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San Diego (CNN) -- Here's a scary thought: There's a country where officials are suggesting that the visas of gay partners of U.S. diplomats be revoked and these individuals be put in jail -- not because the country recently outlawed same-sex relationships but to crack down on Americans.
In that country, the government is also curtailing the privileges traditionally granted to U.S. consulate staff, taking down protective barricades in front of the U.S. consulate and snubbing U.S. diplomatic officers.


Where do you suppose you'll find this anti-American backlash brewing? North Korea? Cuba? Iran? Surely, it must be a place where the citizens hate the United States. Perhaps it's a political adversary with which relations have never been particularly good

Nope. All this is happening in India, which has long been a good and dependable friend and ally to the United States, most recently during the war on terror.

These are tense times in U.S.-India relations. And it's all because of how agents with the U.S. Marshals Service treated Devyani Khobragade when she was recently arrested and detained.

The 39-year-old deputy counsel general of India was taken into custody in New York on December 12 after she dropped her daughter off at school, and she was charged with visa fraud for allegedly lying on the application that she filled out to get permission for her nanny to legally work in the United States.

Court documents allege that she stated on the application that she was paying the nanny the minimum wage in New York -- $9.75 per hour, when she was really only paying her what worked out to be about $3.31 per hour.

Even that part of the story is fuzzy. Imagine someone coming into your home and calculating what you're paying a housekeeper or nanny or gardener by the hour, when you're paying them a flat rate for the day. I know friends who have live-in nannies, and those baby sitters are essentially on-call around the clock. They're probably making less than minimum wage as well, but with room and board thrown in.


Anyway, what happened next isn't being disputed by either side.
Khobragade was put in a holding cell with other female detainees and strip-searched. She eventually posted bond, and she was released. She is now staying at India's Permanent Mission to the United Nations.
The U.S. Marshals Service claims that a strip-search is standard operating procedure and that none of its policies were violated in this case. A spokesman says that Khobragade was treated just like anyone else.

That's the problem. Khobragade is not just like anyone else. She is a diplomatic officer with limited immunity. She's in the United States representing a proud country filled with reserved and modest people, many of whom consider a strip-search to be, as one Indian official said, "barbaric."

This is a country that in recent years has had good relations with the United States and where we have foreign officers stationed who we expect to be treated fairly and humanely.

Besides, she is not a violent criminal or a terror suspect, and she doesn't appear to be a threat to public safety.


If there is a labor law violation here, it would a civil crime, not a criminal offense. And if the U.S. government is going to throw the book at people who mistreat workers, I could -- as someone who writes about the immigration issue -- provide dozens of names of U.S. citizens, from farmers to soccer moms, who belong in a lineup.

Lying on a visa application is no small matter, but we're still not sure that is what happened given how wages are sometimes arrived at. Either way, it does seem that U.S. marshals might have overreacted in this case.


Like other law enforcement officers, many federal agents already get what is referred to as cultural sensitivity training. But, it turns out, what they really need is a crash course in International Relations 101.

The Indian government is incensed, and it has a right to be.


There are questions about the procedure that agents followed in this case, and they need to be answered. Those policies need to be reviewed. Indian officials also want an apology, and they should get one. Secretary of State John Kerry should deliver it himself, going beyond what the State Department said in a statement is Kerry's "regret" over the incident.

Questions of Khobragade's guilt or innocence can wait for another day. Yet, decency and common sense can be dealt with now. Those things tell us something went wrong in this case. It's up to the Obama administration to make it right before this diplomatic crisis gets any bigger.

Opinion: U.S. owes India apology over strip-search - CNN.com
 
Indians should just be like us, you know why we are like this with the US?

When we played nice with them, they bombed our embassy in yugoslavia, and a bunch of other crap.

Now that we are actively in their face and defying everything status quo the US setup, they are surprisingly silent.

The US doesn't respect weakness, you got to be in their face to get that respect.

India will never be on an American map until you actively promote your own interests, don't think for a second, the US will thank you for doing favours for them, they will only consider it a weakness and think you are inferior and got no other choice.

China, Pakistan most obvious examples.
 
San Diego (CNN) -- Here's a scary thought: There's a country where officials are suggesting that the visas of gay partners of U.S. diplomats be revoked and these individuals be put in jail -- not because the country recently outlawed same-sex relationships but to crack down on Americans.
In that country, the government is also curtailing the privileges traditionally granted to U.S. consulate staff, taking down protective barricades in front of the U.S. consulate and snubbing U.S. diplomatic officers.


Where do you suppose you'll find this anti-American backlash brewing? North Korea? Cuba? Iran? Surely, it must be a place where the citizens hate the United States. Perhaps it's a political adversary with which relations have never been particularly good

Nope. All this is happening in India, which has long been a good and dependable friend and ally to the United States, most recently during the war on terror.

These are tense times in U.S.-India relations. And it's all because of how agents with the U.S. Marshals Service treated Devyani Khobragade when she was recently arrested and detained.

The 39-year-old deputy counsel general of India was taken into custody in New York on December 12 after she dropped her daughter off at school, and she was charged with visa fraud for allegedly lying on the application that she filled out to get permission for her nanny to legally work in the United States.

Court documents allege that she stated on the application that she was paying the nanny the minimum wage in New York -- $9.75 per hour, when she was really only paying her what worked out to be about $3.31 per hour.

