US Politics

[T-72]

lol, those are pretty good.

also, he's leaving for the G-20

The Arab and NATO summits, meeting the pope, and his Jerusalem wall trip was blockbuster, spl the NATO part where he scolded them, the Macron handshake, and shoving the Montenegro guy.

First meeting with Putin at the G-20, a speech to a receptive audience of Polish right wingers, should be interesting, he might use it to hit back at Macron/Merkel and the EU. She recently said they (EU) couldn't count on the US anymore, and Macron's been taking various digs at him, the handshake, make earth great again with Arnold etc

Can't wait for the UN address.

it's all happening, muahahaa

 

[LA se Karachi]

 

[T-72]

Good speech in Warsaw, nicely delivered, presidential (no goof ups). Probably read it beforehand and had some input and say in what went in it to Stephen Miller, who is an excellent propagandist and speechwriter.

- praised the poles' toughness in fighting the commies and the nazis
- Russian destabilization
- radical islamic terror
- our way of life, our ancestors, western civilization is the best
- western civilization is under threat
- borders forever closed to terrorists and extremists
- west needs will to survive

then there was that bit about burdening sovereign states with supranational bureaucracies that he would like to see fail, hmm, dig at EU ?

http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/here-s-full-text-donald-trump-s-speech-poland-n780046

next to watch, his chemistry with Putin and another handshake with slimy Macron.

 

[T-72]

 

[T-72]

terrified liberals react to Trump's "alt-right" speech.

 

[T-72]

 

[F-22Raptor]

Trump Jr. Was Told in Email of Russian Effort to Aid Campaign

WASHINGTON — Before arranging a meeting with a Kremlin-connected Russian lawyer he believed would offer him compromising information about Hillary Clinton, Donald Trump Jr. was informed in an email that the material was part of a Russian government effort to aid his father’s candidacy, according to three people with knowledge of the email.

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...rt-to-aid-campaign/ar-BBEd1QN?ocid=spartanntp

Donald Jr. colluded with a foreign adversary in an attempt to acquire damaging information on his fathers opponent. This is utter treason.

 

[Gomig-21]

Trump Jr. Was Told in Email of Russian Effort to Aid Campaign

WASHINGTON — Before arranging a meeting with a Kremlin-connected Russian lawyer he believed would offer him compromising information about Hillary Clinton, Donald Trump Jr. was informed in an email that the material was part of a Russian government effort to aid his father’s candidacy, according to three people with knowledge of the email.

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...rt-to-aid-campaign/ar-BBEd1QN?ocid=spartanntp

Donald Jr. colluded with a foreign adversary in an attempt to acquire damaging information on his fathers opponent. This is utter treason.

Wait a minute! I thought this "Russia thing" was just a "nothing burger?" Isn't all this some "brilliant move" from the POTUS to "rile up the left," and expose the "fake news" from the likes of CNN and MSNBC etc.?

Watch out, people will be AGHAST that some might take this news seriously and can't figure out that this is all some genius plan from a super duper brilliant tweeting billionaire who's ultimate goal is to strengthen the conservatives and drown the liberals by draining the swamp!

 

[LA se Karachi]

Wait a minute! I thought this "Russia thing" was just a "nothing burger?" Isn't all this some "brilliant move" from the POTUS to "rile up the left," and expose the "fake news" from the likes of CNN and MSNBC etc.?

Watch out, people will be AGHAST that some might take this news seriously and can't figure out that this is all some genius plan from a super duper brilliant tweeting billionaire who's ultimate goal is to strengthen the conservatives and drown the liberals by draining the swamp!

He's manipulating the media to an approval rating below 40%.

 

[Gomig-21]

He's manipulating the media to an approval rating below 40%.

I'm surprised, no childish reactionary tweets.........yet! lol.

I think Tim Kaine might've stretched it a bit today by calling this whole thing treasonous. It might be criminally negligent and worthy of an indictment or whatever, and whether the old man knew about the meeting...or not...lol...is also not something that should be defined as treason IMO.

Either way, I've lost track of how many bombshells have come out of this administration that I'm almost immune to the shock factor now. It's like "oh, what now?" loool.

 

[F-22Raptor]

I'm surprised, no childish reactionary tweets.........yet! lol.

I think Tim Kaine might've stretched it a bit today by calling this whole thing treasonous. It might be criminally negligent and worthy of an indictment or whatever, and whether the old man knew about the meeting...or not...lol...is also not something that should be defined as treason IMO.

