US expert warns of conflict among Shia groups in Iraq

[bsruzm]

"The storming of the Iraqi parliament by supporters of Shia leader Muqtada al-Sadr has the potential to trigger an armed conflict among Shia groups, former U.S. envoy to Syria Robert Ford told Anadolu Agency Saturday.

“Certainly it means two things,” Ford said. “It means, number one, there can be more political and maybe armed conflict between different Iraqi Shia elements between Muqtada al-Sadr and Nour al Maliki-supported groups, and maybe between militias belonging to some of the Iranian-backed groups and Muqtada al-Sadr supporters.”

He added that al-Sadr was currently showing his strength, but it was not clear yet in whose favor the crisis would end up."

US expert warns of conflict among Shia groups in Iraq

 

[Pandora]

Poor iranians. A real democratic and independent Iraq would put an end to Iran's exploitation of Iraqi oil and lands.
Poor poor iranians

It is not iranians who brought iraq to this point and introduced divide and conquer policy. Blaming everything on Iran is petty. All regional player played a key role in destruction of iraq for sake of petty power grab.

 

[azzo]

It is not iranians who brought iraq to this point and introduced divide and conquer policy. Blaming everything on Iran is petty. All regional player played a key role in destruction of iraq for sake of petty power grab.

Umm I wasn't talking about the cause..? I could care less who caused this. I'm talking about the iranian situation who will not be able to use a Iraq as a door mat anymore.

 

[Pandora]

Umm I wasn't talking about the cause..? I could care less who caused this. I'm talking about the iranian situation who will not be able to use a Iraq as a door mat anymore.

Yes talk about the cause who the hell cares about effect as people responsible are comfortably sitting on their *** warmers.

 

[ultron]

Umm I wasn't talking about the cause..? I could care less who caused this. I'm talking about the iranian situation who will not be able to use a Iraq as a door mat anymore.

Iran was converted to Shia by Iraq. Iraq is the center of Shia. First, Islam is an Arabic creation. Second, the mosques of Ali, Husayn, Abbas are in Iraq.

 

[azzo]

Iran was converted to Shia by Iraq. Iraq is the center of Shia. First, Islam is an Arabic creation. Second, the mosques of Ali, Husayn, Abbas are in Iraq.

This is the most irrelevant and useless reply I've ever read lol

 

[Madali]

http://www.kuna.net.kw/ArticleDetails.aspx?id=2500497&language=en

Iranian Foreign Minister Mohammad Javad Zarif has urged the international community to help Iraq get out of the current political and security dilemma.
The international community and countries in the region should cooperate with the UN to find a logical way out of this dilemma, Zarif said in a meeting with visiting UN Special Envoy for Iraq Jan Kubis.
Zarif noted that the presence of terrorist groups in Iraq is the major hurdle facing the country.
He added that fight against terrorist groups mainly the so-called Islamic State (IS) is among the priorities in Iraq and the Islamic Republic of Iran has voiced readiness to help resolve the issue.
The UN Special Envoy for Iraq, for his part, described Iran's leading role in resolving current problems in Iraq as very constructive.

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News this is not new. Every once in a while, the western media reports on another rift with Iran's allies, whether it is Iraq's, or the Syrian's government unhappy with Iran influence, or elements within Hezbollah, or whatever. These are usually overblown.

To any person with any understanding of politics knows that Iran will never support Maliki to go against al-Sadr. Iran's influence in the region hasn't been through it being an economic or military superpower, but through it's political maneuvering, and I can't see them throwing all that away to suddenly fight al-Sadr.

In reality, which should piss off some of you people, a stronger Al-Sadr would turn Iraq into an even stronger Iranian ally.

