Type 055 DDG News & Discussions

[ChineseToTheBone]

It think China need to consider building cruiser with more than 20k tonnage to face US CBG, like kirov or lider

Those might be overly expensive and unnecessarily large, especially if two smaller destroyers could be adopted for a numbers game instead. Naval powers such as Japan and the United Kingdom have both chose to build lighter ships that each cost less to build rather than heavier ships these recent years in order to have more available.

 

[ao333]

Those might be overly expensive and unnecessarily large, especially if two smaller destroyers could be adopted for a numbers game instead. Naval powers such as Japan and the United Kingdom have both chose to build lighter ships that each cost less to build rather than heavier ships these recent years in order to have more available.

Large ships are significantly more cost efficient, given the reduction in crew redundancy, however they are much harder to defend. The Japanese made this fatal mistake during WWII. Large, poorly defended Japanese ships became target practice for US torpedoes.

The US can build large ships because they have the nuclear deterrence and mobile missile defense systems to ensure their carrier's security. Thereon, they can consider cost efficiency. If America's adversaries all had the same number of nukes that the US had, American carriers would be much smaller than they are today.

Given China's current missile defense immaturity, it would be a terrible mistakes to build larger, less defensible ships

 

[antonius123]

Those might be overly expensive and unnecessarily large, especially if two smaller destroyers could be adopted for a numbers game instead. Naval powers such as Japan and the United Kingdom have both chose to build lighter ships that each cost less to build rather than heavier ships these recent years in order to have more available.

But dont you think large cruiser with heavy fire power could be lethal to CBG? Russia count on numerous large cruiser like kirov (>27,000 tonnage) to face US dozen of CBGs. Japan and British indeed doesnt need it as they dont have enemy with huge CBGs like US.

Imagine if such a large cruiser could carry DF21D or DF26 that would be very dangerous for CBG (wonder if it is possible to have large ship carry DF21 )

Large ships are significantly more cost efficient, given the reduction in crew redundancy, however they are much harder to defend. The Japanese made this fatal mistake during WWII. Large, poorly defended Japanese ships became target practice for US torpedoes.

The US can build large ships because they have the nuclear deterrence and mobile missile defense systems to ensure their carrier's security. Thereon, they can consider cost efficiency. If America's adversaries all had the same number of nukes that the US had, American carriers would be much smaller than they are today.

Given China's current missile defense immaturity, it would be a terrible mistakes to build larger, less defensible ships

HQ-9 should be quite matured defense missile comparable to S-300.
Large cruise with more than 100 HQ-9 will have strong defense system against air threat.


This is Lider, Russia's future battle cruise with 200 missiles (17,000 tonnage). Russia depend on large heavy armed cruise to handle US super carrier groups.

http://nationalinterest.org/blog/th...new-monster-warships-armed-200-missiles-16427

 

[21stCentury]

This is Lider, Russia's future battle cruise with 200 missiles (17,000 tonnage). Russia depend on large heavy armed cruise to handle US super carrier groups.

http://nationalinterest.org/blog/th...new-monster-warships-armed-200-missiles-16427

That is one of the most beautiful elegant ship I have seen, and at 17k tons this thing is an absolute BEAST, a gorgeous beast nonetheless.

 

[grey boy 2]

updates

 

[samsara]

Type 055 DDG update: integrated mast installed on bridge via hhfw

https://twitter.com/x/status/859394934255661056

 

[Deino]

When will it be launched ?

 

[samsara]

When will it be launched ?

I recall to read someone said the very first one will be launched within this July, but can't remember where it's or who said it


The first Type 055's shipborne radar system is undergoing test, which represents the highest level of China or even the world's shipborne radar system. 2017.05.01

https://twitter.com/x/status/858918653638594560

The director of NRIET says that the radar systems under development (for Type 055 ?) are among the most advanced ones in the world.

https://twitter.com/x/status/858704283029590017

*NRIET = Nanjing Research Institute of Electronics Technology

 

[j20blackdragon]

updates

I just want to remind everybody that the 055's integrated mast provides a 360 degree continuous X-band AESA and electronic warfare suite capability that's neatly integrated into the mast itself.

Meanwhile, the Arleigh Burke Flight III will be using the inferior AN/SPQ-9B mechanically rotating, non-phased array radar as the X-band component of AMDR. The old-school AN/SPG-62 mechanically steered fire control radars will also be retained on the ship.

That means the 055 will achieve the Dual Band Radar (DBR) capability before the Arleigh Burke Flight III or Zumwalt-class.

 

[grey boy 2]

 

[Dungeness]

This is how 055 will be launched:

 

[samsara]

This is how 055 will be launched:

May someone please enlighten me more about the "black base box" at the sketch? I know it's some kind of "floating building platform" seeing the adjacent picture but wanna know more thx.

 

[Dungeness]

May someone please enlighten me more about the "black base box" at the sketch? I know it's some kind of "floating building platform" seeing the adjacent picture but wanna know more thx.

Launching a ship with a floating box platform is Patented by China Ship Building 9th Design Bureau and Jiangnan Ship Building Co. I did not find any other ship builder using this method to launch a ship.

Here is their patent application:

https://www.google.com/patents/CN101380992B?cl=en

 

[Shotgunner51]

May someone please enlighten me more about the "black base box" at the sketch?

Launching a ship with a floating box platform is Patented by China Ship Building 9th Design Bureau and Jiangnan Ship Building Co. I did not find any other ship builder using this method to launch a ship.

Here is their patent application:

https://www.google.com/patents/CN101380992B?cl=en

Good to see Chinese R&D guys using patent to protect their IP!

P.S.: We can know how hard translation is! Yes, in fact language is one major barrier between Chinese innovators and international patents (e.g. USPTO, PCT). To overcome this, WIPO develops a cutting-edge neural machine translation technology to render highly technical patent documents into a second language in a style and syntax that more closely mirrors common usage, out-performing other translation tools built on previous technologies. WIPO has initially “trained” the new technology to translate Chinese, Japanese and Korean patent documents into English. Patent applications in those languages accounted for some 55% of worldwide filings in 2014.
http://www.wipo.int/pressroom/en/articles/2016/article_0014.html

 

[Speeder 2]

That is one of the most beautiful elegant ship I have seen, and at 17k tons this thing is an absolute BEAST, a gorgeous beast nonetheless.

That thing looks horrible, man!

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BTW, is 055 the most lethal destroyer (or cruiser) in the world right now?