Either way, I've lost track of how many bombshells have come out of this administration that I'm almost immune to the shock factor now. It's like "oh, what now?" loool.

It's absolutely treason. Trump Jr. attempted to gain damaging information against the Clinton campaign from a foreign adversary. An adversary he knew was backing his father's campaign, and would have gained said information from espionage against the Clinton campaign and the United States. The Trump admin has repeatedly lied to the American people on Russian meddling, and have been caught with their pants down. If you think this is the end of the story, think again. Conspiracy, perjury, obstruction of justice/witness tampering, and treason charges are realistic IMO. It's hard to say what will happen to Trump himself, but I'd be shocked if some of Trump's associates don't end up in prison. There's a reason why Mueller has assembled such a highly acclaimed legal team. These guys aren't going to waste their time over a bunch of smoke and 'fake news' as Trump would lead us to believe.

 

[CBU-105]

 

[Gomig-21]

It's absolutely treason.

I wouldn't be so sure. The definition of "treason," as outlined in the Constitution reads as follows:

“Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort.”

Trump Jr. attempted to gain damaging information against the Clinton campaign from a foreign adversary. An adversary he knew was backing his father's campaign, and would have gained said information from espionage against the Clinton campaign and the United States. The Trump admin has repeatedly lied to the American people on Russian meddling, and have been caught with their pants down. If you think this is the end of the story, think again.

I never said it was the end of the story. But so far, it's all "potentially" criminal. We've yet to see anything that constitutes treason.

Conspiracy, perjury, obstruction of justice/witness tampering,

All potentially criminal.

and treason charges are realistic IMO.

That's where I think people like Kaine and a couple other Dem congressmen need to slow down and not throw that word out there. It's a bit premature to think treason. Treason is a very tight statute, many lawyers have come out and said that.

It's hard to say what will happen to Trump himself, but I'd be shocked if some of Trump's associates don't end up in prison. There's a reason why Mueller has assembled such a highly acclaimed legal team. These guys aren't going to waste their time over a bunch of smoke and 'fake news' as Trump would lead us to believe.

By the time Muller gets around to finding anything worthy of congressional hearings, then pressing charges, issuing indictments and subpoenas and if they can successfully get the POTUS for anything, it will be a long and very difficult process to impeach him. If they can't and don't impeach, Trump will pardon Jr, Kuchner and whomever else was in his party that might be found guilty of any crimes.

But so far, I think Russian meddling is a fact, collusion is still to be determined if it happened but this latest bombshell and the way Jr has been spinning and changing his story 3 times over is about as close as it has come. Collusion is still circumstantial, though, without solid evidence.

 

[F-22Raptor]

I wouldn't be so sure. The definition of "treason," as outlined in the Constitution reads as follows:

“Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort.”



I never said it was the end of the story. But so far, it's all "potentially" criminal. We've yet to see anything that constitutes treason.



All potentially criminal.



That's where I think people like Kaine and a couple other Dem congressmen need to slow down and not throw that word out there. It's a bit premature to think treason. Treason is a very tight statute, many lawyers have come out and said that.



By the time Muller gets around to finding anything worthy of congressional hearings, then pressing charges, issuing indictments and subpoenas and if they can successfully get the POTUS for anything, it will be a long and very difficult process to impeach him. If they can't and don't impeach, Trump will pardon Jr, Kuchner and whomever else was in his party that might be found guilty of any crimes.

But so far, I think Russian meddling is a fact, collusion is still to be determined if it happened but this latest bombshell and the way Jr has been spinning and changing his story 3 times over is about as close as it has come. Collusion is still circumstantial, though, without solid evidence.

Trump Jr. was aware that the Russian government supported Trump. Thereby, he had the intention to acquire damaging information on Clinton, information Trump Jr. knew Russia would have acquired through espionage. Trump Jr. was a participant in Russia's overall effort to subvert and corrupt the US electoral process.

I also believe it's highly unlikely Russian intelligence was unaware of this meeting. They could have blackmailed Trump Jr., Manafort, and Kushner.

Maybe "intent" is not enough to indict on treason charges, but this meeting was highly unethical, arrogant, selfish, and anti-American. Then they've been caught lying over and over on Russia. Trump and his son are frauds.

 

[F-22Raptor]

All of these men are geniuses relative to the fraud currently in office. Can't wait for the post Trump era.