 

[Bilad al-Haramayn]

Prophet Ibrahim (PBUH) and his grandson Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) are also Mesopotamian. Prophet Ibrahim (PBUH) born in North of Persian gulf in Ur.

https://www.google.com/search?q=bir...d=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8#q=birthplace+ibrahim

Ancient Persian and Mesopotamian:

His father 'Azar' had a Persian name Azar = fire. Ibrahim is a Persian name, Ebrahim = brother to all, Baradar (Persian) : brother

Dokhtar (Persian) : daughter - Madar = mother - Pedar = father
etc...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_English_words_of_Persian_origin

No, Prophet Ibrahim (as) was a Semite from Southern Iraq (Ur) and lived almost 2000 years before any Iranian state was founded. Ibrahim is not a Persian name (lol) but a Semitic name meaning "exalted father".

Your photo is of the Semitic Assyrian Empire under Sargon II.

Azar is a Semitic name (Syriac) that derives from Athar.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abraham_in_Islam

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assyria

Aramaic was once the lingua franca of the Semitic people from Yemen to Southern Turkey and now for the past 1400 years it has been replaced by the Semitic Arabic. A closely related language.

Prophet Muhammad (saws) just as all Adnani Arabs (vast majority of Arabs) trace their direct linage to Prophet Ibrahim's (as) first-born son Ishmael (ra). Prophet Ibrahim (as) migrated to Hijaz and his descendants all lived there for 3000 years until Prophet Muhammad's (saws) family started migrating with the spread of Islam.

Please stop claiming history that is not yours or writing historical nonsense. Thanks.

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https://twitter.com/x/status/726545247686287361

Iraqi Shia Arabs are very nationalistic Arabs. They preserve ancient Arab customs and traditions that few Arabs do to this day. They will never accept to be an Iranian satellite state. Recent events prove that once again.

 

[Aramagedon]

No, Prophet Ibrahim (as) was a Semite from Southern Iraq (Ur) and lived almost 2000 years before any Iranian state was founded. Ibrahim is not a Persian name (lol) but a Semitic name meaning "exalted father".

Your photo is of the Semitic Assyrian Empire under Sargon II.

Azar is a Semitic name (Syriac) that derives from Athar.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abraham_in_Islam

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assyria

Aramaic was once the lingua franca of the Semitic people from Yemen to Southern Turkey and now for the past 1400 years it has been replaced by the Semitic Arabic. A closely related language.

Prophet Muhammad (saws) just as all Adnani Arabs (vast majority of Arabs) trace their direct linage to Prophet Ibrahim's (as) first-born son Ishmael (ra). Prophet Ibrahim (as) migrated to Hijaz and his descendants all lived there for 3000 years until Prophet Muhammad's (saws) family started migrating with the spread of Islam.

Please stop claiming history that is not yours or writing historical nonsense. Thanks.

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https://twitter.com/x/status/726545247686287361

Iraqi Shia Arabs are very nationalistic Arabs. They preserve ancient Arab customs and traditions that few Arabs do to this day.

My writing is clear. Prophet Ibrahim (PBUH) and his wives born in north of Persian gulf. He wasn't a Saudi nor he spoke Arabic (even arabic language didn't ever exist). Prophet Ibrahim (PBUH) rebuilt Kaaba while no human lived in Mecca. History of accident Iranians and Mesopotamians: (prophet Ibrahim birthplace)

http://www.britannica.com/place/Elam

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elam

Azar is an original old Mesopotamian/Iranian name not Syrian.

'Tarokh' uncle of Prophet Ibrahim (PBUH) has also a Persian name. Rokh is an old Persian name which means 'face'. Shahrokh, Mahrokh, Farokh, Golrokh, Tarokh are all old Persian names and Iranians still use them for naming male babies.

http://islamichistory.org/prophet-ibrahim/

Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) and Quraish tribe in general were not arabian people. They were Unique. They worshipped Allah [follower of their grandfather religion] while arabs worshipped idolds. Nobel Quran says Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) is not father any Arab he is only Prophet of Allah.

