US financing for "parrot turban" cult in Pakistan

[somebozo]

Looks like US hands are clean nowhere in supporting, financing and training terrorists.

US aided Pakistan group which supported extremists
US aided Pakistan group which supported extremists - Arab News

By CHRIS BRUMMITT | AP
Published: Jan 11, 2012 17:30 Updated: Jan 11, 2012 17:30

ISLAMABAD: The US gave money to a Pakistani group that organized anti-Taleban rallies, but which later demonstrated in support of an extremist who killed a leading liberal politician, the US Embassy in Pakistan said Wednesday.

The grant highlights the difficulties facing Washington as it seeks partners to support religious moderation in Pakistan. Last month, The Associated Press reported that the US Embassy had created a counter-extremism unit to perform that mission.

US government website Usaspending.gov shows that the group, the Ittehad Council, received $36,607 from Washington in 2009.

A US diplomat said that the embassy had given money to the group to organize the rallies, but that it had since changed direction and leadership. He said it was a one-off grant, and wouldn’t be repeated. He didn’t give his name because he wasn’t authorized to speak about the issue on the record.

The grant was first reported by the Council of Foreign Relations on its website.

The Ittehad council was formed in 2009 to counter extremism. It groups politicians and clerics from Pakistan’s traditionalist Barelvi Muslim movement, often referred to as theological moderates in the Pakistani context.

The American money was used to organize nationwide rallies against militants and suicide bombings, the embassy official said. The demonstrations received widespread media coverage, and were some of the first against extremism in the country.

The rhetoric at the rallies was mostly focused on opposing militant attacks on shrines.

In 2011 and also this month, the council led demonstrations in support of the killer of Salman Taseer, a governor who was killed a year ago for his criticism of anti-blasphemy laws used to persecute religious minorities. The displays have appalled Pakistani liberals and stoked international fears that the country is buckling under the weight of extremism.

Taseer’s assassin, Mumtaz Qadri, is a Barelvi. He claimed he acted to defend the honor of the prophet Muhammad, a cause that is especially dear to Barelvis.

At its rallies, the group maintains its criticism of the Taleban even as it supports Qadri — a seemingly contradictory stance that suggests its leaders may be more interested in harnessing the political support and street power of Barelvis than in genuinely countering militancy.

Two leading members of the council who have been with the group from the beginning of its existence denied receiving any American funds. The apparent discrepancy could be explained by lack of transparency within the organization. However, given the current anti-American climate, owning up to receiving funds from the United States would invite criticism.

“This propaganda is being unleashed against us because we are strongly opposed to Western democracy and American policies in the region and in the world,” said Sahibzada Fazal Karim, the head of the council, before reiterating the group’s support for Qadri.

“We are against extremism, but we support Qadri because he did a right thing,” he said.

© 2010 Arab News

 

[Mughal1]

Why does rich and powerful elite fund mullahs? The answer is very simpe because it serves their purpose to divide people on basis of imperialism and priesthood. Rich and powerful want to rule people through controlling land and its resources as well as means of production and distribution. So long as these people can control political and economic interests then all people are under their thumb because if you control anyone's livelihood you control him ie he is your slave and you are his master.

Mullahs control people mentally by telling them porky pies in the name of God keeping them ignorant and confused with mass backing of media. So by conditioning people mentally the way you want you can treat them like your guard dogs or hunting dogs or slave labour.

So long as people keep on producing nonsense interpretations of divine scriptures and they are massively funded to spread them who can stop use and abuse of masses in the name of whatever?

Would anyone listen to odd voice in the wilderness no matter how reasonable?


SURAH 1 AL FATIHA=The Divine Proclamation for the mankind

1) Proclaim! In the name of Allah, the Gracious, the Merciful,

2) That sovereignty belongs to Allah alone because He is the creator and the sustainer of the kingdoms of the universe,

3) The gracious, the merciful,

4) The provider of the constitution for mankind to live by.

