Turkish Politics & Internal Affairs

[CAN_TR]

Nice

https://twitter.com/x/status/1060283250675871745

 

[Yatağanlı]

Nice

https://twitter.com/x/status/1060283250675871745

Don't trust Sputnik too much. Then they have to multiply by 3 in 10 years?

 

[CAN_TR]

Don't trust Sputnik too much. Then they have to multiply by 3 in 10 years?

8-8,5 Million in 10 years is not so unlikley.

There are official 3,5 million Syrians in Turkey.

 

[xenon54 out]

8-8,5 Million in 10 years is not so unlikley.

There are official 3,5 million Syrians in Turkey.

Who said AKP will survive another 10 years? At least for Turkeys sake i dont wish it.

 

[Saddam Hussein]

Who said AKP will survive another 10 years? At least for Turkeys sake i dont wish it.

Why is everyone here so much against Arabs in Turkey (Istanbul) when there are millions of Turks in Germany, Netherlands and other places. And these are mostly Turks of lower economic class the villagers whom aren't contributing too much, Turkey didn't export its brightest to Europe

 

[Fenasi Kerim]

Why is everyone here so much against Arabs in Turkey (Istanbul) when there are millions of Turks in Germany, Netherlands and other places. And these are mostly Turks of lower economic class the villagers whom aren't contributing too much, Turkey didn't export its brightest to Europe

Because Turks don’t mass harras women on the streets like Arabs do. Because in Germany Turkish men don’t get beaten up weekly for harrasing women, in Turkey Arabs get beaten up daily because of this. In Turkey beaches are polluted with Arab shisha smell. In Turkey streets are polluted with Arabic writing on shop windows. In Turkey Arabs pay no tax and benefit from the state while Turks die for Turkey in Syrian lands.

And Turkish areas in Europe are pretty civilised compared to Arab & African no go Sharia-Herion zones.

 

[xenon54 out]

Why is everyone here so much against Arabs in Turkey (Istanbul) when there are millions of Turks in Germany, Netherlands and other places. And these are mostly Turks of lower economic class the villagers whom aren't contributing too much, Turkey didn't export its brightest to Europe

1. Turkish migrants went to Europe legally invited by Europe.
2. They were not an economic burden but self sustaining workforce much needed at the times.
3. Most Syrian went illegally into Turkey, considered guests and are supported because there is war in Syria.
4. Turkey cant afford feeding millions on social wellfare in the long run when economy isnt doing well already.
5. There is no reason for Syrians to keep demanding welfare once the war is over
6. Its not about them being Arabs or Turks being racist, its just that Turkey cant afford this burden when its not necessary anymore.

Why are you offended? Turkey and Turks have been generous to Syrians but instead of hearing thanks you ask stupid questions, make comparisons between apples and oranges and imply things.

 

[CAN_TR]

Why is everyone here so much against Arabs in Turkey (Istanbul) when there are millions of Turks in Germany, Netherlands and other places. And these are mostly Turks of lower economic class the villagers whom aren't contributing too much, Turkey didn't export its brightest to Europe

That's maybe right, but these Villagers were honest and hardworking people.
They worked harder and longer than the natives + under worser conditions.

While Turkish immigrants contributed to the economies by working and tax paying, Syrian parasites suck 40 Billion Dollars + paying no taxes + free education/healthcare...

 

[Saddam Hussein]

1. Turkish migrants went to Europe legally invited by Europe.
2. They were not an economic burden but self sustaining workforce much needed at the times.
3. Most Syrian went illegally into Turkey, considered guests and are supported because there is war in Syria.
4. Turkey cant afford feeding millions on social wellfare in the long run when economy isnt doing well already.
5. There is no reason for Syrians to keep demanding welfare once the war is over
6. Its not about them being Arabs or Turks being racist, its just that Turkey cant afford this burden when its not necessary anymore.

Why are you offended? Turkey and Turks have been generous to Syrians but instead of hearing thanks you ask stupid questions, make comparisons between apples and oranges and imply things.

No need to feed them, they will work when forced to work. Some may not know this but in Arab culture, working (lower class jobs) is seen as shameful and degrading in social status hence they will try to avoid this at all cost, it is not that they cannot work it is that they choose not to. For example, working at a restaurant is seen as shameful. It's the opposite of the west where not working gets one shamed. This is why Arab states, even those with large populations tend to bring in Asians to do lower class work for them. Even Iraq with its 40 million people (not a tiny rich state) brings in Asians to do street cleaning etc.

