Type 055 DDG News & Discussions

[Han Patriot]

Also got news new large shipyard name CSSC Guangzhou Longxue Shipbuilding at Longxue Island, GuangZhou, will start built large Destroyer on 2018 for South PLAN, but not sure is 055 or 052D/E. heard Guangzhou huangPu shipyard (built PLAN frigate only due to small space) will move to this Longxue Island shipyard since merge to CSSC.

It's good to diversify 052D/055 productions from North to South, the skillset and industrial can have multiple centers of excellence. Even US cannot out build us in naval ships.

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

It's good to diversify 052D/055 productions from North to South, the skillset and industrial can have multiple centers of excellence. Even US cannot out build us in naval ships.

Next step should be a Type 095 assembly line in the JNCX.

 

[lmjiao]

Next step should be a Type 095 assembly line in the JNCX.

I disagree. The new production line in Huludao can produce 3 type 095 simutanously, quite enough for current requirement.

Unless we are preparing Word War III, then I don't think this necessary.

Also got news new large shipyard name CSSC Guangzhou Longxue Shipbuilding at Longxue Island, GuangZhou, will start built large Destroyer on 2018 for South PLAN, but not sure is 055 or 052D/E. heard Guangzhou huangPu shipyard (built PLAN frigate only due to small space) will move to this Longxue Island shipyard since merge to CSSC.

Really? Do we acturally need so much production power?

Even single JNCX in shanghai can produce half Royal Navy every year. Dalian and Shanghai together can launch at lease 4 DDG every year, maybe more than 8 in full speed.

I don't see why. For employments in Guangdong?

I think current PLAN do not need more than 40 DDG, because we don't have so much CVs for the DDGs to protect.

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

I disagree. The new production line in Huludao can produce 3 type 095 simutanously, quite enough for current requirement.

Unless we are preparing Word War III, then I don't think this necessary.


Really? Do we acturally need so much production power?

Even single JNCX in shanghai can produce half Royal Navy every year. Dalian and Shanghai together can launch at lease 4 DDG every year, maybe more than 8 in full speed.

I don't see why. For employments in Guangdong?

I think current PLAN do not need more than 40 DDG, because we don't have so much CVs for the DDGs to protect.

The new factory can produce 3 Type 096 or 6 Type 095 simultaneously, but consider that we need to outproduce the US, it is better to set a production line somewhere else. The US got two production lines.

 

[lmjiao]

The new factory can produce 3 Type 096 or 6 Type 095 simultaneously, but consider that we need to outproduce the US, it is better to set a production line somewhere else. The US got two production lines.

OK, let's wait news and confirmation from CIA.

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

OK, let's wait news and confirmation from CIA.

The CIA doesn't know jackshit about China.

 

[lmjiao]

The CIA doesn't know jackshit about China.

OK. Let go back to the type 055 topic.

It can be easily checked after two or three years that whether the Type 055/052 will be under construction in Guangzhou. I will come back to this thread then.

If Type 055 is really under construction in Guangzhou, I feel really worried. Because unless our leader highly estimate the possibility of war against the US, we don't need to build so many warships so fast.

If you are right, the entire world is risky.

 

[sheik]

OK. Let go back to the type 055 topic.

It can be easily checked after two or three years that whether the Type 055/052 will be under construction in Guangzhou. I will come back to this thread then.

If Type 055 is really under construction in Guangzhou, I feel really worried. Because unless our leader highly estimate the possibility of war against the US, we don't need to build so many warships so fast.

If you are right, the entire world is risky.

I think China's leaders did highly estimate the possibility of war against the US since long time ago.
Otherwise we cannot explain why China built the 2nd batch of 052C right before building the much improved version 052D. Actually the last two 052C were even commissioned later then the 1st 052D. I think the only reason was that China's leaders did not even want to wait for a little longer, because they felt the danger and it's important to have a few destroyers in service earlier even if they are less powerful.
However, whether there will be a war is not determined by China. It's Uncle Sam's call, but I am afraid the best chance for him is forever gone.