5) Therefore O mankind declare that only to Your constitution we commit and through its help we will seek your sustenance,

6) Therefore show us thereby the firmly founded way to peace and prosperity,

7) The way of those whom you blessed with peace and prosperity, of those whom you did not let suffer indignation because they went not away from Your constitution.




Surah 2 AL BAQARAH= The Conflicts and Resolutions

Proclaim, in the name of Allah the Gracious the Merciful.

1) ALIF LAAM MEEM.

2) This is the constitution no doubt for peace and prosperity of mankind, in which is guidance for people who wish to protect humanity against harm and destruction.

3) People who would commit to working for peace and prosperity in the land for the better future of mankind by means of implementing the divine program in order to open up the opportunities for the benefit of all by using all the ways and means of sustenance We have provided for them.

4) So those who commit to working for peace according to that which is revealed to you and according to that which was revealed before you they are sure about the promised outcome of their actions.

5) Such are the ones who are on clear guidance from their Lord and these are the ones who will attain peace and prosperity due to being free from inflicting harm and destruction upon each other.

6)As for those in the land who commit themselves to inflicting harm and destruction on mankind, it is same for them that you warn them about the destructive results of their thoughts and actions or you warn them not they will not commit to working for peace and prosperity of mankind.

7) Allah finds their arrogance covering up their ability to think about peace and their ability of responding to call of peace as well as their ability to see the need for peace therefore they will end up in great suffering in due course as a result of their own actions.

8) Among the mankind there are people who claim, we are committed to working for peace and prosperity according to constitution of Allah for the good end result for the mankind but in actual fact they are not committed to working for peace and prosperity at all as is obvious from the results of their own actions.

9) They just make attempts at deceiving masses regarding constitution of Allah as well as those who are really committed to working for peace, though in actual fact they deceive none but themselves and their own people but they realise it not.

10) In their minds is destructive ambition to dominate others and Allah finds their this desire increasing rivalry therefore the result of their actions is grievous suffering because they deny to others benefits of working according to the divine constitution.

11) When it is said to them, do not cause wars in the land they say, surely we are only trying to create peace.

12) Nay, they are creators of wars for sure as is evident from the result of their actions yet they admit it not.

13) When it is said to them, give up harmful and destructive ambitions for exploiting humanity and commit to working for peace like other people who are committed to working for peace they say, shall we commit to working for peace like the foolish. Of course, it is they who are foolish not realising the benefits of living according to the divine constitution because they do not really want to know about it.

14) However when they meet those who are committed to working for peace they tell them, we too are committed to working for peace but when they are in private with their fellow conspirators against those who are committed to working for peace they tell them, we are indeed with you, we were surely pretending to be with those who are committed to working for peace.

15) Surely in time Allah will expose their deceptions by results of their own actions and let them wander in their confusion like the ones blind or lost in darkness .

16) These are people who have chosen to live in a harmful way instead of living according to divine constitution so their choice is not going to benefit them because they have refused to be guided.

17) The likeness of their ability to choose and Our provision of guidance for them is like that of a person who lights up a fire for them to see but when it lightens up all around it, Allah lets them go by their own sight thereby letting them remain in the darkness because they refuse to see.

18) They act like deaf, dumb and blind due to arrogance that is how they refuse to turn to guidance.

19) Or the likeness of behaviour of some of them to Our guidance is like that of a people to the huge rainstorm from sky with periods of darkness, thunder and lightning. They press their fingers in their ears due to thunderclap for fear of death yet pay no attention to laws of Allah that are in action all around the opposers of His constitution.

20) The lightning almost snatches away their sight of them. As often as it flashes for them they walk due to it but when it darkens for them they stand still. Had Allah meant to make them deaf and blind, He could have taken away their sense of hearing and their sense of sight. Indeed! Allah has set up laws for all things to work accordingly including mankind.

21) So O you the people, live according to the constitution of your lord who has furnished you with ability of good conduct towards each other like those before you so that you could become free of harmful and destructive ways of existence.

