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US hypersonic failure reveals a glaring weakness

US Air Force scraps ARRW hypersonic weapon after test failure while China and Russia’s superfast missile programs are reportedly on course

By GABRIEL HONRADA APRIL 1, 2023
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The failed US ARRW hypersonic weapon. Photo: Twitter

The US Air Force (USAF) has canceled its Air-Launched Rapid Response Weapon (ARRW) project, the latest blow to America’s floundering hypersonic weapons program as China and Russia develop a crucial strategic advantage.

Last month, The Warzone reported that the USAF plans to scrap the Lockheed Martin ARRW in favor of Raytheon’s Hypersonic Attack Cruise Missile (HACM) due to a string of ARRW test failures.

The report quotes USAF Assistant Secretary for Acquisition Andrew Hunter, who says that the USAF does not intend to pursue follow-on ARRW procurement. He said the two remaining prototype missiles will be used to gather hypersonic flight data but not lead to further ARRW purchases.

Late last month, South China Morning Post (SCMP) reported on the failed second flight test of the ARRW. It said that although the ARRW was successfully launched from a B-52H bomber off the coast of southern California, with its warhead successfully separating from its booster and continuing flight, the data link transmitting in-flight telemetry information failed.

SCMP says that the data link failure resulted in the loss of data that could have helped the Pentagon understand the ARRW’s flight characteristics and that the flight team behind the test is working to determine whether the failure was caused by a faulty data link or a flaw in the ARRW’s warhead.

The report also said that the failed ARRW test was the second of four planned tests that had aimed to show the weapon had early operational capability and was thus worthy of putting it into production.

The ARRW’s first test succeeded. Last December, Air & Space Forces Magazine noted that the ARRW was launched from a B-52H bomber off the coast of southern California, with the missile accelerating to hypersonic speed, separating from its booster, flying at speeds beyond Mach 5 and detonating in the target area.

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Military personnel secure the AGM-183A Air-launched Rapid Response Weapon Instrumented Measurement Vehicle 2 as it is loaded under the wing of a B-52H Stratofortress in California in 2020. Photo: US Air Force

Despite that success, the source notes that the ARRW had suffered previously from multiple launch failures.

The ARRW’s failure may be attributed to design flaws and institutional problems within US hypersonic weapons testing procedures.

Asia Times noted in July 2022 that overly complex US hypersonic weapons designs might be the reason for some failures, as the ARRW’s two-stage design may be unnecessarily complicated in its requirement of proper integration of multiple subsystems, resulting in more potential points of failure and requiring more tests for design validation.

Aggressive test schedules unsupported by planning and testing capability and the US’ rush to quickly deploy hypersonic weapons to match China and Russia may have also led to testing failures, which paradoxically has delayed their deployment time.

Poor weapons design and fabrication, poor test planning and management, gaps in preflight tests, lack of rigorous government oversight and a tendency to trivialize costly failures have also likely contributed to the rush to failure.

Air & Space Forces Magazine mentioned that the ARRW is one of the two hypersonic weapons under the USAF’s development to attack urgent, time-sensitive targets, with the other being the HACM.

In contrast to the boost-glide design of the ARRW, wherein rocket boosters propel the weapon to hypersonic speeds before its warhead glides to the target, the HACM is a scramjet-powered air-breathing system.

Air & Space Forces Magazine reported last month that the USAF is now more committed to pushing the HACM program due to the ARRW’s failure. The report also mentions some advantages of the HACM over the ARRW, such as its smaller size, which allows it to be compatible with more types of aircraft including fighters such as the F-15EX. The ARRW, on the other hand, could only be carried by bombers.

The US could also leverage AUKUS to develop the HACM and avoid the pitfalls that grounded the ARRW. Asia Times noted last month that the sharing of highly-sensitive technology such as nuclear propulsion, hypersonic engines and missile defense satellites sets AUKUS apart from other alliances and security blocs, as such only happens in the tightest of alliances.

Australia may become a key US partner in developing the HACM. Last month, Asia Times reported that the US Department of Defense (DOD) chose Australia-based Hypersonix to develop a high-speed hypersonic testbed aircraft.

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The hypersonic aircraft race is on. Concept image of the the DART AE. Photo: Hypersonix

This partnership aims to address the testing deficiencies in the US hypersonic weapons program, which appear to have led to the failure of the ARRW program.

Hypersonix’s DART AE test aircraft is powered by a hydrogen scramjet that can reach Mach 7 and is designed to test high-speed platforms, components, sensors, communications and control systems.

It also aims to support the US Hypersonic and High-Cadence Airborne Testing Capabilities (HyCAT) program, which seeks to enlist the aid of the private sector and military users to reduce the strain on US hypersonic testing facilities.