I understand if the dislike is about them wanting to live off state handouts, no one should be like that as these types of people are a burden. I've met Syrians in the Netherlands who were given opportunities to work at good companies, they don't plan to stay given they noticed life is harder than what they expected and some whom are just coming to live off of the state. These idiots are a waste whom not only pull down the economy, they do not produce, do not contribute to their own home country by taking advantage of becoming a skilled worker.

 

[HannibalBarca]

No need to feed them, they will work when forced to work. Some may not know this but in Arab culture, working (lower class jobs) is seen as shameful and degrading in social status hence they will try to avoid this at all cost, it is not that they cannot work it is that they choose not to. For example, working at a restaurant is seen as shameful. It's the opposite of the west where not working gets one shamed. This is why Arab states, even those with large populations tend to bring in Asians to do lower class work for them. Even Iraq with its 40 million people (not a tiny rich state) brings in Asians to do street cleaning etc.

I understand if the dislike is about them wanting to live off state handouts, no one should be like that as these types of people are a burden. I've met Syrians in the Netherlands who were given opportunities to work at good companies, they don't plan to stay given they noticed life is harder than what they expected and some whom are just coming to live off of the state. These idiots are a waste whom not only pull down the economy, they do not produce, do not contribute to their own home country by taking advantage of becoming a skilled worker.

GCC Arab culture.

 

[xenon54 out]

No need to feed them, they will work when forced to work. Some may not know this but in Arab culture, working (lower class jobs) is seen as shameful and degrading in social status hence they will try to avoid this at all cost, it is not that they cannot work it is that they choose not to. For example, working at a restaurant is seen as shameful. It's the opposite of the west where not working gets one shamed.

I understand if the dislike is about them wanting to live off state handouts, no one should be like that as these types of people are a burden. I've met Syrians in the Netherlands who were given opportunities to work at good companies, they don't plan to stay given they noticed life is harder than what they expected and some whom are just coming to live off of the state. These idiots are a waste whom not only pull down the economy, they do not produce, do not contribute to their own home country by taking advantage of becoming a skilled worker.

Look im not here to offend you but im telling you the following just so you know what the deal is. My region in Turkey produces Hazelnuts, its a hard job with 12-14 hours work per day in slopy plantages under summer heat, a ton of workforce is needed in harvest time. Traditionally its semi nomadic Kurds from SE Turkey who come to the region in the summer to earn money by helping in the plantages.
In the first year after Syrians came people started giving them jobs but they didnt do their joby correctly even thought its not hard to understand how, they probably didnt really want to do the job, this costed a lot money to the land owners because their Hazelnut trees got damaged while doing bad work and lots of nuts lost because of not properly harvesting. The next year not a single landlord hired Syrians anymore.

You compare it to our ancestors but when my grandfather came here freshly he worked 12 hours in a restaurant as a dish washer.
You see why Turkey neither needs nor can afford that many Syrians?

 

[Saddam Hussein]

GCC Arab culture.

It's not just GCC, it's also in Iraq and the Syrian would do the same thing once presented with the opportunity, some in Baghdad have maids nowadays from Asia to do cooking and cleaning for them. GCC Arabs interact with other Arabs especially nowadays on social media, cultures interact which isn't hard since they're all Arabs. Do you think Syrians or Iraqis would not be like the stereotype GCC Arabs if their governments enable them to? It's already happening on a small scale in Iraq especially with the middle class in the capital city, they're no different once showered with money.

A few decades ago when working/workers were praised in some of these states during socialist regimes (no i'm not advocating that) people weren't this way, women were not rendered useless in the workforce and human output was higher. Even those that left to the west from that generation either became hard workers or were well educated, today it's not the same.

Look im not here to offend you but im telling you the following just so you know what the deal is. My region in Turkey produces Hazelnuts, its a hard job with 12-14 hours work per day in slopy plantages under summer heat, a ton of workforce is needed in harvest time. Traditionally its semi nomadic Kurds from SE Turkey who come to the region in the summer to earn money by helping in the plantages.
In the first year after Syrians came people started giving them jobs but they didnt do their joby correctly even thought its not hard to understand how, they probably didnt really want to do the job, this costed a lot money to the land owners because their Hazelnut trees got damaged while doing bad work and lots of nuts lost because of not properly harvesting. The next year not a single landlord hired Syrians anymore.

