Turkey set to invade Syria; US to remove forces from area

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Ukraine isn't part of NATO as such we were under no obligation to go to war with Russia over them. Why will NATO risk a big bloddy war with Russia over Ukraine lost Crimea?

Then wth the US,The UK,France and Germany provoked Ukraine against Russia ?

Ukraine has no power to match with Russia but stupid Ukrainian Politicans believed the US,The UK,France and Germany to protect Ukraine against Russia

even in 2008 Russia-Georgia conflict was a good example not to believe treacherous US,The UK,France and Germany

Believe me if Turkey was just a normal non NATO country like say Iran or Georgia or Kazakhstan and Turkey did what they did to Russia, then the consequences would have been very different from what happened.

Without NATO , The TURKS fought more than 100 times against Europe , Russia , Iran , even many times in the same time

TURKS never lost in Turkish soil .... Pathetic Russians sucked in weak and poor Afghanistan and Chechenya and Russians are dreaming to fight with the Turks in Turkish soil

btw if Turkey was not part of NATO , then Turkey would has its own nuclear weapons

 

[PakAlp]

Settle Syrians with already inhabited Kurds?

I hope they settle the Syrians on government land rather than on land which belongs to Kurdish Syrians. At the moment YPG overtook alot of new areas so Turkey will take that back.

 

[Glass]

btw, for the NATO lovers here

https://twitter.com/x/status/1181558079848095744

https://twitter.com/x/status/1181302241497669633

^what they wrote is true.

 

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FSA was created to take over Damscasus and replace Assad government with Turkish puppet

in 2010 ERDOGAN and ASSAD were good friends ... even Syrian citizens had visa-free to visit Turkey

Turkey , Syria and Egypt were good friends in the region

but the US,The UK,Israel and France destroyed relationship between Turkey and Syria -- Turkey and Egypt

Turkey 11 time warned ASSAD as friendly for democratic reforms in Syria or the US,The UK and France will attack Syria as like Libya

but Iran , Iran backed terrorists groups and ASSAD have started killing Syrian People to protect dictotarial regime

and FSA was created by ex Syrian Army soldiers to protect Syrian People being slaughtered by terrorist ASSAD Regime+Russia +Iran and Iran backed terrorist groups

So what is the difference between FSA terroristst and YPG? Except that YPG didnt occupy several regions of Turkey while killing 100.000 Turkish soldiers?

FSA = created by ex Syrian Army soldiers
YPG = created by PKK which recognized as terror organization by the US , The EU , Iran , Iraq , Syria

FSA = fighting for protection Syrian People and Syria against terrorist ASSAD , Iran and Russia
YPG = fighting for destroying Syria's territorial integrity for American-Israeli interests

FSA = has no plan to terrorize Turkey,Syria,Iraq and Iran
YPG/PKK = has plan to terrorize Turkey,Syria,Iraq and Iran



YPG=PKK
Turkey is fighting against PKK=YPG Terrorism since 1985 and Turkey lost 40.000+ people and over $400 billion to fight against PKK=YPG Terrorism since 1985

Sure. Russia never used nuclear weapons in Afghanistan and Chechnya.

that means without nuclear weapons pathetic Russia can not match with even weak and poor Afghanistan and Chechnya

 

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in 2010 ERDOGAN and ASSAD were good friends ... even Syrian citizens had visa-free to visit Turkey

Turkey , Syria and Egypt were good friends in the region

but the US,The UK,Israel and France destroyed relationship between Turkey and Syria -- Turkey and Egypt

Turkey 11 time warned ASSAD as friendly for democratic reforms in Syria or the US,The UK and France will attack Syria as like Libya

but Iran , Iran backed terrorists groups and ASSAD have started killing Syrian People to protect dictotarial regime

and FSA was created by ex Syrian Army soldiers to protect Syrian People being slaughtered by terrorist ASSAD Regime+Russia +Iran and Iran backed terrorist groups





FSA = created by ex Syrian Army soldiers
YPG = created by PKK which recognized as terror organization by the US , The EU , Iran , Iraq , Syria

FSA = fighting for protection Syrian People and Syria against terrorist ASSAD , Iran and Russia
YPG = fighting for destroying Syria's territorial integrity for American-Israeli interests

FSA = has no plan to terrorize Turkey,Syria,Iraq and Iran
YPG/PKK = has plan to terrorize Turkey,Syria,Iraq and Iran



YPG=PKK
Turkey is fighting against PKK=YPG Terrorism since 1985 and Turkey lost 40.000+ people and over $400 billion to fight against PKK=YPG Terrorism since 1985

FSA recognized as terrorist organization by Syria, Russia, Iran. So what?

