Turkish Politics & Internal Affairs

[Baybars Han]

AKP lost the elections Erdoğan won.

Without coalition of MHP Erdoğan would of have got below 50%

 

[Reichsmarschall]

long live President Erdogan

 

[Kiryu]

The main winners are the nationalists. IYI party and MHP both passed the threshold and the AKP will depend on the MHP in parliament.
The CHP won't be in government until they reach out beyond their traditional base. Kilicdaroglu should step down and Ince should be given the chance now to lead the party to see if he can take them further.

MHP seem to be the surprise winners. Bahceli played his cards right and they will be in government through coalition despite the split in the party. He will now have Erdogan working with him. But. Erdogan will eventually turn on them down the road. He can't use the gulenist card or the pkk friendly card like they do with iyi and chp but the akp is only working with the MHP because they need them for the time being. Let's see in 5 years time.
For this parliament IYI party will keep the MHPs nationalist credentials in check because MHP wont want to lose support to them if they appear to compromise on patriotic issues while in turn the MHP will keep the akp in check. Nationalists win.

 

[Orez]

The main winners are the nationalists.

This! Te HDP was happy with election because they get over 10% but they don't realize that for the first time since decades, the nationalist are over 20% in the parlement.

I will not be supprised if MHP and IYI party become one, saying **** you over to AKP and CHP some years latter.

AKP need MHP for the parlement, which means they cannot change the law or constitution alone which is good thing. Erdogan is a president.... still good thing because no other leader has his popularity. Ince has made a name for itself, so maybe he can challenge KK or even create a new party.

The only loser was CHP.

The result of this election was predictable (even before the election I said AKP will lose the majority but Erdogan will win even if he has to go in second tour) and satisfying for me.

 

[Deliorman]

CHP has no future until Kemal Kilicdaroglu just leaves the party and retires. With that a leader like Ince should come and just clean the whole party from all the anti- Turkish elements that occupied it from within. CHP should go back to it’s roots and embrace the real values of Ataturk- Turkish patriotism and a better future for the Turks in education, science, industry, military and etc.

The fact is that Ince even as a representative of CHP managed to get 4 000 000 votes more than his party + most CHP voters and Turks hate KK. All that got to say CHP’s leadership that people don’t like them... even their voters hate Kilicdaroglu so he got to go together with all the libtard shits.

CHP doesn’t even represent their own voters nowadays but the idiot Kemal yesterday said that AKP lost the elections not him. Guy is living in his own world.

 

[Glass]

https://www.dailysabah.com/turkey/2018/06/27/borders-reopened-for-returning-syrian-refugees

ridiculous

 

[HannibalBarca]

https://www.dailysabah.com/turkey/2018/06/27/borders-reopened-for-returning-syrian-refugees

ridiculous

Why Ridiculous? if he wants to come back to TR after living in for 6 years,what's the problem?
What did you expect? To return in a Land where there is no job... and no stability...
When it's not ASSad/RUS who are bombing... it's PKK car bombs... and if it's not them it's militia playing who can get the next door road intersection...

Tbh... things are going to be even worse in North Syria... Daraa region is under ASSad/RUS assault... And those people will have to go somewhere... SInce neither Israel and retarded Jordan will take them... So they will be transferred to the North... Millions will move again...

 

[Deliorman]

Why Ridiculous? if he wants to come back to TR after living in for 6 years,what's the problem?
What did you expect? To return in a Land where there is no job... and no stability...
When it's not ASSad/RUS who are bombing... it's PKK car bombs... and if it's not them it's militia playing who can get the next door road intersection...

Tbh... things are going to be even worse in North Syria... Daraa region is under ASSad/RUS assault... And those people will have to go somewhere... SInce neither Israel and retarded Jordan will take them... So they will be transferred to the North... Millions will move again...

If it’s safe enough for them to go to Syria for the holidays by the tens of thousands then it’s safe enough for them to stay there and not to come back to Turkey again. It is as simple as that.

Turkey is turned into a place where everyone can come and do whatever he wants while Turks are second class citizens in their own country. Syrians are getting housing, education, medical treatment and getting absolutely everything for free from the State. They are opening shops and businesses for which they don’t pay taxes, they sell contraband stuff and all kinds of illegal substances you can imagine. Crime rates are rising, streets are much unsafer and unpleasant with them Syrians on the streets loitering and harassing people.

I know that you are an Arab and you will say everything to defend your Syrian brothers but please don’t. You won’t convince nobody who thinks otherwise anyway.

 

[Glass]

We have now 2 right wing parties in parliament .. things will get interesting with the refugees

 

[CAN_TR]

Why Ridiculous? if he wants to come back to TR after living in for 6 years,what's the problem?
What did you expect? To return in a Land where there is no job... and no stability...
When it's not ASSad/RUS who are bombing... it's PKK car bombs... and if it's not them it's militia playing who can get the next door road intersection...

Tbh... things are going to be even worse in North Syria... Daraa region is under ASSad/RUS assault... And those people will have to go somewhere... SInce neither Israel and retarded Jordan will take them... So they will be transferred to the North... Millions will move again...

50% of Syria is liberated from SAA and safe.
Al Bab, Jarablus and Afrin are safe.

"What's the problem"?
You like it if someones country get invaded by "lazy, traitorous and parasitic" cowards in the right age for Military service?

Enough Turkey is not a refugee camp for Kurds, Afghans, Pakistanis and Arabs.

 

[HannibalBarca]

If it’s safe enough for them to go to Syria for the holidays by the tens of thousands then it’s safe enough for them to stay there and not to come back to Turkey again. It is as simple as that.

