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UK should make Eid and Diwali public holidays

lol what you are proving with your definition ? Secularism is against religion and it actually mean no religion? no Church/no mosque/no temple/no freedom of practising your religious beliefs? as i said before secular state mean all religion are equal and no religion play any role in state affairs and government passes laws that are free of religious influence but it treat all religion equal if not then there will be debate like above that why Eid/diwali is not holiday when Xmas is celebrated as public holiday?

It's simple England is not a secular state. If it was you wouldn't have just Christian holidays ,But since only holidays celebrated are Christian holidays( their country their rules ) I have no problem with it . I would simply book Eid or Muslim holidays off and enjoy it at home without forcing my believes on mass.
 
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Debate is there because Xmas is celebrated as holiday and secular mean all religions are equal in society and secularism is not opposition of religions


point to be noted because it's a secular country it shouldn't have problem with other religions festival where as saudia arabia clearly says it's a islamic state
 
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You can say UK is secular country with Christian heritage or culture.

British social attitude suvey revealed that 50.6% of the population now claim to have no religion (up from 47.7% last year). The proportion of the British population who identify themselves as Anglican has more than halved in the past ten years, with just 41.7% now regarding themselves as Christian. 4.6% self identify as Muslim, 1.5% as Sikh, 1.5% as Hindu and 0.5% as Jewish.

The survey found just 24% of people think being Christian is an important element of 'Britishness' – down from 32% in 1995.

Agreed the numbers are probably even higher now. Funny isnt it, that as a country develops or majority gets educated..Religion becomes a thing of a past.
 
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yes it should be a Holiday for Eid & Diwali but for all the U.K

It'll bring the communities together .
Or Have Eid off but work on Xmas
 
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yes it should be a Holiday for Eid & Diwali but for all the U.K

It'll bring the communities together .
Or Have Eid off but work on Xmas
Remove mandatory holidays for religious festivals and make it optional. That will not hurt business at all (the main argument here) and minorities can take holiday during their festival and work during chrismas.
 
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Remove mandatory holidays for religious festivals and make it optional. That will not hurt business at all (the main argument here) and minorities can take holiday during their festival and work during chrismas.

No i dont think they should remove religious holidays plus i think there good for business.
 
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UK should make Eid and Diwali public holidays, MP argues
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The UK should show that it "embraces" the Muslim and Hindu faiths by making Eid and Diwali public holidays, Conservative MP Bob Blackman has said.

Mr Blackman is championing an e-petition demanding the change in Parliament, after it was signed by more than 120,000 people.

Muslims and Hindus should have "the most important days in their faiths recognised in law", the petition says.

The government has already rejected the e-petitioners' request.

In its response to the petition, the government said: "We are very aware of the importance of these festivals which are widely celebrated in the UK.

"Whilst we appreciate a new national holiday may benefit some communities and sectors, the cost to the economy remains considerable and any changes to the current arrangements would not take place without a full consultation."

'Bigger considerations'
Mr Blackman pressed ministers to reconsider during a debate in the House of Commons' secondary debating chamber of Westminster Hall.

He said the government's concern about cost was "valid".

The MP for Harrow East said: "According to the Centre for Economics and Business Research, each public holiday costs £2.3bn per day due to a loss of retail, commercial services, and other industries.

"So we're looking at an overall economic cost of just under £5bn if the Muslim faith and the Hindu faith were to be given one specified public holiday each, if the estimate is correct."

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There were "bigger considerations" at stake than cost alone, Mr Blackman said
But, he continued, the think tank had also estimated that annual output would be raised by £19bn "if all public holidays were scrapped".

"That's not likely to happen. I can't believe any government would every dare to decide to cancel Christmas," Mr Blackman said.

"So we can't make a case for or against further public holidays just on the basis of money. If we did, we wouldn't have any public holidays at all."


There were "bigger considerations", he argued.

"Wouldn't it be a statement that we as a nation embrace these religions, and the people who hold them dear, and we are ready to recognise their place in our society?

"Creating these public holidays would be an important step towards promoting the understanding and tolerance of different faiths - not just at home, but abroad too.

"We want other nations to look to the UK for a good example of positive integration, and for highly skilled prospective immigrants to consider coming to our country with a sense that their faith is a respected part of their identity."

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Few MPs attended the debate, which coincided with a Commons statement from PM David Cameron on Ukraine and Gaza
But Business Minister Jenny Willott was not persuaded by the MP's case.

"We are very lucky in this country to have such a hugely diverse and mixed and vibrant society that we all benefit from," she told MPs.

"Faith groups play a hugely important role in making life better for other people and making communities a better place for people to live."

But she emphasised ministers' concern about cost, and concluded: "The government does not believe that there should be a public holiday to mark these particular occasions.

"I know that will disappoint some people."

If an e-petition gets 10,000 signatures, it is eligible for a written response from the government, which is published alongside the original petition onthe government's e-petitions website.

If it reaches as many as 100,000 signatures, a parliamentary committee will consider whether it merits a Commons debate if an MP wants to propose one.

BBC News - UK should make Eid and Diwali public holidays, MP argues
Stupid MP,People need more Jobs & Infrastructure not Useless Holidays
 
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technically UK is a anglican country, the queen is head of church of England and head of state.. the head of state by law has to be of anglican faith...
peers(member of upper house in parliament) who are appointed based on faith, need to be from church of England only. (cannot be catholic, let alone muslim or hindu).

The broader question should be, how can the mother of democracy continue to be like this.
In reality though this is quite a secular country, as there is little influence of church of England, on day to day activities of govt.


All comes down to the medieval era relic called monarchy.
 
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Just make Eid as paid holiday just for Muslims and Diwali a paid holiday just for Hindus. This way everyone is happy.

Or else give each person a couple of Paid Holidays for their religious days to make it equitable.
 
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No offence meant , but Pakistan has had Hindus for centuries and yet Diwali / Holi is not a public holiday.

Isn't it too much to expect the Christians to declare a holiday for Hindu & Muslim festivals ?
 
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yes it should be a Holiday for Eid & Diwali but for all the U.K

It'll bring the communities together .
Or Have Eid off but work on Xmas

Would you support same favour in Pakistan for Hindus and Christians. ;)
 
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It's simple England is not a secular state. If it was you wouldn't have just Christian holidays ,But since only holidays celebrated are Christian holidays( their country their rules ) I have no problem with it . I would simply book Eid or Muslim holidays off and enjoy it at home without forcing my believes on mass.
Earlier u guys were saying that India in Non - Secular.Now England... Let me tell u there is nothing called an ideal secular state.
Pakistan with its own official name just takes pride in announcing that its only for one religion.... Still u guys just want to blame India which gives holidays for all minority community as communal.


Would you support same favour in Pakistan for Hindus and Christians. ;)
No they won't
But any I think British should give holidays for minority festivals since they claim that they are the most secular state.
 
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Earlier u guys were saying that India in Non - Secular.Now England... Let me tell u there is nothing called an ideal secular state.
Pakistan with its own official name just takes pride in announcing that its only for one religion.... Still u guys just want to blame India which gives holidays for all minority community as communal.

What does this thread has to do with India ?
 
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