YPG is fighting to protect Kurdish people. YPG is not invading other countries and occuping regions there.
FSA is fighting for destroying Syria's territorial integrity for Turkish interests

FSA already terrorizng Syria for many years. FSA killed 100.000 of Syrian soldiers and police and even more civilians. FSA took cities hostage. FSA is acting in partnership with Al-Qaeda and other radical jihadist terrorist groups.

It looks like the differences are not in favor of FSA.

that means without nuclear weapons pathetic Russia can not match with even weak and poor Afghanistan and Chechnya

Russia took complete 100% contol of territory in both Afghanistan and Chechnya.

 

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You don't seem to be consistent in your own remarks. You said earlier that Russia is a mass criminal/murderer regime. Now you are saying they are just fighting "western and Saudi backed" terrorists?
You should make up your mind which one you believe. Lol
Do you even know that almost all of the
groups that your country is supporting are considered terrorists by both Russia and even Iran? . This includes even more so the FSA who has been the biggest rival and opposition to Assad and as such they have been the biggest target of Russian and Iranian forces(together with their Shi'a proxies) in Syria. . Even Turkmens rebels have been labelled terrorists by Moscow. . That's why I said it depends on who you ask.


But you claimed Turkey is holy in all its actions. So why will a holy country be cooperating with "mass murder powers" ?
It's like an "angel"claiming he is untainted by world sin but the next minute you seem him dancing and forming with close partnership with the "devil" himself.
How will you look at that angel if you saw such a thing ?

Erdogan's son Berat Albayrak get tons of money from the dirty business.

Putin: Turkey shot down jet to protect ISIL oil supply
the Russian leader said there was "no doubt" oil from "terrorist-controlled" territory in Syria was making its way across the border into Turkey - a claim immediately denied by Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan.

Why isn’t the media covering Turkish President Erdogan’s ties to ISIS
Turkey’s assistance to ISIS starts right at the top. In 2016, Wikileaks published an archive of 58,000 emails documenting the involvement of Erdogan’s son-in-law, Berat Albayrak, in helping ISIS market oil stolen from Syria and Iraq.

 

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FSA recognized as terrorist organization by Syria, Russia, Iran. So what?

United Nations recognized FSA as legal group ... so what ?

ASSAD , Russia, Iran are same terrorists who killed hundreds of thousands of innocent Syrian People
ASSAD , Russia and Iran are war crimes ......... You have no right to kill hundreds of thousands of innocent Syrian People

YPG is fighting to protect Kurdish people. YPG is not invading other countries and occuping regions there.
FSA is fighting for destroying Syria's territorial integrity for Turkish interests

YPG killed thousands of muslim Kurds who against atheist-communist PKK
YPG forced hundreds of thousands of muslim Kurds to move Turkey and N.Iraq from Syria

even ASSAD Regime called YPG as terrorist organization to destroy Syria's territorial integrity for American-Israeli interests

Turkey doesnt need Syrian territory and Turkey support Syria's territorial integrity
there are over 3,5 millions of Syrian Refugees in Turkey
over 9 million Syrian People support Turkey against criminal murderer ASSAD,Iran,Iran backed terrorist groups , Russia and the US,Israel,the UK,France backed PKK/YPG Terrorists

FSA already terrorizng Syria for many years. FSA killed 100.000 of Syrian soldiers and police and even more civilians. FSA took cities hostage. FSA is acting in partnership with Al-Qaeda and other radical jihadist terrorist groups.

It looks like the differences are not in favor of FSA.

80% of Syrian People is Sunni Muslims
but Nusary origin criminal murderer dctatorial ASSAD Family rule Syria with Russian-Iranian helping since 1970s
Syrian People called ASSAD for democratic reforms but Iran , Iran backed terrorists groups and ASSAD have started killing Syrian People to protect dictotarial regime

Russia and Iran use puppet ASSAD for their interests and ASSAD allowed Russia and Iran to kil over 500.000 Syrian People


and there are no differences between Al-Qaeda and Iran backed terrorist groups such as Hezbollah , Hashdi Shabi who killed Syrian People


btw there were many groups in FSA including the Uae and Saudi Arabia backed radical Salafi groups
but Turkish Army trained 20.000 FSA soldiers are fighting against only PKK/YPG and ISIS Terrorists

Russia took complete 100% contol of territory in both Afghanistan and Chechnya.