22 ) Who brought about for you the earth like a floor and the heaven like a canopy and sent down from the heaven water as rain whereby He brought forth fruits for your sustenance, therefore create not constitutions rival to that of Allah when you are made known what is good for you.

23) Yet if you the opposers are in doubt concerning this peace and prosperity purpose based constitution We have revealed for the mankind through Our messenger then bring a constitution as good as this yourselves if you can. If you on your own cannot then invite all your supporters against Allah to help you do this and see if your doubting it can really prove true.

24) However if you cannot do this and surely you cannot then think about the result of fire of hatred you are creating between mankind which is fuelled by some people through denying access to provisions for others, it is ignited by those who reject and oppose the constitution of Allah.

25) Nonetheless despite opposition deliver the good news for those who would commit to working for peace and act to remove obstacles in the way of peace between mankind that awaits for them the blissful kingdoms throughout which rivers will flow of all that they would need and desire. Every time they will participate in that kingdom, they will receive the full fruits of their hard works therefrom. They will say to each other, this is how people like us received full results of their hard work before us, for they will be given results of their hard work just like them. Moreover they will have therein peace and prosperity loving people as companions who would be free from domineering mindset whereby people end up inflicting harm and destruction upon each other. Such like will be the people who will end up in such like kingdom.

26) Surely Allah does not raise a people to such dignified life to be an example for others the likes of a mass pile of a people that is mentally dead, weak and mean but a nation that is far above that, so that those who commit to working for peace and prosperity know for sure that it is the proper example from their lord, yet as for those who ignore and oppose Our guidance say, what did Allah mean to convey by way of this like example? Thereby He lets many remain stray due to their mindset and thereby he guides many due to their attitude, however He lets stray thereby only such as have adverse mindset towards His constitution and destructive attitude towards mankind.

27) Those who seek and conspire to move mankind away from the constitution of Allah after ratifying it, thereby seek discord in what Allah has commanded unity and they cause fights and wars in the earth. These are the ones who are in loss themselves and are cause of harm for others.

28) How can you reject and oppose dignified life giving constitution of Allah, for you were a mentally dead people living aimless lives and He brought you purposeful life thereby? Moreover He lets you die a natural death then He will bring you back to life again and so you will return to Him to answer for all that you are doing.



So divide between control of kings and God is very old one but people are not aware of it thanks to our mullahs. One only needs to read the quran once in his life time and all will fall in place provided one has the needed level of comprehension to understand the quran.

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[Zarvan]

Why does rich and powerful elite fund mullahs? The answer is very simpe because it serves their purpose to divide people on basis of imperialism and priesthood. Rich and powerful want to rule people through controlling land and its resources as well as means of production and distribution. So long as these people can control political and economic interests then all people are under their thumb because if you control anyone's livelihood you control him ie he is your slave and you are his master.

Mullahs control people mentally by telling them porky pies in the name of God keeping them ignorant and confused with mass backing of media. So by conditioning people mentally the way you want you can treat them like your guard dogs or hunting dogs or slave labour.

So long as people keep on producing nonsense interpretations of divine scriptures and they are massively funded to spread them who can stop use and abuse of masses in the name of whatever?

Would anyone listen to odd voice in the wilderness no matter how reasonable?


SURAH 1 AL FATIHA=The Divine Proclamation for the mankind

1) Proclaim! In the name of Allah, the Gracious, the Merciful,

2) That sovereignty belongs to Allah alone because He is the creator and the sustainer of the kingdoms of the universe,

3) The gracious, the merciful,

4) The provider of the constitution for mankind to live by.

5) Therefore O mankind declare that only to Your constitution we commit and through its help we will seek your sustenance,

6) Therefore show us thereby the firmly founded way to peace and prosperity,

7) The way of those whom you blessed with peace and prosperity, of those whom you did not let suffer indignation because they went not away from Your constitution.




Surah 2 AL BAQARAH= The Conflicts and Resolutions

Proclaim, in the name of Allah the Gracious the Merciful.

1) ALIF LAAM MEEM.