Nobel Quran: [33:40]

مَّا كَانَ مُحَمَّدٌ أَبَا أَحَدٍ مِّن رِّجَالِكُمْ وَلَكِن رَّسُولَ اللَّهِ وَخَاتَمَ النَّبِيِّينَ وَكَانَ اللَّهُ بِكُلِّ شَيْءٍ عَلِيمًا

Muhammad (pbuh) is not the father of any of your men. he is the messenger of allah and the seal of the prophets. allah has knowledge of all things.

Prophets are grandson of Prophets. Prophet Ibrahim (PBUH) father of all of religions is grandfather of Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) therefore Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) is a none arab and not an Arab/Hijazi. Very very clear
Quraish tribe in general are not from Arabs. Clear

Imam Husain (PBUH) grandson of holy Prophet and father of 9 Shia Imams had also an Iranian wife which clearly shows linkage of Ahlulbayt (PBUT) with Iranians.


EDIT: Dude you are such a truthfulll person. You have put names of all of Imam Husain (PBUH) wives except his Iranian and main wife Bibi Shahrbanu (PBUH) mother of Imam Ali ibn Husain (PBUH) Fourth Shia Imam.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ali_ibn_Husayn_Zayn_al-Abidin

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shahrbanu

 

[Bilad al-Haramayn]

My writing is clear. Prophet Ibrahim (PBUH) and his wives born in north of Persian gulf. He wasn't a Saudi nor he spoke Arabic (even arabic language didn't ever exist). Prophet Ibrahim (PBUH) rebuilt Kaaba while no human lived in Mecca. History of accident Iranians and Mesopotamians: (prophet Ibrahim birthplace)

http://www.britannica.com/place/Elam

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elam


Azar is an original Mesopotamian/Iranian name not Syrian.

'Tarokh' uncle of Prophet Ibrahim (PBUH) has also a Persian name. Rokh is an old Iranian name which means 'Face'.
Shahrokh, Mahrokh, Farokh, Golrokh, Tarokh are all old Persian names and Iranians still use them for naming male babies.

http://islamichistory.org/prophet-ibrahim/

Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) and Quraish tribe in general were not arabian people. They were Unique. They worshipped Allah [follower of their grandfather religion] while arabs worshipped idolds. Nobel Quran says Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) is not father any Arab he is only prophet of Allah.

Nobel Quran: [33:40]

مَّا كَانَ مُحَمَّدٌ أَبَا أَحَدٍ مِّن رِّجَالِكُمْ وَلَكِن رَّسُولَ اللَّهِ وَخَاتَمَ النَّبِيِّينَ وَكَانَ اللَّهُ بِكُلِّ شَيْءٍ عَلِيمًا

Muhammad (pbuh) is not the father of any of your men. he is the messenger of allah and the seal of the prophets. allah has knowledge of all things.

Anyway the fact is Prophet Ibrahim (PBUH) born in Mesopotamia and he is not arab by any rate. Prophets are sons of prophets... Our beloved Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) is also grandson of Prophet Ibrahim (PBUH) so he is not an arab. Very Very clear.

Imam Hasan (PBUH) and imam Husain (PBUH) dear martyred grandsons of holy prophet had also Iranian wives to show linkage of Ahlulbayt with Iranians.

All what you have written is absolute nonsense with no base in history whatsoever. I already proved that with links.

Prophet Ibrahim (AS) was a Semite and lived millennia before Iran or any Iranian languages existed. In Southern Iraq (Ur) very close to modern-day KSA. All Abrahamic religions (Judaism, Christianity and Islam) are Semitic religions and so is every known Prophet.

Quraysh were and are an Arab tribe and saying anything else is simply distorting history. Makkah, Hijaz and Arabia have been inhabited by people longer than any other region of the world outside of Eastern Africa. So that is nonsense as well.

In pre-Islamic times Arabs had Christian, Jewish kingdoms and large communities of Hanifs. Pre-Abrahamic Semitic religions influenced the Semitic Abrahamic religions a lot which every historian will tell.

