US okay with Beijing monitoring Indo-Pak ties

[KSRaj]

oh please, Gpit was correct that china has ended all land dispute expect for that with India, those other ones are considered

naval/sea disputes(yes that includes islands and the like) and any idiot with 3 days schooling can find out via google or what ever.

Applesauce,
The subject of the discussion was: As per Gpit, China being 'humble' has resolved all disputes. And India being India, has not. When pointed out that China still has a few disputes open, you've seen how Gpit's been trying to wiggle out of his 'India is morally at a lower rank than China' assertion. If you have bothered to go through the discussion, I think it would be apparent.

Can you explain, disputes whether they are land/sea/air are disputes... how would that make China morally superior in comparison to India (as claimed earlier)?

and yes peaceful rise it has nothing to gain by forcing others to following ideology it itself has gone off the communist path. and we all know its loans/aid

without conditions and lack of meddling in the internal politics of others what can the west point to other than its military modernization which is badly

needed and in-fact the military grows proportionally to the economy even with western guess at its spending it is no more per percent of GDP than ~4%

officially its around 2% and considering its interest have grown to include safe passage of materials and fuel through sea lanes naval growth is perfectly

normal and its army and navy until recently is very backwards there is nothing in china that is explicitly aimed at expansionist policies and in-fact much of

it is needed anyways

and whats wrong with being in china, i visit every year and its doing just fine.

Gosh,
You got me all wrong there as I have not said that there was anything wrong in China! That would make me very similar to Gpit isnt it?
I said, lucky for China that Gpit's type no longer stays in China.

 

[grey boy 2]

Applesauce,
The subject of the discussion was: As per Gpit, China being 'humble' has resolved all disputes. And India being India, has not. When pointed out that China still has a few disputes open, you've seen how Gpit's been trying to wiggle out of his 'India is morally at a lower rank than China' assertion. If you have bothered to go through the discussion, I think it would be apparent.

Can you explain, disputes whether they are land/sea/air are disputes... how would that make China morally superior in comparison to India (as claimed earlier)?

Gosh,
You got me all wrong there as I have not said that there was anything wrong in China! That would make me very similar to Gpit isnt it?
I said, lucky for China that Gpit's type no longer stays in China.

Actually, Sea border disputes are way complicated than land border

disputes, its always easier to solve land than sea borders disputes.

And China happened to have alot of sea border with other countries

thats are far away from mainland China, so it make it more difficult

to solve those sea border disputes.

So, thats why even Japan and Korea still having sea border disputes.

Take a look at the link below, you will see whats i mean;

Territorial Disputes and State Responsibility on Land and at Sea

 

[KSRaj]

Actually, Sea border disputes are way complicated than land border

disputes, its always easier to solve land than sea borders disputes.

And China happened to have alot of sea border with other countries

thats are far away from mainland China, so it make it more difficult

to solve those sea border disputes.

So, thats why even Japan and Korea still having sea border disputes.

Take a look at the link below, you will see whats i mean;

Territorial Disputes and State Responsibility on Land and at Sea

Going by your own logic here (even though it does not prove earlier claims) :
India too has a long coast line. But it does not have as many sea border disputes as China does.

So, India is a humble nation. China is a imperealistic nation.

My above statement, does it make sense to you?

 

[grey boy 2]

Going by your own logic here (even though it does not prove earlier claims) :
India too has a long coast line. But it does not have as many sea border disputes as China does.

So, India is a humble nation. China is a imperealistic nation.

My above statement, does it make sense to you?

Your statements make no sense at all,

China have way more sea border than India,

India won't able to solve any border disputes with its neighbours.

India?s border disputes with all her neighbors - World Politics - Zimbio

China solve all land disputes with her neighbours except India.

The Hindu : News / International : Border tensions will not undermine larger relationship: China

Now, tell me which country is the imperealistic one ?

 

[paritosh]

Going by your own logic here (even though it does not prove earlier claims) :
India too has a long coast line. But it does not have as many sea border disputes as China does.

So, India is a humble nation. China is a imperealistic nation.

My above statement, does it make sense to you?

India might have a longer coastline...but we don't have as many neighbors as has China..
we have three neighbors with whom we share waters and except Lanka...we have a dispute with both Pak and BD...so 2/3 is a bad figure...

 

[KSRaj]

Your statements make no sense at all,

China have way more sea border than India,

Thats the point of the statement. It was not supposed to make sense. Didnt you get it?

Going by previous claims that a country can be said to be more "imperialistic" than another by the number of territorial disputes, then China would obviously take the crown.

Now, tell me which country is the imperealistic one ?

 

[KSRaj]

India might have a longer coastline...but we don't have as many neighbors as has China..
we have three neighbors with whom we share waters and except Lanka...we have a dispute with both Pak and BD...so 2/3 is a bad figure...

Paritosh,
I did not claim that we do not have issues. Its being claimed here that India is "imperialistic" based on the "number" of territorial disputes and no other considerations whatsoever. And if you havent noticed, I am trying to base my argument on the exact same logic. If you find any statement of mine to be "incorrect", let me know.

 

[deckingraj]

@Gpit whenever you are back from Vacation here is some news...It might change some perspective....My overall point is that both countries are mature enough not to let their pity border issues come in between larger interests of trage and peaceful co-existence...Way to go GOI - China ...I hope the same can be achieved on India-Pak border...


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Nathu La border trade crosses Rs 8.95 million in 2009

The fourth-edition of the annual border trade at Nathu La, located on the India-China frontier in Sikkim, ended today with Indian traders registering a turn over of Rs 8.95 million till October this year.

The import of goods from Tibet Autonomous Region (TAR) stood at nil as per the official figure as against Rs 1.35 lakh last year, according to Industries and Commerce department officials said here.

Indian traders had initially showed lesser enthusiasm to participate in the fourth-edition of the annual border trade at Nathu La located at 14,200 feet altitude which led to no transaction of goods from either side of the border in May and June this year.

The authorities later persuaded Indian traders, all of them from Sikkim, to engage in border trade that resulted the export turn over of Rs 8.95 million in the next four months as compared to Rs 9.6 million last year, they said.

Items like textiles, utensils, canned food, tea and vegetable oil were in great demand to the importers of TAR, sources said.

The import of goods from TAR failed to enthuse Indian traders as against the corresponding figure of Rs 1.35 lakh last year.

The historical Nathu La silk route was re-opened for bilateral trade in 2006.



The Hindu : Business / Economy : Nathu La border trade crosses Rs 8.95 million in 2009

 

[applesauce]

Applesauce,
The subject of the discussion was: As per Gpit, China being 'humble' has resolved all disputes. And India being India, has not. When pointed out that China still has a few disputes open, you've seen how Gpit's been trying to wiggle out of his 'India is morally at a lower rank than China' assertion. If you have bothered to go through the discussion, I think it would be apparent.

Can you explain, disputes whether they are land/sea/air are disputes... how would that make China morally superior in comparison to India (as claimed earlier)?


Gosh,
You got me all wrong there as I have not said that there was anything wrong in China! That would make me very similar to Gpit isnt it?
I said, lucky for China that Gpit's type no longer stays in China.

1st thats not what i was pointing out, i was merely pointing that china did infact end all land disputes i did not get in ur argument about whos being humble and whatnot.

to the second point. i do not think china is particularly humble at all but as a nation china certainly does not act like its the best and greatest(as in i didnt claim jack spit earlier, just correcting mis-information)

3rd. apologies for getting you wrong then.