Even that part of the story is fuzzy. Imagine someone coming into your home and calculating what you're paying a housekeeper or nanny or gardener by the hour, when you're paying them a flat rate for the day. I know friends who have live-in nannies, and those baby sitters are essentially on-call around the clock. They're probably making less than minimum wage as well, but with room and board thrown in.


Anyway, what happened next isn't being disputed by either side.
Khobragade was put in a holding cell with other female detainees and strip-searched. She eventually posted bond, and she was released. She is now staying at India's Permanent Mission to the United Nations.
The U.S. Marshals Service claims that a strip-search is standard operating procedure and that none of its policies were violated in this case. A spokesman says that Khobragade was treated just like anyone else.

That's the problem. Khobragade is not just like anyone else. She is a diplomatic officer with limited immunity. She's in the United States representing a proud country filled with reserved and modest people, many of whom consider a strip-search to be, as one Indian official said, "barbaric."

This is a country that in recent years has had good relations with the United States and where we have foreign officers stationed who we expect to be treated fairly and humanely.

Besides, she is not a violent criminal or a terror suspect, and she doesn't appear to be a threat to public safety.


If there is a labor law violation here, it would a civil crime, not a criminal offense. And if the U.S. government is going to throw the book at people who mistreat workers, I could -- as someone who writes about the immigration issue -- provide dozens of names of U.S. citizens, from farmers to soccer moms, who belong in a lineup.

Lying on a visa application is no small matter, but we're still not sure that is what happened given how wages are sometimes arrived at. Either way, it does seem that U.S. marshals might have overreacted in this case.


Like other law enforcement officers, many federal agents already get what is referred to as cultural sensitivity training. But, it turns out, what they really need is a crash course in International Relations 101.

The Indian government is incensed, and it has a right to be.


There are questions about the procedure that agents followed in this case, and they need to be answered. Those policies need to be reviewed. Indian officials also want an apology, and they should get one. Secretary of State John Kerry should deliver it himself, going beyond what the State Department said in a statement is Kerry's "regret" over the incident.

Questions of Khobragade's guilt or innocence can wait for another day. Yet, decency and common sense can be dealt with now. Those things tell us something went wrong in this case. It's up to the Obama administration to make it right before this diplomatic crisis gets any bigger.

Opinion: U.S. owes India apology over strip-search - CNN.com

Good. Lakhs of Amerindians will know about this crisis and will know our side.

I am happy they are not seeing one sided picture; Though I feel someone is trying desperately to get things in control and this article is part of the moves taken to control damage.
 
So are we arresting that gay US couple or not?

So are we arresting that gay US couple or not?
 
Good. Lakhs of Amerindians will know about this crisis and will know our side.

I am happy they are not seeing one sided picture; Though I feel someone is trying desperately to get things in control and this article is part of the moves taken to control damage.



US national who violate India law should face India justice, as for India national in the US need to follow US rule of law or face the consequence.
 
Not just an apology, GoI should also press for the removal of white *** licker Preet Barara. He not on only defended Diplomat's arrest but he is also spreading falsehoods in the media that the maid' family is being victimised in India
 
Justification and promotion of homosexuality - a sign of severe decline of culture and spirituality. God believing man never becomes justify sin. Today, they have legalized homosexual tomorrow - pedophiles, bestiality and necrophilia. And after a while start to sell the license to kill and generally justify any crime, and any sin.
I salute willful decision to resist on the imposing to India by West the moral corruption and degradation.
 
Now this might attract attention of Indians in US and if they start protesting like they did in case of anti-gay law then it will be something. :D
 
Anti gay law pass and enforce by the Indian in India, this law have nothing to do with the deputy consulate criminal case.
 
Not just an apology, GoI should also press for the removal of white *** licker Preet Barara. He not on only defended Diplomat's arrest but he is also spreading falsehoods in the media that the maid' family is being victimised in India
Most important, his credibility will be lost as this case is very very high profile.
 
Indians should just be like us, you know why we are like this with the US?

When we played nice with them, they bombed our embassy in yugoslavia, and a bunch of other crap.

Now that we are actively in their face and defying everything status quo the US setup, they are surprisingly silent.

The US doesn't respect weakness, you got to be in their face to get that respect.

India will never be on an American map until you actively promote your own interests, don't think for a second, the US will thank you for doing favours for them, they will only consider it a weakness and think you are inferior and got no other choice.

China, Pakistan most obvious examples.

after now on am never supporting America on anything , to hell with those self righteous arrogent fools ,,,
 
Most important, his credibility will be lost as this case is very very high profile.

He is cornered now. If State dept does decide to apologise to India, Preet Barara has to do lot of apologies to lot of people in state dept. He can forget being selected for Attorney General's post that he was so looking for
 
Not just an apology, GoI should also press for the removal of white *** licker Preet Barara. He not on only defended Diplomat's arrest but he is also spreading falsehoods in the media that the maid' family is being victimised in India

He may already in trouble in US.That guys one statement is enough for US complete embarrasment 'Victim's family is evacuated from India because they may subjected to human right violation in India' Well who f** is this US attorney to interfere in matters between Indian Court and Indian citizens ,even US citizens eyes may bulged with that idiotic words
 
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