Turkey is turned into a place where everyone can come and do whatever he wants while Turks are second class citizens in their own country. Syrians are getting housing, education, medical treatment and getting absolutely everything for free from the State. They are opening shops and businesses for which they don’t pay taxes, they sell contraband stuff and all kinds of illegal substances you can imagine. Crime rates are rising, streets are much unsafer and unpleasant with them Syrians on the streets loitering and harassing people.

I know that you are an Arab and you will say everything to defend your Syrian brothers but please don’t. You won’t convince nobody who thinks otherwise anyway.

I understand your pov, even though i don't agree with it.
Labeling and putting every failure on refugees is also not objective.
And there is no wrong to the host country to help those refugees, they lost everything after all... Most don't have a house to come back... No families... And no future, except the country who gave them shelter...

And remember, you are not in their position... And you will never wish to be...

Yes Turkey is doing a lot and many more than any of her neighbour... That's a fact and none can deny it.

As for the bad apples among them... Its simple... Track and send it to prison, simple as that. The great great majority of refugees are simple ppl... Who try their best to survive.. and peacefully.

Whatever I'm Arab or not... I will have the same mind towards those who seek a better future, a safe place from war.

And, last, going back for few days back to your country, to see those you couldn't see for years, doesn't mean it's safe... And even less if you have kids with you.

Tunisia gave shelter to almost 2mil Libyans since 2011 for a 12mil pop... With no foreign money.. No help... Not even speaking about sub Saharans migrants... And things where also hard for many, like a 30% rent rise... Overall food rise... And so on... And yet we accepted it... We understood, is for a time. Right now many choose to go back and others to settle in... With the bad and good...

Anyway. Gl for all... Just don't turn into the likes of some EU countries/people... Who are using that same opinion on Turks and Muslims in EU...

 

[kartal1]

I understand your pov, even though i don't agree with it.
Labeling and putting every failure on refugees is also not objective.
And there is no wrong to the host country to help those refugees, they lost everything after all... Most don't have a house to come back... No families... And no future, except the country who gave them shelter...

And remember, you are not in their position... And you will never wish to be...

Yes Turkey is doing a lot and many more than any of her neighbour... That's a fact and none can deny it.

As for the bad apples among them... Its simple... Track and send it to prison, simple as that. The great great majority of refugees are simple ppl... Who try their best to survive.. and peacefully.

Whatever I'm Arab or not... I will have the same mind towards those who seek a better future, a safe place from war.

And, last, going back for few days back to your country, to see those you couldn't see for years, doesn't mean it's safe... And even less if you have kids with you.

Tunisia gave shelter to almost 2mil Libyans since 2011 for a 12mil pop... With no foreign money.. No help... Not even speaking about sub Saharans migrants... And things where also hard for many, like a 30% rent rise... Overall food rise... And so on... And yet we accepted it... We understood, is for a time. Right now many choose to go back and others to settle in... With the bad and good...

Anyway. Gl for all... Just don't turn into the likes of some EU countries/people... Who are using that same opinion on Turks and Muslims in EU...

The EU did fatal mistakes that I wish Turkey not to do. With its multiculturalism BS some of the EU countries are threatened by other ethnic groups and after some decades their ethnicity could perish and their country becoming a Muslim one opposed to their culture and traditions. That is the main issue that is threatening the future of the EU as an union. Millions refugees from all over the world are drinking the money of the western European states social help system.

In Germany Turks and Kurds are fighting each other making troubles all over the place and one of the biggest organized crime organizations in Germany are Turkish and Kurdish. Kurdish mafia is maybe the biggest seller of poison to the German youth from the 80s to our days.

We did similar mistake by taking so many Kurdish refugees at the past running from Saddam and it resulted spreading of the PKK ideology and rising rebellion, rising requirement for PKK also polluting the local Kurds.

When the war stop I want the majority of Syrians in their homes in Syria. I don't want possible ISIS, YPG or other supporters of any radical and extremist ideologies in Turkey and I for sure don't want to see them fighting on Turkish soil. Turkey did enough for them already. Turkey is liberating land for them to live in security in their homelands, Turkey is building refugee camps both in Syrian but also in Turkish territory. Turks and Arabs can be close in some fields but also they are a lot different. Speaking especially for Syrians they are famous in Turkey for one of the best smugglers, merchants, sellers of fake goods and also greedy people doing nothing for free.
Syria before the war was a hub for cheap stuff for the Turks with unknown roots. Their reputation is really not good and also their crime rate in Turkey is extremely high. At the beginning of the crisis there was media blackout over that issue while now more and more medias are reporting the cases and also social media users are more and more active. I prefer using their skills in warfare than letting them use it against Turkish citizens. Integration of Arab people is bullshit. This is also valid for Balkan and Gypsy people.

 

[CrimsonFury]

Refugees should be turned back at the border. If they get agressive then they should be shot. If the EU cries then Erdo should put all of them in cargo planes and send them to Brussels. I'm fed up with fucking refugees in my country.

 

[HannibalBarca]

Refugees should be turned back at the border. If they get agressive then they should be shot. If the EU cries then Erdo should put all of them in cargo planes and send them to Brussels. I'm fed up with fucking refugees in my country.

Yeah lets shoot them... As for the kids, crucifixion should be used...would be interesting to see them cry... Or is it too much?

 

[CrimsonFury]

Yeah lets shoot them... As for the kids, crucifixion should be used...would be interesting to see them cry... Or is it too much?

As long as they stay outside the Republic I couldn't care less.