2) This is the constitution no doubt for peace and prosperity of mankind, in which is guidance for people who wish to protect humanity against harm and destruction.

3) People who would commit to working for peace and prosperity in the land for the better future of mankind by means of implementing the divine program in order to open up the opportunities for the benefit of all by using all the ways and means of sustenance We have provided for them.

4) So those who commit to working for peace according to that which is revealed to you and according to that which was revealed before you they are sure about the promised outcome of their actions.

5) Such are the ones who are on clear guidance from their Lord and these are the ones who will attain peace and prosperity due to being free from inflicting harm and destruction upon each other.

6)As for those in the land who commit themselves to inflicting harm and destruction on mankind, it is same for them that you warn them about the destructive results of their thoughts and actions or you warn them not they will not commit to working for peace and prosperity of mankind.

7) Allah finds their arrogance covering up their ability to think about peace and their ability of responding to call of peace as well as their ability to see the need for peace therefore they will end up in great suffering in due course as a result of their own actions.

8) Among the mankind there are people who claim, we are committed to working for peace and prosperity according to constitution of Allah for the good end result for the mankind but in actual fact they are not committed to working for peace and prosperity at all as is obvious from the results of their own actions.

9) They just make attempts at deceiving masses regarding constitution of Allah as well as those who are really committed to working for peace, though in actual fact they deceive none but themselves and their own people but they realise it not.

10) In their minds is destructive ambition to dominate others and Allah finds their this desire increasing rivalry therefore the result of their actions is grievous suffering because they deny to others benefits of working according to the divine constitution.

11) When it is said to them, do not cause wars in the land they say, surely we are only trying to create peace.

12) Nay, they are creators of wars for sure as is evident from the result of their actions yet they admit it not.

13) When it is said to them, give up harmful and destructive ambitions for exploiting humanity and commit to working for peace like other people who are committed to working for peace they say, shall we commit to working for peace like the foolish. Of course, it is they who are foolish not realising the benefits of living according to the divine constitution because they do not really want to know about it.

14) However when they meet those who are committed to working for peace they tell them, we too are committed to working for peace but when they are in private with their fellow conspirators against those who are committed to working for peace they tell them, we are indeed with you, we were surely pretending to be with those who are committed to working for peace.

15) Surely in time Allah will expose their deceptions by results of their own actions and let them wander in their confusion like the ones blind or lost in darkness .

16) These are people who have chosen to live in a harmful way instead of living according to divine constitution so their choice is not going to benefit them because they have refused to be guided.

17) The likeness of their ability to choose and Our provision of guidance for them is like that of a person who lights up a fire for them to see but when it lightens up all around it, Allah lets them go by their own sight thereby letting them remain in the darkness because they refuse to see.

18) They act like deaf, dumb and blind due to arrogance that is how they refuse to turn to guidance.

19) Or the likeness of behaviour of some of them to Our guidance is like that of a people to the huge rainstorm from sky with periods of darkness, thunder and lightning. They press their fingers in their ears due to thunderclap for fear of death yet pay no attention to laws of Allah that are in action all around the opposers of His constitution.

20) The lightning almost snatches away their sight of them. As often as it flashes for them they walk due to it but when it darkens for them they stand still. Had Allah meant to make them deaf and blind, He could have taken away their sense of hearing and their sense of sight. Indeed! Allah has set up laws for all things to work accordingly including mankind.

21) So O you the people, live according to the constitution of your lord who has furnished you with ability of good conduct towards each other like those before you so that you could become free of harmful and destructive ways of existence.

22 ) Who brought about for you the earth like a floor and the heaven like a canopy and sent down from the heaven water as rain whereby He brought forth fruits for your sustenance, therefore create not constitutions rival to that of Allah when you are made known what is good for you.

23) Yet if you the opposers are in doubt concerning this peace and prosperity purpose based constitution We have revealed for the mankind through Our messenger then bring a constitution as good as this yourselves if you can. If you on your own cannot then invite all your supporters against Allah to help you do this and see if your doubting it can really prove true.