Moreover, the HACM may feature Australian hypersonic engine technology. Asia Times reported in April 2022 that Hypersonix presented its 3D-printed scramjet engine to senior US officials the previous month, with its design appearing to have several advantages over US systems.

For example, Hypersonix claims that its engine can be printed in three weeks using special alloys. The company intends to use more exotic coatings for hypersonic flight control surfaces, which endure extreme temperatures during flight.

Source:
 

US hypersonic failure reveals a glaring weakness

US Air Force scraps ARRW hypersonic weapon after test failure while China and Russia’s superfast missile programs are reportedly on course

By GABRIEL HONRADA APRIL 1, 2023
Hypersonic-Lockheed-Martin-US-Military-Missiles-.jpeg

The failed US ARRW hypersonic weapon. Photo: Twitter

The US Air Force (USAF) has canceled its Air-Launched Rapid Response Weapon (ARRW) project, the latest blow to America’s floundering hypersonic weapons program as China and Russia develop a crucial strategic advantage.

Last month, The Warzone reported that the USAF plans to scrap the Lockheed Martin ARRW in favor of Raytheon’s Hypersonic Attack Cruise Missile (HACM) due to a string of ARRW test failures.

The report quotes USAF Assistant Secretary for Acquisition Andrew Hunter, who says that the USAF does not intend to pursue follow-on ARRW procurement. He said the two remaining prototype missiles will be used to gather hypersonic flight data but not lead to further ARRW purchases.

Late last month, South China Morning Post (SCMP) reported on the failed second flight test of the ARRW. It said that although the ARRW was successfully launched from a B-52H bomber off the coast of southern California, with its warhead successfully separating from its booster and continuing flight, the data link transmitting in-flight telemetry information failed.

SCMP says that the data link failure resulted in the loss of data that could have helped the Pentagon understand the ARRW’s flight characteristics and that the flight team behind the test is working to determine whether the failure was caused by a faulty data link or a flaw in the ARRW’s warhead.

The report also said that the failed ARRW test was the second of four planned tests that had aimed to show the weapon had early operational capability and was thus worthy of putting it into production.

The ARRW’s first test succeeded. Last December, Air & Space Forces Magazine noted that the ARRW was launched from a B-52H bomber off the coast of southern California, with the missile accelerating to hypersonic speed, separating from its booster, flying at speeds beyond Mach 5 and detonating in the target area.

US-Hypersonic-Weapon-Lockheed-Martin.jpg

Military personnel secure the AGM-183A Air-launched Rapid Response Weapon Instrumented Measurement Vehicle 2 as it is loaded under the wing of a B-52H Stratofortress in California in 2020. Photo: US Air Force

Despite that success, the source notes that the ARRW had suffered previously from multiple launch failures.

The ARRW’s failure may be attributed to design flaws and institutional problems within US hypersonic weapons testing procedures.

Asia Times noted in July 2022 that overly complex US hypersonic weapons designs might be the reason for some failures, as the ARRW’s two-stage design may be unnecessarily complicated in its requirement of proper integration of multiple subsystems, resulting in more potential points of failure and requiring more tests for design validation.

Aggressive test schedules unsupported by planning and testing capability and the US’ rush to quickly deploy hypersonic weapons to match China and Russia may have also led to testing failures, which paradoxically has delayed their deployment time.

Poor weapons design and fabrication, poor test planning and management, gaps in preflight tests, lack of rigorous government oversight and a tendency to trivialize costly failures have also likely contributed to the rush to failure.

Air & Space Forces Magazine mentioned that the ARRW is one of the two hypersonic weapons under the USAF’s development to attack urgent, time-sensitive targets, with the other being the HACM.

In contrast to the boost-glide design of the ARRW, wherein rocket boosters propel the weapon to hypersonic speeds before its warhead glides to the target, the HACM is a scramjet-powered air-breathing system.

Air & Space Forces Magazine reported last month that the USAF is now more committed to pushing the HACM program due to the ARRW’s failure. The report also mentions some advantages of the HACM over the ARRW, such as its smaller size, which allows it to be compatible with more types of aircraft including fighters such as the F-15EX. The ARRW, on the other hand, could only be carried by bombers.

The US could also leverage AUKUS to develop the HACM and avoid the pitfalls that grounded the ARRW. Asia Times noted last month that the sharing of highly-sensitive technology such as nuclear propulsion, hypersonic engines and missile defense satellites sets AUKUS apart from other alliances and security blocs, as such only happens in the tightest of alliances.

Australia may become a key US partner in developing the HACM. Last month, Asia Times reported that the US Department of Defense (DOD) chose Australia-based Hypersonix to develop a high-speed hypersonic testbed aircraft.