Russia never took complete 100% contol of territory in Afghanistan ( Russia sucked in Afghanistan and The US sucked in Vietnam )

and PUTIN bought KADIROV's Chechnya

 

[dBSPL]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1181631829876645888

 

[Dai Toruko]

Russia invaded Georgia in 2008. Has everyone forgot about this? Again it was the same situation; Russia was 'supporting' South Ossetia's 'independence'.

Putin is doing what previous Russian leaders have attempted; he's trying to create a buffer zone of satellite states (Armenia) with puppet governments (Assad) so as to push Turkeys influence back. The Russian people, who are lied to by the state run media, love this because they think it makes their country stronger. Externally, Putin is the aggressor, sending planes and subs close to Western countries. Internally, he plays the 'Russia is being bullied by the West' card.

 

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The consequnces would be the same. Russia did not attack Turkey because Russia is calculalating benefits of its own moves not because anyone is afraid of your joke NATO. Its actually laughable to hear the stroies of these NATO propagandists trying to convince everyone like NATO is some kind of 100% protection against Russia. Like if Russia decided to fcuk or punish certain NATO member, US, UK or France would suddenly decide to sacrifice themselves and all their people and commit suicide attacking Russia

With thousands nukes in Russians' hands, No one will retaliate Russia in large scale war.

If Russia fcuked Turkey, NATO will protest strongly, and ask for negotiation immediately. After a few rounds of so called "diplomacy", Turkey will shake hands with all the NATO members, pretends to be protected and swallow the humiliation whatsoever. Russia will "respect" Turkey in return, and everyone will pretend nothing has happened.

In hardball diplomacy, "A thousand protests are not as good as a strategic bomber. It would be better if you took a nuclear missile."

btw if Turkey was not part of NATO , then Turkey would has its own nuclear weapons

No. Erdogan love his life more than anything else, he won't risk being hanged like Saddam.

 

[mike2000 is back]

Erdogan's son Berat Albayrak get tons of money from the dirty business.

Putin: Turkey shot down jet to protect ISIL oil supply
the Russian leader said there was "no doubt" oil from "terrorist-controlled" territory in Syria was making its way across the border into Turkey - a claim immediately denied by Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan.

Why isn’t the media covering Turkish President Erdogan’s ties to ISIS
Turkey’s assistance to ISIS starts right at the top. In 2016, Wikileaks published an archive of 58,000 emails documenting the involvement of Erdogan’s son-in-law, Berat Albayrak, in helping ISIS market oil stolen from Syria and Iraq.

Actually ISIS has been at odds with FSA for a long time and both sides have been battling each other long ago. So ISIS and the core of FSA are different in this regard. However, most people seem to forget that Russia,Assad and Iranian Shi'a proxies have mostly been focused on targeting FSA groups, since the FSA have been Assad's biggest threat/rival from the very beginning. ISIS is just a secondary (and even necesaary) issue for them. Funny enough, ISIS has even helped Assad in some ways by diverting attention from the opposition genuine greviances and helping Assad label any group(this includes Syrian civilians/people) who opposes his rule as terrorists , thereby putting himself as the "ONLY MAN" who can save Syria from 'Islamists groups ' taking over the country. This has helped sell Assad's narrative to the world and helped shore up support for his rule. Even western powers have fallen for this .
To be fair though, ISIS maniacs didnt help themselves by targeting western interests in syria and targeting westerners. This also helped shaped western opinion about them as well.
Anyway, this strategy is a method tyrants/dictators use to hold on to power. They will even encourage the extremist side of the opposition to rise up so they can weaken and divide the opposition and put themselves as the ONLY SAVIOUR of the country (this includes ruling forever. Lol) . Mubarak would have used this method had he been giving the chance and enough time as the country fell into civil war.

Then wth the US,The UK,France and Germany provoked Ukraine against Russia ?