 

[cnleio]

I think China's leaders did highly estimate the possibility of war against the US since long time ago.
Otherwise we cannot explain why China built the 2nd batch of 052C right before building the much improved version 052D. Actually the last two 052C were even commissioned later then the 1st 052D. I think the only reason was that China's leaders did not even want to wait for a little longer, because they felt the danger and it's important to have a few destroyers in service earlier even if they are less powerful.
However, whether there will be a war is not determined by China. It's Uncle Sam's call, but I am afraid the best chance for him is forever gone.

LOL ... except Mao, other CCP leaders in BeiJing not like war with U.S.A, the only thing i can 100% sure, especiallly these DCD no way to war, that easily hurt their interests, today BeiJing like money more than a war.

 

[Pangu]

Its better to have a gun & not use it, then not having a gun but need to use one. Until Taiwan is reunited, there is no rest.

 

[lmjiao]

I think China's leaders did highly estimate the possibility of war against the US since long time ago.
Otherwise we cannot explain why China built the 2nd batch of 052C right before building the much improved version 052D. Actually the last two 052C were even commissioned later then the 1st 052D. I think the only reason was that China's leaders did not even want to wait for a little longer, because they felt the danger and it's important to have a few destroyers in service earlier even if they are less powerful.
However, whether there will be a war is not determined by China. It's Uncle Sam's call, but I am afraid the best chance for him is forever gone.

OK, in this case, we can expect about 20 type 055 DDG within one decade.

 

[Place Of Space]

I think, that Cost is for "Hull" only paid to Shipyards.

But all Weapons and Electronics Equipment onboard that vessels paid for Different contractor is not included.

In this case you need to add another half.
1.5 x 0.83 billion USD = 1.25 billion USD for Type 055 Heavy Destroyer.

Still much Cost Efficient compare to western shipyards.
Anyway, Money is not a Problem for China.

Money is a big problem for China, bro. In next 20 years, we have to pay for 350 million of the old's retirement pension. Hope all the expenditure in military can make some money for us.

 

[waja2000]

I disagree. The new production line in Huludao can produce 3 type 095 simutanously, quite enough for current requirement.
Really? Do we acturally need so much production power?
Even single JNCX in shanghai can produce half Royal Navy every year. Dalian and Shanghai together can launch at lease 4 DDG every year, maybe more than 8 in full speed.
I don't see why. For employments in Guangdong?
I think current PLAN do not need more than 40 DDG, because we don't have so much CVs for the DDGs to protect.

Well all shipyard try get business from gov, from other view, Production in GuangDong is good for PLAN for south fleet, close to there navy base easy for arrangement/training, short time/more easy to get maintenance after commission. it may not get big contract like in Dalian/JNCX, but built some low quantity is good experience for GuangDong shipyard.
Also since US also start produce more destroyer, i think PLAN will adjust the plan too.
DDG role may not limited for Escort CVs, but it also can use as patrol job on his own or together with other small DDG or Frigate. also future new LPH also need protect too.
anyway it just news.

 

[waja2000]

I think China's leaders did highly estimate the possibility of war against the US since long time ago.
Otherwise we cannot explain why China built the 2nd batch of 052C right before building the much improved version 052D. Actually the last two 052C were even commissioned later then the 1st 052D. I think the only reason was that China's leaders did not even want to wait for a little longer, because they felt the danger and it's important to have a few destroyers in service earlier even if they are less powerful.
However, whether there will be a war is not determined by China. It's Uncle Sam's call, but I am afraid the best chance for him is forever gone.

Yep, specially 1996 Taiwan crisis really a lesson to China. that why china built new warship is with powerful arm/weapon compare to other Asian warship and for prepare future war with Japan/US Navy. and they china know to get back Taiwan, must make strong military power to block US assist in Taiwan, even European make warship also no have this level of firepower.

 

[Stuttgart001]

LOL ... except Mao, other CCP leaders in BeiJing not like war with U.S.A, the only thing i can 100% sure, especiallly these DCD no way to war, that easily hurt their interests, today BeiJing like money more than a war.

According to your theotry, Soviet Union's leaders are so peace lover, cause they never launched a war against USA.