Hypersonix.jpeg

The hypersonic aircraft race is on. Concept image of the the DART AE. Photo: Hypersonix

This partnership aims to address the testing deficiencies in the US hypersonic weapons program, which appear to have led to the failure of the ARRW program.

Hypersonix’s DART AE test aircraft is powered by a hydrogen scramjet that can reach Mach 7 and is designed to test high-speed platforms, components, sensors, communications and control systems.

It also aims to support the US Hypersonic and High-Cadence Airborne Testing Capabilities (HyCAT) program, which seeks to enlist the aid of the private sector and military users to reduce the strain on US hypersonic testing facilities.

Moreover, the HACM may feature Australian hypersonic engine technology. Asia Times reported in April 2022 that Hypersonix presented its 3D-printed scramjet engine to senior US officials the previous month, with its design appearing to have several advantages over US systems.

For example, Hypersonix claims that its engine can be printed in three weeks using special alloys. The company intends to use more exotic coatings for hypersonic flight control surfaces, which endure extreme temperatures during flight.
Where is the source???
 
US still don't get it. These projects aint possible without improved wind tunnels that China has and US don't.
 
US still don't get it. These projects aint possible without improved wind tunnels that China has and US don't.

The Army’s LRHW is going operational in the fall, and the Air Force hypersonic cruise missile programs have been very successful.
 
The Army’s LRHW is going operational in the fall, and the Air Force hypersonic cruise missile programs have been very successful.
So far I haven't heard of any reports of live fire tests of LRHW hitting targets.
 
ARRW has been on the chopping block for awhile now as Air Force HCM programs had multiple successful flights.

LRHW is an Army/Navy program, with launchers and infrastructure already delivered to the Army, and launcher installation set to start in October on the Zumwalt. 65 missiles are set to be purchased over the next 5 years. Both services are going full steam ahead on LRHW.
 
Weakness ? Bruh, just read about the Ohio Class Submarine and its fire power...
 
Weakness ? Bruh, just read about the Ohio Class Submarine and its fire power...


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Not that kind of shit again please.

Go EDUCATE YOURSELF

CHINA MIGHT WELL BE THE ONLY COUNTRY WITH IMMEDIATELY DEPLOYABLE USABLE THERMO NUKES
AND IF USA WANT TO USE EVEN ONE NUKE :D


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Sailing their carriers up and down in phony FONOPs.

And a great game to bully China for the fun of it.

And screaming if their carriers are touched, China will be in a big world of hurting.

As if Murica the only one with nukes and happy to toss them about like confetti.


And please do not talk of nukes. China might well be the only country
with fully functional H Bombs
Chinese H Bombs are done to the YuMing configuration requiring very little maintenance.
Muricans do their H bombs to the Ulam Teller configuration needing lots of maintenances.

Each warhead needs to have about 200 milligrams of fresh tritium added every year. Here’s a pic showing W80s having their gas changed.

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How many Murican H Bombs can go kaboom immediately? Not many.


When China was still almost in stone age condition in 1960s, China still developed the Hydrogen Bomb 3.3 Mtons just 32 months in June 1967 after China first fission bomb. China was using teams of Chinese working away at abacus as they had no computers or even electronic calculators then.

We all know China is a lot more advanced since the mid 60s.

US intelligence projection made late in the 1960s that China would have 435 nuclear weapons by 1973.
Karber’s report mentioned that “PRC data in 1995 gave the figure at 2,350.”

We all know China is a lot more advanced since 1995.

Why You Should Fear China's Nuclear Weapons

Underground Great Wall of China - Wikipedia

And remember the DF5s and DF31AG as well. About 100 or more of them, mirving 10 nukes or more.
China has at least three brigades of DF-5 missiles. Assuming all three brigades have been modernized, that's 360 thermonuclear warheads with a half-megaton on each warhead.
3 brigades DF-5B ICBM x 12 missiles per brigade x 10 MIRVs per missile = 360 thermonuclear warheads carried on DF-5B ICBMs



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DF-5B got throw weight of 5,000 kgs
In 2017, China successfully completed tests of DF-5C. Presumably with greater throw weight and greater accuracy in targetting.

7 brigades DF-31A ICBM (since 2007 introduction and adding one brigade per year) x 12 missiles per brigade x 3 MIRVs = 252 thermonuclear warheads carried on DF-31A ICBMs (assuming NO RELOAD missile per TEL; if you assume ONE reload missile per TEL then you double the number of warheads to 504 thermonuclear warheads).

Since then, China tested and got operational DF31AG and DF31B. Obviously able to throw more warheads than the DF31A. The DF31s are solid fuel and can fire within 3 to 5 minutes.