No, Prophet Muhammad (saws) was not an Arab. That's right. Keep trolling my Iranian friend but you cannot change history.

When Prophet Ibrahim (as) lived none of the current ethnic groups were alive but he was a Semite and of his pedigree came the Semitic Arabs. Persians have nothing to do with him or Semites. Nor Prophet Muhammad (saws).

Using such absurd logic and lies we can also say that every Iranian is an Arab. All your historical persons are Arabs. How about that, lol?

Hasan ibn Ali (ra) wiwes:

• Um Kulthum bint Alfadhl bin Al-Abbas bin Abdulmuttalib bin Hashim
• Khawla bint Mandhoor bin Zaban bin Syar bin Amro
• Um Basheer bint Abi Mas'ud
• Ju'da bint Al-Ash'ath bin Qays Ma'di Karb Alkindi
• Um Ishaq bint Talha bin Ubaydillah bin Uthman Al-Taymi
• Zainab bint Sabee' bin Abdullah
• Baqliya
• Dhamya'
• Safia

None Iranian. ALL Arab.

Husayn ibn Ali (ra)

Umme Rubāb
Umme Laylā
Umm Ishāq.

All Arab again.

Now stop lying and trying to pass of Semitic and Arab history as Iranian. The whole world knows about the historical facts. You writing nonsense on some Pakistani forum won't change that. My discussion has ended with you on this topic. You can write whatever nonsense you want to as a reply. Won't change history.

 

[Aramagedon]

When Prophet Ibrahim (as) lived none of the current ethnic groups were alive but he was a Semite and of his pedigree came the Semitic Arabs. Persians have nothing to do with him or Semites. Nor Prophet Muhammad (saws).

http://www.britannica.com/place/Elam

Prophet Ibrahim (PBUH) was a Mesopotamian not arab. He has no connection with Yemeni/Saudi arabs or any other race in MENA. Mesopotamians, Elamites, Persians, Medes etc... are accident Iranian, Iraq people and they have no connection with Arabs.

Even at time of Prophet Ibrahim (PBUH) no human lived in Mecca and Arabia.

Now claim everyone on planet is Saudi as much as you want and make fake glory for yourself and please yourself as much as u want my Saudi arabian friend.

 

[Bilad al-Haramayn]

http://www.britannica.com/place/Elam

Prophet Ibrahim (PBUH) was a Mesopotamian not arab. He has no connection with Yemeni/Saudi arabs.

Even at his time Arabs were none existed and no human lived in Arabia and Mecca when Prophet Ibrahim and his son repaired Kaaba.

Keep trolling.

Arabs and Iranians (nor their languages) did not even exist 4500 years ago but Semites did and Arabs are a Semitic people who descend from older Semitic peoples. Prophet Ibrahim (as) settled in Makkah and Hijaz and all his descendants later became Arabic speaking peoples and Arabs. The vast majority of Arabs (Adnani) trace their ancestry directly to him. The first Semitic peoples migrated out of Arabia so Prophet Ibrahim (as) descendants lived in Arabia before as well. Prophet Muhammad (saws) was an Arab. The Quraysh tribe was and is an Arab tribe.

4500 years ago there was no Iran or Persians and obviously none of those people have or had anything to do with what later came to be Iran or Iranians. They did never even set foot there to begin with.

That is why Arabs are not only Arab people but also Semitic peoples.



Of course, you are completely right. Nobody lived there, expect for the fact that Arabia is the oldest inhabited place in the world outside of Eastern Africa.



http://voices.nationalgeographic.com/2011/11/03/modern-humans-wandered-out-of-africa-via-arabia/

Now go back to writing nonsense. Meanwhile the history, which is known for all to see, is written in stone and nothing will change that. Certainly not some Iranian, sorry Arab, (using your logic), trolling on a Pakistani forum.