and hold that position for 70 years (even during WWII), largest of all, until 1985 (Reagan times). Now US is so indebted to the world, the hole is so big that it can consume credits of Japan, Greater China (HK, TW included) and Saudi Arabia combined. (German-Swiss can't help, their credits have to feed debts of PIIGS and CEE).

Yes consumption is one thing fueled by currency, but don't forget government expenditure. In fact, government expenditure, accumulated deficits, and subsequently national debt, are the keys in driving US into today's position:

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They don't even have money to fix their collapsing railway sector which saw two derailments in one week.
More to come
 
US need to change their lifestyle. It is too unsustainable for the world. Other countries have to subsidize them. American exeptionalism have stop.

This. +1000

Consuming double what you produce and relying on seigniorage at printing press from your earlier glorious years....is setting up for a long term catastrophe.
 
Only a commie will bail out banks.

Good, cause those paper dollar are worthless in the future. There are no WW2 Europeon money coming your way. So best bet is instigate an Asia war.

IMF could bail out Venezuela but it doesn't want to proper changes like getting rid of Maduro.

maybe China can bail them out, but oh wait not even China wants to lend them anymore because they even know a deadbeat when they see it.
 
US needs to pivot from the Pivot because militarizing foreign policy to such degree is inimical to economic development.

They need to cut on military spending, extensive social welfare spending and re-educate their people to live on what they actually earn.

Otherwise, lecturing other nations to allow US the privilege of having trade surplus is as effective as a toothless dog gnawing at a dry piece of bone. It won't give much juice because these countries, unlike the 80s of Japan which bent over, will not give even a respectful ear of consideration, let alone actual implementation.

If Saudis can force Obama to try to override Congressional decision upon KSA's 9/11 linkages, who in their sane mind think they can force China into a change of behavior? How will they punish China? By not buying from China?

What would be the implications on both sides if China was forced to stop exporting some low end products that flood US market through venues like Walmart and that compose only a fraction of China's exports? Have they not noticed that China is building up a mega-continent of consumption across Eurasia under the OBOR framework and the US is sidelined in this?
 
US needs to pivot from the Pivot because militarizing foreign policy to such degree is inimical to economic development.

They need to cut on military spending, extensive social welfare spending and re-educate their people to live on what they actually earn.


World currency system is perhaps the paramount challenge that the whole world is facing, NO easy solution within the forseeable future. Assuming exisiting system holds, see below CFR.org analysis prepared back in January 2016. Note, the actual debt situation deteriorates even faster than this:

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When there is no solution on currency system, yes you're right, fiscal discipline is the only way out, at least for the time being. But cutting defence spending is out of the question, reason we all know very well. Only viable options are
  1. Raise taxes.
  2. Cut back entitlements, e.g. medicare, education, social security.
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Read the full report at: http://www.cfr.org/budget-debt-and-...its/p33185?cid=otr-marketing_use-balanceowed/
 
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Currency system is perhaps the utmost difficult challenge that the whole world is facing, NO easy solution within the forseeable future. Assuming currency system holds, see below CFR.org analysis prepared back in January 2016. Note, the actual debt situation deteriorates even faster than this:


When there is no solution on currency system, yes you're right, fiscal discipline is the only way out, at least for the time being. But cutting defence spending is out of the question, reason we all know very well. Only viable options are
  1. Raise taxes.
  2. Cut back entitlements, e.g. medicare, education, social security.
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Read the full report at: http://www.cfr.org/budget-debt-and-...its/p33185?cid=otr-marketing_use-balanceowed/

Indeed, welfare appears to be a huge burden on the US economy. Apparently giving out pay checks to tens of millions of people of no economic contribution does not bode well for future. Especially under a "more open borders" Clinton administration, parasitical segments of the society would further grow in size, adding further burden on the welfare budget.

US capitalism looks like one of the worst: The state is surprisingly welfarist and socialist while it allows corporations to practice the crudest form of capitalism. Hence, while billion-dollar banks kicks people out of their homes into poverty, the government keeps providing Band-Aid help.

Perhaps it is better to be either a capitalist or a socialist country in which all segments of society are treated equally.

How much of this money borrowed from China and Japan?

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