And the H-6K bombers. H-6K can carry up to six YJ-12 and 6-7 ALCMs; and air launched missiles (CH-AS-X-13)
As at 2015, there are 15 numbers of H-6Ks, and 150 numbers of assorted H-6s.
Using just H-6Ks, there will be need for 15X10 , or 150 thermonuclear bombs.
2015 is 5 years ago. You can be sure there will be even more numbers of H-6K, and even more advanced bombers being build by China.

DF-41 - Wikipedia

The Dong Feng 41 (CSS-X-10) is a road- and rail-mobile intercontinental ballistic missile (ICBM). The DF-41 completed all testing stages and deployed in the People’s Republic of China (PRC) since 2017. It is estimated to have an operational range of 12,000 to 15,000 km, which would make it the longest range missile in operation. It will likely have a top speed of Mach 25 and will be capable of delivering up to 10 MIRVed warheads. Throw weight of DF-41 is 2,500 kg.

The DF-41 is a three-stage solid-fueled intercontinental ballistic missile reported to have a maximum range of up to 15,000 kilometers (more than 9320 miles) and a top speed of Mach 25 (19,030 mph). It is said to be capable of carrying up to 10 multiple independently targetable reentry vehicle (MIRVs). Its launch preparation time is estimated to be between 3 to 5 minutes.

This would make the DF-41 the world's longest range missile, surpassing the range of the US LGM-30 Minuteman which has a reported range of 13,000 km. Throw weight of LGM-30 is only 1000kg or just 3 numbers of 170kton nukes. USA UGM-133 Trident II throw weight is only 2,800 kg.



Four brigades of DF-41 ICBMs (Heilongjiang, Henan, Xinjiang, and Tibet Provinces) with one re-load per DF-41 TEL yields 96 total DF-41 ICBMs.
How many brigades of DF-41 since 2017 number of 4 brigades?
6 Brigades or 8 Brigades?


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Reported DF-41 Deployment: China 'Responding to US Missile Defense in Asia'
Expert: DF-41 among most advanced missiles in the world


If China got only 260 thermonukes like what everyone is saying and hoping, the surplus warheads will be delivering dim sum and tea bags and cleaned pressed laundry from Chinese laundrymen.

Please remember DF-41 got a very big brother coming up as well in case you think DF-41 not worthy enough to deliver dim sum and tea bags and cleaned laundry.
Russia’s RS-28 “Sarmat” ten-ton payload, rated as the most dangerous ICBM . Reportedly it may carry up to fifteen 350 kiloton warheads, or up to twenty-four of the new “Avangard” nuclear-armed Hypersonic Glide Vehicle (HGV) warheads. Sarmat will be dwarfed by Chinese new missile with even larger twenty-ton payload. That will be solid-fuel space-launch vehicle (SLV), and could form the basis for what might become the world’s largest “mobile” ICBM.

The Next China Military Threat: The World's Biggest Mobile ICBM?


SSBNs
Type 094 Jin Class SSBN


Currently 6 of type 094 but projected to be 8 in years to come.
Carrying 12 numbers of JL-2, mirving 3–4 thermonuclear warheads.
Or 288 nuclear warheads

Type 096 Tang Class SSBN
This is similar to Ohio Class

Carrying 24 JL-3 missiles , each mirving 5–7 warheads.
Currently, 6 numbers of 096 SSBNs are being build simultaneously.
Using 6x24x5, we have 720 thermonuclear warheads.

Or at least 1000 nukes can be delivered by China.
Or the warheads delivered are empty. Or used to deliver dim sums, General Tso chicken, wulung tea bags and cleaned laundry by Chink laundrymen, express delivery.

If China is ever turned into a nuclear wasteland, those that send nukes into China will be nuked into glowing and molten multicolored wasteland.

China promised never to use the first nuke. But if just one nuke land on China or her forces, ALL THE USA BASES FROM EUROPE, DIEGO GARCIA , SINGAPORE . JAPAN AND USA HERSELF WILL BE SEAS AND LAKES OF MOLTEN MULTI COLOR GLASS.
None of the USA carriers will be spared. The carriers will be taken out with nukes even if the carriers hide in Frisco Bay or in the Atlantic Ocean or any other ocean.


And as demonstrated so clearly in KSA a few days ago, the Aegis and Patriot systems defending Saudi a joke as the Aegis and Patriot cannot even detect a few sub Mach cruise missiles not to talk of taking them down. Even to now, no one sure where those came from and who flown them. Despite overlapping coverage of those Patriot and Aegis systems.
New sales pitch? US makes the world’s ‘finest’ anti-air systems, but sometimes they just don’t work, Pompeo explains
Saudi air defenses like Patriot & Aegis don’t match their advertised properties, unfit for real combat – Russian Army (MAP)

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How will the Patriot systems in USA defend against ICBMs coming in at speed of Mach 25 when they cannot even detect missiles at sub Mach or even know where the missiles came from despite overlapping coverage?