You compare it to our ancestors but when my grandfather came here freshly he worked 12 hours in a restaurant as a dish washer.
You see why Turkey neither needs nor can afford that many Syrians?

They want to make it to the west, just open the border and flood Eastern Europe. They hate Muslims and are in dire need of some more Muslims. I took it as a problem with Arabs, if it is due to their economic activity I understand

 

[HannibalBarca]

It's not just GCC, it's also in Iraq and the Syrian would do the same thing once presented with the opportunity, some in Baghdad have maids nowadays from Asia to do cooking and cleaning for them. GCC Arabs interact with other Arabs especially nowadays on social media, cultures interact which isn't hard since they're all Arabs. Do you think Syrians or Iraqis would not be like the stereotype GCC Arabs if their governments enable them to? It's already happening on a small scale in Iraq especially with the middle class in the capital city, they're no different once showered with money.

A few decades ago when working/workers were praised in some of these states during socialist regimes (no i'm not advocating that) people weren't this way, women were not rendered useless in the workforce and human output was higher. Even those that left to the west from that generation either became hard workers or were well educated, today it's not the same.


They want to make it to the west, just open the border and flood Eastern Europe. They hate Muslims and are in dire need of some more Muslims. I took it as a problem with Arabs, if it is due to their economic activity I understand

If given the opportunity. YES.
But The great great majority doesn't have it.
The few Syrians I know or Knew, Are hard workers, respectful.
The few Iraqis I got to see in my short life, are also Hard workers, And that not only outside their country but also in it.

But I do know that a minority, are indeed cancerous, We've got them in TN also.
The problem is... The bad memory/experience stick more...
In France, North African immigrants back in the days, were called to be Lazy... While they literally Helped building/Sustaining France growth after the War... They did every job, that a French national refused to do... Worked 12+ hours per day... Worked in Winter or Holidays, when his French counterpart choose to stay at home... And got paid less than the others...

Same goes for the Turks experience, I understand their concern/Experience, But I also know that the Great great majority of Syrians in Turkey, work peacefully and try to respect as mucha s they can the people/society around. And I also understand that Bad apples exist...

 

[Islamic faith&Secularism]

If given the opportunity. YES.
But The great great majority doesn't have it.
The few Syrians I know or Knew, Are hard workers, respectful.
The few Iraqis I got to see in my short life, are also Hard workers, And that not only outside their country but also in it.

But I do know that a minority, are indeed cancerous, We've got them in TN also.
The problem is... The bad memory/experience stick more...
In France, North African immigrants back in the days, were called to be Lazy... While they literally Helped building/Sustaining France growth after the War... They did every job, that a French national refused to do... Worked 12+ hours per day... Worked in Winter or Holidays, when his French counterpart choose to stay at home... And got paid less than the others...

Same goes for the Turks experience, I understand their concern/Experience, But I also know that the Great great majority of Syrians in Turkey, work peacefully and try to respect as mucha s they can the people/society around. And I also understand that Bad apples exist...

Syrians will be sent back, given citizenships to be revoked regardless of who rules Turkey at the moment.

Socially, Culturally and Economically Syrians are different, need money and time to get on the same level; the problem is why 22 Arab countries do nothing but Turks do everything and also fight and die in Syria for Syrians.

The past of us with Arab treachery is not forgettable experience, given Syrians sponging off Turks while their country at war backs the past up among Turks more and more today.

 

[Oublious]

No need to feed them, they will work when forced to work. Some may not know this but in Arab culture, working (lower class jobs) is seen as shameful and degrading in social status hence they will try to avoid this at all cost, it is not that they cannot work it is that they choose not to. For example, working at a restaurant is seen as shameful. It's the opposite of the west where not working gets one shamed. This is why Arab states, even those with large populations tend to bring in Asians to do lower class work for them. Even Iraq with its 40 million people (not a tiny rich state) brings in Asians to do street cleaning etc.

I understand if the dislike is about them wanting to live off state handouts, no one should be like that as these types of people are a burden. I've met Syrians in the Netherlands who were given opportunities to work at good companies, they don't plan to stay given they noticed life is harder than what they expected and some whom are just coming to live off of the state. These idiots are a waste whom not only pull down the economy, they do not produce, do not contribute to their own home country by taking advantage of becoming a skilled worker.

That is stupid, i have worked in my youth until i was 25 several places from washing dishes to mcdonalds. Until i finished my school, i have started from the bottom and now i am directing people. With that mentality you will reach nothing.