24) However if you cannot do this and surely you cannot then think about the result of fire of hatred you are creating between mankind which is fuelled by some people through denying access to provisions for others, it is ignited by those who reject and oppose the constitution of Allah.

25) Nonetheless despite opposition deliver the good news for those who would commit to working for peace and act to remove obstacles in the way of peace between mankind that awaits for them the blissful kingdoms throughout which rivers will flow of all that they would need and desire. Every time they will participate in that kingdom, they will receive the full fruits of their hard works therefrom. They will say to each other, this is how people like us received full results of their hard work before us, for they will be given results of their hard work just like them. Moreover they will have therein peace and prosperity loving people as companions who would be free from domineering mindset whereby people end up inflicting harm and destruction upon each other. Such like will be the people who will end up in such like kingdom.

26) Surely Allah does not raise a people to such dignified life to be an example for others the likes of a mass pile of a people that is mentally dead, weak and mean but a nation that is far above that, so that those who commit to working for peace and prosperity know for sure that it is the proper example from their lord, yet as for those who ignore and oppose Our guidance say, what did Allah mean to convey by way of this like example? Thereby He lets many remain stray due to their mindset and thereby he guides many due to their attitude, however He lets stray thereby only such as have adverse mindset towards His constitution and destructive attitude towards mankind.

27) Those who seek and conspire to move mankind away from the constitution of Allah after ratifying it, thereby seek discord in what Allah has commanded unity and they cause fights and wars in the earth. These are the ones who are in loss themselves and are cause of harm for others.

28) How can you reject and oppose dignified life giving constitution of Allah, for you were a mentally dead people living aimless lives and He brought you purposeful life thereby? Moreover He lets you die a natural death then He will bring you back to life again and so you will return to Him to answer for all that you are doing.



So divide between control of kings and God is very old one but people are not aware of it thanks to our mullahs. One only needs to read the quran once in his life time and all will fall in place provided one has the needed level of comprehension to understand the quran.

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Sir Mullahs are funded because they are serving Islam and also taking care of lot of poor children and also making efforts to spread Islam

 

[hasanJ]

Mullah's have the sole purpose of brainwashing innocent Children and Illiterate/Naive Men

 

[Zarvan]

Mullah's have the sole purpose of brainwashing innocent Children and Illiterate/Naive Men

Sir Mullahs have taught Islam and they will keep doing it but their are some traitors who take funds from Non Muslims and create Fitna and chaos rather than serving Islam but defeat is their destiny and hope they soon get exposed

 

[hasanJ]

Sir Mullahs have taught Islam and they will keep doing it but their are some traitors who take funds from Non Muslims and create Fitna and chaos rather than serving Islam but defeat is their destiny and hope they soon get exposed

Most bro MOST of them are Traitors

 

[Zarvan]

Most bro MOST of them are Traitors

Sir only 5 percent of them are traitors people hate them because they don't change the Islam to make people happy or we can say their evil souls happy but these 5 % USA funded Mullahs will be exposed soon

 

[Karachiite]

Sir Mullahs are funded because they are serving Islam and also taking care of lot of poor children and also making efforts to spread Islam

Yes they are taking care of children by chaining them up in madrassahs and torturing them. As for spreading Islam most mullis have made a mockery out of it.

 

[Mughal1]

Sir Mullahs are funded because they are serving Islam and also taking care of lot of poor children and also making efforts to spread Islam

Dear brother, please avoid calling mullahs to those sincere muslims who worked and work for islam as they should. By mullahs I do not mean ulema=proper scholars of islam.

Mullahs if you know our history were those people who were installed as a priestly class by our imperialist kings to serve their purpose by turning deene islam in to religious hocus-pocus as explained by sir syed marhoom and allaama iqbal marhoom.

The current followers of those mullahs are mostly a confused bunch that have no idea what the difference is between deen and mazhab.

These are the people who are puppets in foreign hands. In simple, people who claim to be muslims yet work against the proper teachings of the quran and the hadith to further anti quranic agendas.