Allies of the country that nuke China will not go unpunished as well. Whether they could not stop USA or do not want to stop USA or USA do not want to listen to them will be irrelevant to China.
A nuked China will be very very weak. And China recalled the days where the British and French and Japan and USA came to carve her up when China was weak.
China will not allow that to happen again. China will ensure those countries will be weaker than a nuked China, or exist only in name after a nuked China


So please let peace prevail and it is irrelevant whether you think China only got 260 nukes
The lucky ones will be those that die in the first micro second.
Those still alive a year later will wish they gone at the very beginning.

And why the war fought or even started, no one will give a flying **** as to the reasons.


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Even so, China never ever threatened to use nukes. Other than if nuke used on China, China will retaliate and use nukes as well.

So please be peaceful and respectful and more courtesy, and no more phony FONOPs and playing games of who will blink with China with phony FONOPs. Do not play with fire regarding Taiwan. AND DO NOT THREATEN TO NUKE CHINA.


Similar to that and not behind pay wall https://eurasiantimes.com/pioneered-by-the-us-china-races-ahead-of-its-arch-rival/


As to the power of the Chinese world's first all-anion anion salt successfully synthesized, Chinese might be using this as starter of CHinese H bomb instead of fission device as used previously.

No need for plutonium or U235 to kick start the H fusion.:yay:

Giving Murican lots and lots of f*cking nightmares :rofl:

AND MURICA CANNOT USE HOTLINE TO TALK TO CHINA AS GENERAL LI UNDER SANCTION, AND FOR THAT MATTER, CHINESE GENERAL DO NOT EVEN WISH TO TALK TO MURICA. AFTER ALL MURICA DISHONORABLE AND FULL OF DECEIT AND LIES AND AGREEMENT WITH MURICA NOT WORTH THE INK USED TO SIGN ANY AGREEMENT
https://www.financialexpress.com/wo...nctioned-general-as-defence-minister/3006459/ 😆😆😆🤣🤣🤣💪💪💪🇨🇳🇨🇳🇨🇳👏👏👏👍👍👍 China appoints US-sanctioned General as Defence Minister
China on Sunday appointed a US-sanctioned army general as its new Defence Minister, displaying scant regard for Washington’s ban on its military personnel.
March 12, 2023 18:52 IST

China on Sunday appointed a US-sanctioned army general as its new Defence Minister, displaying scant regard for Washington’s ban on its military personnel.

Gen. Li Shangfu, a Chinese aerospace engineer and General of the People’s Liberation Army (PLA), was sanctioned by the US in 2018 for the purchase of Russian Sukhoi Su-35 fighter jets and S-400 surface-to-air missiles by China‘s Equipment Development Department (EDD) in violation of the US sanctions on Russia.

The US sanctioned both the EDD and its then director Gen Li.

On Sunday, Gen Li was confirmed as the new Defence Minister by China’s rubber-stamp parliament, the National People’s Congress (CPC). He will succeed Gen Wei Fenghe.

Gen Li was appointed along with a new set of cabinet ministers for various ministries as part of change of the Chinese government officials every 10 years.

On Saturday, Gen Li was appointed as a member of the Central Military Commission (CMC) – the high command of the Chinese military headed by President Xi Jinping.

The US Department of Defence’s 2022 China Military Report described Gen Li as the general officer who offers “technical expertise on military modernisation on space issues” to Xi.

“Li’s rise reflects the unprecedented development of China’s space enterprise since Xi Jinping took power in 2012,” according to the Diplomat magazine.

“It also signals to the world that, against the backdrop of increasingly intensified China-US technological competition, China will continue to prioritize aerospace in its defence modernisation agenda during Xi’s third term and beyond,” it said.

“General Li Shangfu’s appointment represents more consistency in the PLA senior leadership than change. Like Wei Fenghe, who also rose within the PLA under Xi’s tenure, Li will continue to be a steward of China’s defence modernization programs, which have received sustained and continuous support of Chinese leaders from Jiang Zemin to Xi Jinping. Moreover, as the highest-ranking state councilor and a CMC member, Li will enjoy direct access to Xi and serve as his key military advisor,” it said.
😆😆😆🤣🤣🤣 🥳🥳🥳🤡🤡🤡 Now Chinese public just see US politicians as entertaining clowns


AND THOSE WHITES OR NON WHITES STANDING IN AWE TO WHAT THEY PERCEIVED OF MURICA NUCLEAR MIGHT AS DELUDED ENTERTAINING DOGGIES AND CLOWNS BROWN NOSING THEMSELVES SILLY ON MURICA
 
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Not that kind of shit again please.