Ukraine has no power to match with Russia but stupid Ukrainian Politicans believed the US,The UK,France and Germany to protect Ukraine against Russia

even in 2008 Russia-Georgia conflict was a good example not to believe treacherous US,The UK,France and Germany

Then they were naive. We have no mutual defence treaty with them, neither did we have an official alliance either. Western powers will obviously provide support and aid but not intervene directly to fight a war against Russia meanwhile they are under no obligation to do. Had they been a NATO or even had a mutual defence treaty like say Japan then the stakes and implications would have been totally different from what happened.

With thousands nukes in Russians' hands, No one will retaliate Russia in large scale war.

If Russia fcuked Turkey, NATO will protest strongly, and ask for negotiation immediately. After a few rounds of so called "diplomacy", Turkey will shake hands with all the NATO members, pretends to be protected and swallow the humiliation whatsoever. Russia will "respect" Turkey in return, and everyone will pretend nothing has happened.

In hardball diplomacy, "A thousand protests are not as good as a strategic bomber. It would be better if you took a nuclear missile

Russia wouldnt do that in the first place(which they didn't ). Moreover Turkey is also covered by NATO'S nuclear umbrella. With nukes based in Turkey itself.
You guys are naive to think Russia will risk going to war with a NATO member. As I said the stakes are too high since you never how the other side might react and benefits too low. So it's easier to target non NATO members which is a safer bet.

 

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Actually ISIS has been at odds with FSA for a long time and both sides have been battling each other long ago. So ISIS and the core of FSA are different in this regard. However, most people seem to forget that Russia,Assad and Iranian Shi'a proxies have mostly been focused on targeting FSA groups, since the FSA have been Assad's biggest threat/rival from the very beginning. ISIS is just a secondary (and even necesaary) issue for them. Funny enough, ISIS has even helped Assad in some ways by diverting attention from the opposition genuine greviances and helping Assad label any group(this includes Syrian civilians/people) who opposes his rule as terrorists , thereby putting himself as the "ONLY MAN" who can save Syria from 'Islamists groups ' taking over the country. This has helped sell Assad's narrative to the world and helped shore up support for his rule. Even western powers have fallen for this .
To be fair though, ISIS maniacs didnt help themselves by targeting western interests in syria and targeting westerners. This also helped shaped western opinion about them as well.
Anyway, this strategy is a method tyrants/dictators use to hold on to power. They will even encourage the extremist side of the opposition to rise up so they can weaken and divide the opposition and put themselves as the ONLY SAVIOUR of the country (this includes ruling forever. Lol) . Mubarak would have used this method had he been giving the chance and enough time as the country fell into civil war.


Then they were naive. We have no mutual defence treaty with them, neither did we have an official alliance either. Western powers will obviously provide support and aid but not intervene directly to fight a war against Russia meanwhile they are under no obligation to do. Had they been a NATO or even had a mutual defence treaty like say Japan then the stakes and implications would have been totally different from what happened.


Russia wouldnt do that in the first place(which they didn't ). Moreover Turkey is also covered by NATO'S nuclear umbrella. With nukes based in Turkey itself.
You guys are naive to think Russia will risk going to war with a NATO member. As I said the stakes are too high since you never how the other side might react and benefits too low. So it's easier to target non NATO members which is a safer bet.

Well put. ISIS did helped Assad in reality, and ISIS is funded by many outsiders including Israel, US and Turkey. They didn't expect ISIS so stupid and totally out of control. It's such a dirty business, no one is innocent like a baby.

Turkey/Erdogan misjudged everything and lost an arm and leg. Erdogan is risking everything to survive in the political struggle and next election. If he grab the land from Syria successfully, he may have a chance to keep his president. If he fail, he will be put into jail or exile.

Turkey Lira devalued from 1.4/USD to 5.7/USD.

Turkey economy is sinking, GDP is shrinking.

Core inflation is high

 

[gangsta_rap]

They'll end up in a yemen scenario and it will be 10x worse

LONG LIVE INTERNATIONALISM!!!!

 

[BordoEnes]

Only God can help poor Syrians from upcoming genocide in north east Syria

Calm down drama queen. No genocide in any way or form will happen. I wouldnt think an Iranian out of all people would fall for this western propaganda narrative. No Turk would ever condone such an action. We go there, clean up YPG militants and resettle refugees. That simple.

 

[Nein]

Funny how you have Russian and Chinese posters defending ypg terrorists.

Either way the Turkish army is going to send your beloved ypg women fighters to hell.

If you love them so much be our guest and join them. More bullets for the TSK to put holes into.