 

[Zarvan]

Yes they are taking care of children by chaining them up in madrassahs and torturing them. As for spreading Islam most mullis have made a mockery out of it.

Sir in Most Madrassas not torture take place first visit them before talking the most news these days are coming of schools where children are facing brutal torture rather than from Madrassas

 

[Mughal1]

Sir only 5 percent of them are traitors people hate them because they don't change the Islam to make people happy or we can say their evil souls happy but these 5 % USA funded Mullahs will be exposed soon

No dear brother, they are a lot more than 5% and people hate them because that is what they teach them against each other. If you are aware they throw their fatwas at each other like pan cakes and since their hunting dogs they raise look for jannat they go and take care of their enemies as per their brainwashing.

This is why muslim ummah is the way it is because they keep misleading our people turning them in to ignorant fools making them laughing stock for the rest of the world.

Islamic scholarship has been suppressed by them for centuries because they did not allow people to read and carry out their own researches and explorations on the quran and hadith and if anyone dared fatwas came flying from left, right and centre.

Please read about sir syed, iqbal, jinnah and parwez etc. Find out how many mullahs opposed creation of pakistan and why?

It is because sir syed commit the crime of telling people to read the quran rationally.

It is because iqbal told people to read the quran as a constitution of islam.

It is because iqbal, jinnah and parwez etc told people to take the quran as principle for slamic shariah laws on basis of shoora's agreement.

It is because all this makes mullahs redundant they rather not lose their this power over masses. Education helps people become free of mullahs' control therefore they oppose it tooth and nail.

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[hasanJ]

Sir only 5 percent of them are traitors people hate them because they don't change the Islam to make people happy or we can say their evil souls happy but these 5 % USA funded Mullahs will be exposed soon

How did u arrive at that Figure?

In the words of Allama Iqbal
Deen-e- Mullah;
fasad fi'sabilillah

 

[Mughal1]

Yes they are taking care of children by chaining them up in madrassahs and torturing them. As for spreading Islam most mullis have made a mockery out of it.

You are right to a great extent dear Karachiite. It is because the mullahs islam is spread everywhere nonmuslims are at our throat raising objection about their interpretation of islam. So many mistakes in the quran text they claim, so much wrong with the life of the prphet they find and all because of mullahs deliberate misinterpretation of islam and their misrepresentation of islam.

Once wrong kind of rumours are spread first and widely it is difficult to get people to listen the right message of islam. This is contribution of our mullahs to islam and muslims feel trapped anywhere and everywhere today.

It is time people who claim to be muslims wake up or things are going to get much worse because mullahs are still busy making life hell for many through their stupidity.

They are busy creating more and more animosity and enemies of islam and muslims instead of brotherhood and friendship as very clearly taught by the quran and the hadith.

It is therefore time muslims learned islam properly directly from the quran and the hadith and not from mullahs if we want peaceful and prosperous world in the name of God.

 

[Zarvan]

How did u arrive at that Figure?

In the words of Allama Iqbal
Deen-e- Mullah;
fasad fi'sabilillah

ALLAMA Sahab is not the final authority Sir and also in one poem he even defended Mullahs Sir so Mullahs have served Islam to a great extent

 

[Awesome]

Sir Mullahs are funded because they are serving Islam and also taking care of lot of poor children and also making efforts to spread Islam

They are funded by the US embassy to serve Islam?

US Government has acted against Islamic interests around the world and continues to do so by supporting tyranny in Kashmir and Palestine. Moreover it has decimated Iraq, ravaged Afghanistan, supported civil war by arming lunatic rebels in Libya, is going after Iran... The US army has murdered over 2000 people in Pakistan, sent CIA spies that killed Lahoris, blocked nuclear deals for Pakistan, is blocking oil pipeline for Pakistan that would uplift the conditions in Pakistan... That US is funding Mullahs to serve Islam?

You want to take that back, Zarvan? Don't you agree that many thousands of such Mullahs exist in Pakistan that take money and tell children to go bomb schools, markets and even mosques?