Go EDUCATE YOURSELF

CHINA MIGHT WELL BE THE ONLY COUNTRY WITH IMMEDIATELY DEPLOYABLE USABLE THERMO NUKES
AND IF USA WANT TO USE EVEN ONE NUKE :D


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Sailing their carriers up and down in phony FONOPs.

And a great game to bully China for the fun of it.

And screaming if their carriers are touched, China will be in a big world of hurting.

As if Murica the only one with nukes and happy to toss them about like confetti.


And please do not talk of nukes. China might well be the only country
with fully functional H Bombs
Chinese H Bombs are done to the YuMing configuration requiring very little maintenance.
Muricans do their H bombs to the Ulam Teller configuration needing lots of maintenances.

Each warhead needs to have about 200 milligrams of fresh tritium added every year. Here’s a pic showing W80s having their gas changed.

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How many Murican H Bombs can go kaboom immediately? Not many.


When China was still almost in stone age condition in 1960s, China still developed the Hydrogen Bomb 3.3 Mtons just 32 months in June 1967 after China first fission bomb. China was using teams of Chinese working away at abacus as they had no computers or even electronic calculators then.

We all know China is a lot more advanced since the mid 60s.

US intelligence projection made late in the 1960s that China would have 435 nuclear weapons by 1973.
Karber’s report mentioned that “PRC data in 1995 gave the figure at 2,350.”

We all know China is a lot more advanced since 1995.

Why You Should Fear China's Nuclear Weapons

Underground Great Wall of China - Wikipedia

And remember the DF5s and DF31AG as well. About 100 or more of them, mirving 10 nukes or more.
China has at least three brigades of DF-5 missiles. Assuming all three brigades have been modernized, that's 360 thermonuclear warheads with a half-megaton on each warhead.
3 brigades DF-5B ICBM x 12 missiles per brigade x 10 MIRVs per missile = 360 thermonuclear warheads carried on DF-5B ICBMs



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DF-5B got throw weight of 5,000 kgs
In 2017, China successfully completed tests of DF-5C. Presumably with greater throw weight and greater accuracy in targetting.

7 brigades DF-31A ICBM (since 2007 introduction and adding one brigade per year) x 12 missiles per brigade x 3 MIRVs = 252 thermonuclear warheads carried on DF-31A ICBMs (assuming NO RELOAD missile per TEL; if you assume ONE reload missile per TEL then you double the number of warheads to 504 thermonuclear warheads).

Since then, China tested and got operational DF31AG and DF31B. Obviously able to throw more warheads than the DF31A. The DF31s are solid fuel and can fire within 3 to 5 minutes.

And the H-6K bombers. H-6K can carry up to six YJ-12 and 6-7 ALCMs; and air launched missiles (CH-AS-X-13)
As at 2015, there are 15 numbers of H-6Ks, and 150 numbers of assorted H-6s.
Using just H-6Ks, there will be need for 15X10 , or 150 thermonuclear bombs.
2015 is 5 years ago. You can be sure there will be even more numbers of H-6K, and even more advanced bombers being build by China.

DF-41 - Wikipedia

The Dong Feng 41 (CSS-X-10) is a road- and rail-mobile intercontinental ballistic missile (ICBM). The DF-41 completed all testing stages and deployed in the People’s Republic of China (PRC) since 2017. It is estimated to have an operational range of 12,000 to 15,000 km, which would make it the longest range missile in operation. It will likely have a top speed of Mach 25 and will be capable of delivering up to 10 MIRVed warheads. Throw weight of DF-41 is 2,500 kg.

The DF-41 is a three-stage solid-fueled intercontinental ballistic missile reported to have a maximum range of up to 15,000 kilometers (more than 9320 miles) and a top speed of Mach 25 (19,030 mph). It is said to be capable of carrying up to 10 multiple independently targetable reentry vehicle (MIRVs). Its launch preparation time is estimated to be between 3 to 5 minutes.

This would make the DF-41 the world's longest range missile, surpassing the range of the US LGM-30 Minuteman which has a reported range of 13,000 km. Throw weight of LGM-30 is only 1000kg or just 3 numbers of 170kton nukes. USA UGM-133 Trident II throw weight is only 2,800 kg.



Four brigades of DF-41 ICBMs (Heilongjiang, Henan, Xinjiang, and Tibet Provinces) with one re-load per DF-41 TEL yields 96 total DF-41 ICBMs.
How many brigades of DF-41 since 2017 number of 4 brigades?
6 Brigades or 8 Brigades?


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Reported DF-41 Deployment: China 'Responding to US Missile Defense in Asia'
Expert: DF-41 among most advanced missiles in the world


If China got only 260 thermonukes like what everyone is saying and hoping, the surplus warheads will be delivering dim sum and tea bags and cleaned pressed laundry from Chinese laundrymen.

Please remember DF-41 got a very big brother coming up as well in case you think DF-41 not worthy enough to deliver dim sum and tea bags and cleaned laundry.
Russia’s RS-28 “Sarmat” ten-ton payload, rated as the most dangerous ICBM . Reportedly it may carry up to fifteen 350 kiloton warheads, or up to twenty-four of the new “Avangard” nuclear-armed Hypersonic Glide Vehicle (HGV) warheads. Sarmat will be dwarfed by Chinese new missile with even larger twenty-ton payload. That will be solid-fuel space-launch vehicle (SLV), and could form the basis for what might become the world’s largest “mobile” ICBM.

The Next China Military Threat: The World's Biggest Mobile ICBM?


SSBNs
Type 094 Jin Class SSBN


Currently 6 of type 094 but projected to be 8 in years to come.
Carrying 12 numbers of JL-2, mirving 3–4 thermonuclear warheads.
Or 288 nuclear warheads

Type 096 Tang Class SSBN
This is similar to Ohio Class

Carrying 24 JL-3 missiles , each mirving 5–7 warheads.
Currently, 6 numbers of 096 SSBNs are being build simultaneously.
Using 6x24x5, we have 720 thermonuclear warheads.

Or at least 1000 nukes can be delivered by China.
Or the warheads delivered are empty. Or used to deliver dim sums, General Tso chicken, wulung tea bags and cleaned laundry by Chink laundrymen, express delivery.

If China is ever turned into a nuclear wasteland, those that send nukes into China will be nuked into glowing and molten multicolored wasteland.

China promised never to use the first nuke. But if just one nuke land on China or her forces, ALL THE USA BASES FROM EUROPE, DIEGO GARCIA , SINGAPORE . JAPAN AND USA HERSELF WILL BE SEAS AND LAKES OF MOLTEN MULTI COLOR GLASS.
None of the USA carriers will be spared. The carriers will be taken out with nukes even if the carriers hide in Frisco Bay or in the Atlantic Ocean or any other ocean.


And as demonstrated so clearly in KSA a few days ago, the Aegis and Patriot systems defending Saudi a joke as the Aegis and Patriot cannot even detect a few sub Mach cruise missiles not to talk of taking them down. Even to now, no one sure where those came from and who flown them. Despite overlapping coverage of those Patriot and Aegis systems.
New sales pitch? US makes the world’s ‘finest’ anti-air systems, but sometimes they just don’t work, Pompeo explains
Saudi air defenses like Patriot & Aegis don’t match their advertised properties, unfit for real combat – Russian Army (MAP)

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How will the Patriot systems in USA defend against ICBMs coming in at speed of Mach 25 when they cannot even detect missiles at sub Mach or even know where the missiles came from despite overlapping coverage?

Allies of the country that nuke China will not go unpunished as well. Whether they could not stop USA or do not want to stop USA or USA do not want to listen to them will be irrelevant to China.
A nuked China will be very very weak. And China recalled the days where the British and French and Japan and USA came to carve her up when China was weak.
China will not allow that to happen again. China will ensure those countries will be weaker than a nuked China, or exist only in name after a nuked China


So please let peace prevail and it is irrelevant whether you think China only got 260 nukes
The lucky ones will be those that die in the first micro second.
Those still alive a year later will wish they gone at the very beginning.

And why the war fought or even started, no one will give a flying **** as to the reasons.


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Even so, China never ever threatened to use nukes. Other than if nuke used on China, China will retaliate and use nukes as well.

So please be peaceful and respectful and more courtesy, and no more phony FONOPs and playing games of who will blink with China with phony FONOPs. Do not play with fire regarding Taiwan. AND DO NOT THREATEN TO NUKE CHINA.


Similar to that and not behind pay wall https://eurasiantimes.com/pioneered-by-the-us-china-races-ahead-of-its-arch-rival/


As to the power of the Chinese world's first all-anion anion salt successfully synthesized, Chinese might be using this as starter of CHinese H bomb instead of fission device as used previously.

No need for plutonium or U235 to kick start the H fusion.:yay:

Giving Murican lots and lots of f*cking nightmares :rofl:

AND MURICA CANNOT USE HOTLINE TO TALK TO CHINA AS GENERAL LI UNDER SANCTION, AND FOR THAT MATTER, CHINESE GENERAL DO NOT EVEN WISH TO TALK TO MURICA. AFTER ALL MURICA DISHONORABLE AND FULL OF DECEIT AND LIES AND AGREEMENT WITH MURICA NOT WORTH THE INK USED TO SIGN ANY AGREEMENT
https://www.financialexpress.com/wo...nctioned-general-as-defence-minister/3006459/ 😆😆😆🤣🤣🤣💪💪💪🇨🇳🇨🇳🇨🇳👏👏👏👍👍👍 China appoints US-sanctioned General as Defence Minister
China on Sunday appointed a US-sanctioned army general as its new Defence Minister, displaying scant regard for Washington’s ban on its military personnel.
March 12, 2023 18:52 IST

China on Sunday appointed a US-sanctioned army general as its new Defence Minister, displaying scant regard for Washington’s ban on its military personnel.

Gen. Li Shangfu, a Chinese aerospace engineer and General of the People’s Liberation Army (PLA), was sanctioned by the US in 2018 for the purchase of Russian Sukhoi Su-35 fighter jets and S-400 surface-to-air missiles by China‘s Equipment Development Department (EDD) in violation of the US sanctions on Russia.

The US sanctioned both the EDD and its then director Gen Li.

On Sunday, Gen Li was confirmed as the new Defence Minister by China’s rubber-stamp parliament, the National People’s Congress (CPC). He will succeed Gen Wei Fenghe.

Gen Li was appointed along with a new set of cabinet ministers for various ministries as part of change of the Chinese government officials every 10 years.

On Saturday, Gen Li was appointed as a member of the Central Military Commission (CMC) – the high command of the Chinese military headed by President Xi Jinping.

The US Department of Defence’s 2022 China Military Report described Gen Li as the general officer who offers “technical expertise on military modernisation on space issues” to Xi.

“Li’s rise reflects the unprecedented development of China’s space enterprise since Xi Jinping took power in 2012,” according to the Diplomat magazine.

“It also signals to the world that, against the backdrop of increasingly intensified China-US technological competition, China will continue to prioritize aerospace in its defence modernisation agenda during Xi’s third term and beyond,” it said.

“General Li Shangfu’s appointment represents more consistency in the PLA senior leadership than change. Like Wei Fenghe, who also rose within the PLA under Xi’s tenure, Li will continue to be a steward of China’s defence modernization programs, which have received sustained and continuous support of Chinese leaders from Jiang Zemin to Xi Jinping. Moreover, as the highest-ranking state councilor and a CMC member, Li will enjoy direct access to Xi and serve as his key military advisor,” it said.
😆😆😆🤣🤣🤣 🥳🥳🥳🤡🤡🤡 Now Chinese public just see US politicians as entertaining clowns


AND THOSE WHITES OR NON WHITES STANDING IN AWE TO WHAT THEY PERCEIVED OF MURICA NUCLEAR MIGHT AS DELUDED ENTERTAINING DOGGIES AND CLOWNS BROWN NOSING THEMSELVES SILLY ON MURICA
You're troll nothing else
 
You're troll nothing else

SINCERE ATTEMPT TO EDUCATE THE UNEDUCATABLE IS FUTILE, BUT NOT TROLLING


this not true?? :enjoy:

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Each warhead needs to have about 200 milligrams of fresh tritium added every year. Here’s a pic showing W80s having their gas changed.

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If China got only 260 thermonukes like what everyone is saying and hoping, the surplus warheads will be delivering dim sum and tea bags and cleaned pressed laundry from Chinese laundrymen.

Please remember DF-41 got a very big brother coming up as well in case you think DF-41 not worthy enough to deliver dim sum and tea bags and cleaned laundry.
Russia’s RS-28 “Sarmat” ten-ton payload, rated as the most dangerous ICBM . Reportedly it may carry up to fifteen 350 kiloton warheads, or up to twenty-four of the new “Avangard” nuclear-armed Hypersonic Glide Vehicle (HGV) warheads. Sarmat will be dwarfed by Chinese new missile with even larger twenty-ton payload. That will be solid-fuel space-launch vehicle (SLV), and could form the basis for what might become the world’s largest “mobile” ICBM.

The Next China Military Threat: The World's Biggest Mobile ICBM?

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FURTHER EDUCATION FOR ALL IT IS WORTH

THAT CHINESE SLV KZ-21 IS NOW FULLY OPERATIONAL AND IN USE AS SLV
REMEMBER CHINESE INVENTED GUNPOWDER TO USE AS FIREWORKS FOR AMUSEMENT, AND THEN TURNED THAT
TO GUNS AND BOMBS ONLY LATER ON.

LET THE SLV REMAIN AS SLV AND NOT TO DELIVER DIM SUM AND TEA BAGS AND GENERAL TSO SWEET SOUR CHICKEN AND CLEANED LAUNDRY

AND KZ-31 IS COMING ON THE WAY.
 
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